Freeview and 3am
 

My TV (which has a built-in Freeview tuner) switches half-on for a
couple of minutes at about 3am. By "half-on", I mean it's on standby,
it clicks, the green LED comes on, but the screen stays off, then it
clicks again a couple of minutes later and goes back to sleep, like I
should be at that time in the morning.

Not a problem at all, but it's got me curious. Is it picking up the
guide information? Or is that streamed along with the rest of the MUX
data, on the fly?

I've noticed that the TV's guide is up-to-date all the time, while the
PVR's guide can take a few minutes to get completely updated, and was
wondering if this was a connected issue.
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Freeview and 3am
 

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My TV (which has a built-in Freeview tuner) switches half-on for a
couple of minutes at about 3am. By "half-on", I mean it's on standby,
it clicks, the green LED comes on, but the screen stays off, then it
clicks again a couple of minutes later and goes back to sleep, like I
should be at that time in the morning.

Not a problem at all, but it's got me curious. Is it picking up the
guide information? Or is that streamed along with the rest of the MUX
data, on the fly?

I've noticed that the TV's guide is up-to-date all the time, while the
PVR's guide can take a few minutes to get completely updated, and was
wondering if this was a connected issue.


Some freeview boxes/TVs use a guide from 4TV which is updated at that
time.

Steve.

Freeview and 3am
 

Stephen Henson wrote:

Some freeview boxes/TVs use a guide from 4TV which is updated at that
time.

Indeed, and my Sony DVR/PVR comes 'half-on' every morning for a couple of
hours, presumably to cache EPG data.

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Freeview and 3am
 

Stephen Henson wrote:


Some freeview boxes/TVs use a guide from 4TV which is updated at that
time.


Yep, that what it sounds like, my thomson gets updated at 3am as well.

Freeview and 3am
 

John Hatpin wrote:
My TV (which has a built-in Freeview tuner) switches half-on for a
couple of minutes at about 3am. By "half-on", I mean it's on standby,
it clicks, the green LED comes on, but the screen stays off, then it
clicks again a couple of minutes later and goes back to sleep, like I
should be at that time in the morning.

Not a problem at all, but it's got me curious. Is it picking up the
guide information? Or is that streamed along with the rest of the MUX
data, on the fly?

I've noticed that the TV's guide is up-to-date all the time, while the
PVR's guide can take a few minutes to get completely updated, and was
wondering if this was a connected issue.


Its doing what a good/responsible DTT product should do, and checking
for channel changes and OADs when the user isn't watching and for just a
few minutes rather than being in full power mode all the time using high
'standby power' damaging the environment etc. It should also update the
receiver without bothering you, unless you have changed the default
setting to tell it not to.

It may also be updating the 4TV guide, but most products use the
standard 7 day DVB guide these days (you don't get advertising pushed at
you) and is sent out continuosly.

--
Tony

Freeview and 3am
 

Tony wrote:
It may also be updating the 4TV guide, but most products use the
standard 7 day DVB guide these days (you don't get advertising pushed
at you) and is sent out continuosly.

There is no advertising on the 4TV guide. Where did you get that idea from?

Freeview and 3am
 

Mark Carver wrote:

Indeed, and my Sony DVR/PVR comes 'half-on' every morning for a couple
of hours, presumably to cache EPG data.

Some boxes wake up to check if there's any software update available
too. The Setpal units do that at 3am (IIRC).

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Andy

Freeview and 3am
 

Pyriform wrote:
Tony wrote:
It may also be updating the 4TV guide, but most products use the
standard 7 day DVB guide these days (you don't get advertising pushed
at you) and is sent out continuosly.

There is no advertising on the 4TV guide. Where did you get that idea from?


Setpal had it, maybe the business model has changed now. How do 4TV get
revenue then? or is it now a service provided with the product licence
and the set manufacturer pays for it? Seems odd when the standard 7 day
one is paid for by the licence and or general TV advertising.

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Tony

Freeview and 3am
 

Tony wrote:
Pyriform wrote:
Tony wrote:
It may also be updating the 4TV guide, but most products use the
standard 7 day DVB guide these days (you don't get advertising
pushed at you) and is sent out continuosly.

There is no advertising on the 4TV guide. Where did you get that
idea from?
Setpal had it, maybe the business model has changed now. How do 4TV
get revenue then? or is it now a service provided with the product
licence and the set manufacturer pays for it?

4TV (now owned by Thomson) provide a broadcasting infrastructure and EPG
data, for which I presume they get paid by the equipment manufacturers.
AIUI, advert delivery was something cooked up by Setpal / Novapal (now
defunct) and Daewoo in an attempt to derive revenue from the EPG (perhaps to
defray those costs?). It has never afflicted any of the other boxes, but who
knows what might happen in the future?

Freeview and 3am
 

Pyriform wrote:
4TV (now owned by Thomson)

Thank heavens for that!

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Adrian C