I got kidnapped by Time Warner :-----(((
 

MegaZone wrote:
"zalek" shaped the electrons to say:
And I think there should be a law that protect citizens from a monopoly
- I cannot choose other service.

They have the right not to authorize some random box on their
network. A box that could be hacked in any one of any ways to allow
access to content, disable copy protection, etc.

And if you only paid $30 for the box - it was hot. They cost a lot
more than that new, wholesale.

-MZ
--
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"A little nonsense now and then, is relished by the wisest men" 508-852-2171
URL:http://www.megazone.org/ URL:http://www.eyrie-productions.com/ Eris

After rethinking - I think you are right. We have the best government
money can buy. Companies have the right to milk American citizens as
long as they help our politicians. Citizens have no right to buy used
cheaper equipment - it hurts company's profit.
Please - do not write letter to your representatives - it is our
patriotic duty as Americans to be milked by corporations

Zalek

I got kidnapped by Time Warner :-----(((
 

Seth wrote:
"Zalek Bloom" wrote in message
...
. Please pass a law that allows consumers to
purchase equipment from someone other than a company that has a
monopoly on a service. I plan to start a campaign on the internet
about this problem and I will publish your response - or lack of - on
the internet.

A law has been passed by the FCC. It's called CableCard. Buy a TV or other
TV reception device that has a CableCard slot and the cable company is
required to rent you a card to provide authorization of scrambled signals.

In regards to the box you bought "on the street", do you even know if it is
compatible? Just because the outside is the same doesn't mean some internal
parts are different. Like the authorization daughter board may be
registered to a different cable box. I know at work (I'm in the IT field) I
can't authorize an RSA token on my system where the license number belongs
to someone else.

Your campaign will go nowhere if you don't do some research first.

Seth,

Thanks for your answer - I will try to find this law and to see if it
apply to my case.
The box IS COMAPTABLE - I bought it from a person that was using the
same cable company in the same city as me - Time Warner in NYC. I have
exectly the same box for my TV - Scientific Atlanta - Explorer 2100.
Cable company recognized this box - the box was displaying a message to
call operator because the service was cancelled - other box worked OK.

Thanks again,

Zalek

I got kidnapped by Time Warner :-----(((
 

Sam Spade wrote:
zalek wrote:
David Moran wrote:

"Zalek Bloom" wrote in message
. ..

I wanted to add new cable box for my cable TV - Time Warner wants
$10/month for a box. I bought a cable box on the street the same one I
have - for $30. After connecting to a cable it says "call operator" -
so I called.
They told me that they will not support this box - I have to buy a box
from them for a price of $10/month. The building I am living does not
allow satellite dishes - so I am stuck. Here is the fax I am sending
to my representative - if you are stuck with cable as me, please to
the same:

To representative?

I am a Time Warner Cable subscriber. I want to add cable service for
a new television that I just purchased. Time Warner Cable wants me to
pay $10 per month for another box. I just bought the same box that
Time Warner uses for $30. Time Warner refuses to recognize this box
even though it is in perfect condition.
I live in New York City and there is no competition for Time
Warner. I live in a building where management does not allow us to
have a Satelite Dish. Please pass a law that allows consumers to
purchase equipment from someone other than a company that has a
monopoly on a service. I plan to start a campaign on the internet
about this problem and I will publish your response - or lack of - on
the internet.

An Angry Citizen

I sent it to:

Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton
New York City
780 Third Ave, Suite 2601
New York, NY 10017
Phone: (212) 688-6262
Fax: (212) 688-7444

Senator Charles E. "Chuck" Schumer
New York City
757 Third Avenue, Suite 17-02
New York, NY 10017
Phone: 212-486-4430
Fax: 212-486-7693

Representative Gary L. Ackerman (D - 05)
Phone: 202-225-2601 fax: 202-225-1589
http://www.house.gov/ackerman/pages/contact.html
District Office:
218-14 Northern Boulevard
Bayside, NY 11361-3580
Voice: 718-423-2154 FAX: 718-423-5053


Representative Anthony Weiner (D - 09)
Phone: 202-225-6616 fax: 202-226-7253
Email:









I'd think a cable company can choose whether or not to authorize a box. If
they don't allow outside boxes, then you're forced to pay them for one.
Plain and simple.

Dave


And I think there should be a law that protect citizens from a monopoly
- I cannot choose other service.

Zalek

I think your building is in violation of FCC rules, which allow a
satellite dish so long as it is mounted within the rules.

Unfortunately - it is not. I checked the law - the law specifies that
coops have right not to allow installation dishes on common property
like roof. I will try to organize tenant rebellion - even majority of
apartments are rental.

Zalek

I got kidnapped by Time Warner :-----(((
 

G-squared wrote:
Dave Clary wrote:
On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 03:13:44 GMT, Zalek Bloom

wrote:

I live in New York City and there is no competition for Time
Warner. I live in a building where management does not allow us to
have a Satelite Dish. Please pass a law that allows consumers to
purchase equipment from someone other than a company that has a
monopoly on a service.

If you have a balcony or a porch where you can set up a satellite
dish, there is a law that says you can do so (providing it's less
than
39 inches in diameter IIRC).

Yup, and it also covers OTA antennas as well. The Winegard
SquareShooter is a good candidate.

Read the FCC rules here.

http://www.fcc.gov/mb/facts/otard.html

GG

I am not a lawyer, but it says:
"The rule does not apply to common areas that are owned by a landlord,
a community association, or jointly by condominium or cooperative
owners where the antenna user does not have an exclusive use area. Such
common areas may include the roof or exterior wall of a multiple
dwelling unit. Therefore, restrictions on antennas installed in or on
such common areas are enforceable".
And I don't have balcony :-----------------(((

Zalek

I got kidnapped by Time Warner :-----(((
 

Travis M. wrote:
"Zalek Bloom" wrote in message

I wanted to add new cable box for my cable TV - Time Warner wants
$10/month for a box. I bought a cable box on the street the same
one I have - for $30. After connecting to a cable it says "call
operator" - so I called.
They told me that they will not support this box - I have to buy a
box from them for a price of $10/month. The building I am living
does not allow satellite dishes - so I am stuck. Here is the fax I
am sending to my representative - if you are stuck with cable as
me, please to the same:

snip

Comcast only charges $5.10 a month for an extra box and remote.

--


Travis in Shoreline Washington

No rescue for me - I checked comcast site - after entering my info I
got:

"We are unable to find a match in our system for the address and/or ZIP
Code you entered. Go to www.thisiscable.com or call 866-49Cable to
reach the cable company serving your area!"
I called the number and was told that Time Warner can supply me cable
services
:-----------------------(((

Zalek

I got kidnapped by Time Warner :-----(((
 

zalek wrote:
Seth wrote:
"Zalek Bloom" wrote in message
...
. Please pass a law that allows consumers to
purchase equipment from someone other than a company that has a
monopoly on a service. I plan to start a campaign on the internet
about this problem and I will publish your response - or lack of - on
the internet.
A law has been passed by the FCC. It's called CableCard. Buy a TV or other
TV reception device that has a CableCard slot and the cable company is
required to rent you a card to provide authorization of scrambled signals.

In regards to the box you bought "on the street", do you even know if it is
compatible? Just because the outside is the same doesn't mean some internal
parts are different. Like the authorization daughter board may be
registered to a different cable box. I know at work (I'm in the IT field) I
can't authorize an RSA token on my system where the license number belongs
to someone else.

Your campaign will go nowhere if you don't do some research first.

Seth,

Thanks for your answer - I will try to find this law and to see if it
apply to my case.
The box IS COMAPTABLE - I bought it from a person that was using the
same cable company in the same city as me - Time Warner in NYC. I have
exectly the same box for my TV - Scientific Atlanta - Explorer 2100.
Cable company recognized this box - the box was displaying a message to
call operator because the service was cancelled - other box worked OK.

Thanks again,

Zalek


This give a little bit clearer picture of what's happening. Sounds like
the person you bought it from was a TW customer who was renting this
box, but canceled his service, correct? Then he sold the box to you,
correct?

Well, what he did is sold you something that didn't belong to him. His
service was canceled. The box is the property of TW. Maybe THAT is why
they refuse to activate it for you. It isn't yours! If that is the
case, and you leave the sucker plugged in, you'll be lucky if they don't
hunt it down on the network, find out the serial # is for one that never
got returned and you get a knock on your door from one of NY's finest
(in about 3 months or so based on my experience with response times)
asking you to accompany them to the precinct house.

I got kidnapped by Time Warner :-----(((
 

Ed wrote:
zalek wrote:
Seth wrote:
"Zalek Bloom" wrote in message
...
. Please pass a law that allows consumers to
purchase equipment from someone other than a company that has a
monopoly on a service. I plan to start a campaign on the internet
about this problem and I will publish your response - or lack of - on
the internet.
A law has been passed by the FCC. It's called CableCard. Buy a TV or other
TV reception device that has a CableCard slot and the cable company is
required to rent you a card to provide authorization of scrambled signals.

In regards to the box you bought "on the street", do you even know if it is
compatible? Just because the outside is the same doesn't mean some internal
parts are different. Like the authorization daughter board may be
registered to a different cable box. I know at work (I'm in the IT field) I
can't authorize an RSA token on my system where the license number belongs
to someone else.

Your campaign will go nowhere if you don't do some research first.

Seth,

Thanks for your answer - I will try to find this law and to see if it
apply to my case.
The box IS COMAPTABLE - I bought it from a person that was using the
same cable company in the same city as me - Time Warner in NYC. I have
exectly the same box for my TV - Scientific Atlanta - Explorer 2100.
Cable company recognized this box - the box was displaying a message to
call operator because the service was cancelled - other box worked OK.

Thanks again,

Zalek


This give a little bit clearer picture of what's happening. Sounds like
the person you bought it from was a TW customer who was renting this
box, but canceled his service, correct? Then he sold the box to you,
correct?

Well, what he did is sold you something that didn't belong to him. His
service was canceled. The box is the property of TW. Maybe THAT is why
they refuse to activate it for you. It isn't yours! If that is the
case, and you leave the sucker plugged in, you'll be lucky if they don't
hunt it down on the network, find out the serial # is for one that never
got returned and you get a knock on your door from one of NY's finest
(in about 3 months or so based on my experience with response times)
asking you to accompany them to the precinct house.

I don't think this is the case - TW HAVE MY INFO and HAVE BOX NUMBER.
If the box is stolen - TW can inform NY Fattest. I LEGALY purchased
this box on ebay.
This can be other case - someone cancelled service, keept the box and
paid penalty for not returning the box. After paying penalty - he sold
the box.

Zalek

I got kidnapped by Time Warner :-----(((
 

"Zalek Bloom" wrote in message
...
I wanted to add new cable box for my cable TV - Time Warner wants
$10/month for a box. I bought a cable box on the street the same one I
have - for $30. After connecting to a cable it says "call operator" -
so I called.
They told me that they will not support this box - I have to buy a box
from them for a price of $10/month. The building I am living does not
allow satellite dishes - so I am stuck. Here is the fax I am sending
to my representative - if you are stuck with cable as me, please to
the same:

To representative?

I am a Time Warner Cable subscriber. I want to add cable service for
a new television that I just purchased. Time Warner Cable wants me to
pay $10 per month for another box. I just bought the same box that
Time Warner uses for $30. Time Warner refuses to recognize this box
even though it is in perfect condition.
I live in New York City and there is no competition for Time
Warner. I live in a building where management does not allow us to
have a Satelite Dish. Please pass a law that allows consumers to
purchase equipment from someone other than a company that has a
monopoly on a service. I plan to start a campaign on the internet
about this problem and I will publish your response - or lack of - on
the internet.

An Angry Citizen

I sent it to:

Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton
New York City
780 Third Ave, Suite 2601
New York, NY 10017
Phone: (212) 688-6262
Fax: (212) 688-7444

Senator Charles E. "Chuck" Schumer
New York City
757 Third Avenue, Suite 17-02
New York, NY 10017
Phone: 212-486-4430
Fax: 212-486-7693

Representative Gary L. Ackerman (D - 05)
Phone: 202-225-2601 fax: 202-225-1589
http://www.house.gov/ackerman/pages/contact.html
District Office:
218-14 Northern Boulevard
Bayside, NY 11361-3580
Voice: 718-423-2154 FAX: 718-423-5053


Representative Anthony Weiner (D - 09)
Phone: 202-225-6616 fax: 202-226-7253
Email:

You might try the following contacts for any issues or concerns you have:
Federal Communications Commission
Cable Services Bureau
Office of Government and Public Outreach, Room 250
2033 M Street, N.W., Washington, D.C., 20554
1-202-418-0200

Customer Service Representative
New York State Public Service Commission
3 Empire State Plaza
Albany, New York 12223-1350
1-800-342-3330

I got kidnapped by Time Warner :-----(((
 

"zalek" wrote in message
ps.com...

Ed wrote:
zalek wrote:
Seth wrote:
"Zalek Bloom" wrote in message
...
. Please pass a law that allows consumers to
purchase equipment from someone other than a company that has a
monopoly on a service. I plan to start a campaign on the internet
about this problem and I will publish your response - or lack of - on
the internet.
A law has been passed by the FCC. It's called CableCard. Buy a TV or
other
TV reception device that has a CableCard slot and the cable company is
required to rent you a card to provide authorization of scrambled
signals.

In regards to the box you bought "on the street", do you even know if
it is
compatible? Just because the outside is the same doesn't mean some
internal
parts are different. Like the authorization daughter board may be
registered to a different cable box. I know at work (I'm in the IT
field) I
can't authorize an RSA token on my system where the license number
belongs
to someone else.

Your campaign will go nowhere if you don't do some research first.

Seth,

Thanks for your answer - I will try to find this law and to see if it
apply to my case.
The box IS COMAPTABLE - I bought it from a person that was using the
same cable company in the same city as me - Time Warner in NYC. I have
exectly the same box for my TV - Scientific Atlanta - Explorer 2100.
Cable company recognized this box - the box was displaying a message to
call operator because the service was cancelled - other box worked OK.

Thanks again,

Zalek


This give a little bit clearer picture of what's happening. Sounds like
the person you bought it from was a TW customer who was renting this
box, but canceled his service, correct? Then he sold the box to you,
correct?

Well, what he did is sold you something that didn't belong to him. His
service was canceled. The box is the property of TW. Maybe THAT is why
they refuse to activate it for you. It isn't yours! If that is the
case, and you leave the sucker plugged in, you'll be lucky if they don't
hunt it down on the network, find out the serial # is for one that never
got returned and you get a knock on your door from one of NY's finest
(in about 3 months or so based on my experience with response times)
asking you to accompany them to the precinct house.

I don't think this is the case - TW HAVE MY INFO and HAVE BOX NUMBER.
If the box is stolen - TW can inform NY Fattest. I LEGALY purchased
this box on ebay.
This can be other case - someone cancelled service, keept the box and
paid penalty for not returning the box. After paying penalty - he sold
the box.

Zalek


So what? It still belongs to the cable company. You got took when you bought
the box.

Dave

I got kidnapped by Time Warner :-----(((
 

TW does not sell boxes.

TW does not authorize non-leased boxes or cable cards.

If TW authorized non-leased boxes that are used or stolen leased boxes or
boxes that were taken from TW and not returned it would create a huge market
for stolen TW owned boxes.

The FCC has passed a confussing regulation that requires the cable companies
to get out of the business of leasing boxes. There is a huge fight going on
between the electronics industry and the cable industry over this issue.
Just look how long it is taking to get two way cable cards out into the
field.

The cable industry is working on a pure software solution to copyright
control such that your purchased box or recorder or digital TV will contain
the cable tuner and the cable company will control access through software.
This is not a mature solution.

In my opinion the FCC should have forced a solution to this issue at the
same time it authorized digital TV.

In Japan both digital cable and satalite TV are fully integrated into their
sets, the US is much more into letting market forces control these
decisions.

I own a Motorola receiver with a digital TV tuner built in that TW will not
authorize for use on its system. I feel your fustration. I guess this is why
I was able to pick up this receiver with an 80% discount.

Richard.