Plans for Sky's unused spectrum at 28.2 East?
 

wrote:
Mark Carver wrote:
But Sky have made 28.2 their 'de facto' orbital position. Apart from a
few Czech channels on Eurobird, everything else is UK 'Sky Platform'.

I would be interested in czeh channels. But I cannot find a single one
on 28.2 east?

They were on Eurobird (11.222 GHz- 11.428 GHz) but they seem to have moved
on according to the latest lists ?

http://www.lyngsat.com/28east.html


--
Mark
Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply.

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JF wrote:
Bill Wright writes:
"JF" wrote:
Copyright residual distribution rights have always been sold on
language/territory.

"Have always" is no reason for "Should always"

It's taken over a century to get worldwide agreement on a copyright
convention. Of course, muddle-headed Blair thinking that because some
isn't broken is a spiffing, trebles-all-round reason to fix it.

Labour, Conservative and Liberal Democrats have all modified chunks
of copyright law recently, particularly around digital distribution.
It would be good if they did some rewriting for the benefit of the
people, instead of at the request of the Big Producers. Maybe it is
coming and it's why we've the ugly sight of Cliff Richard begging for
copyright term extension.

The Berne will be around long after everyone on this planet is dust. We
might as well get used to.

What article of the Berne Convention forbids licensing being linked to
audience size, or the outlawing of licensing by geographic boundary
in the current TV way?

As the disgraceful discrepency of fair use shows, the Berne Union is
not very unified and much is possible as long as the basic system of
copyright remains. Geographic licensing is not a basic idea AFAICS.

Regards,
--
MJR/slef

Plans for Sky's unused spectrum at 28.2 East?
 

Paul Martin
Can you tell me that NewsCorp is not operating a cartel with its
subsidiaries in being in exclusive control of the EPG, the receivers,
the subscription system and the encryption system? Unfortunately,
NewsCorp is a king maker, so nobody wants to upset them.

Meanwhile, viewers are told that they have no standing to make a
complaint about this situation because their business is not
suffering as a direct consequence, and Ofcom colludes with BSkyB
by deleting all FTA satellite receivers from the 'digital
household' viewing statistics.

BSkyB.gov.uk will appear shortly.

--
MJR/slef

Plans for Sky's unused spectrum at 28.2 East?
 

On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 07:51:18 +0000, Mark Carver
wrote:

wrote:
Mark Carver wrote:
But Sky have made 28.2 their 'de facto' orbital position. Apart from a
few Czech channels on Eurobird, everything else is UK 'Sky Platform'.

I would be interested in czeh channels. But I cannot find a single one
on 28.2 east?

They were on Eurobird (11.222 GHz- 11.428 GHz) but they seem to have moved
on according to the latest lists ?

http://www.lyngsat.com/28east.html

CT1 and CT2 have gone to Astra 19deg (10921 MHz), joining 24cz and
Ocko (10832 MHz). Unlike the last two they now appear to be encrypted
24h/day along with CT24.

Plans for Sky's unused spectrum at 28.2 East?
 

tony sayer wrote:

Its about time there was a free to air service to the UK that could
carry TV without the dictates of the Sky box;)

There is. BBC, ITV, CNN, Film 4, Al-Jazeera, assorted entertainment
and film channels. And that's only from 28E. See Lyngsat.
--

rgds
LAurence

....This Tagline is Death-Trapped. Stay Away.
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On Tue, 28 Nov 2006 09:39:54 -0000, David wrote:


"Mark Carver" wrote in message
oups.com...
.

But Sky have made 28.2 their 'de facto' orbital position. Apart from a
few Czech channels on Eurobird, everything else is UK 'Sky Platform'.


Not sure about that.
The other day whilst channel and satellite hopping I noticed Sky News on
at
least one other satellite and lots of other Sky stations to another
Europeon
country.


That's Italian version of sky which is in the clear for the moment but who
knows how long that will last?

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Jerry wrote:
"Mark Carver" wrote in message
...
snip

Any decisions about moving satellites around etc come from the satellite
owners, Astra and EuroBird, although of course BSkyB have considerable
'clout' with those companies.


Err, I would put it the other way around, Astral and EuroBird have
considerable clout with BSkyB, although BSkyB will be a valued
customer there are and always will be other customers who could fill
BSkyB's shoes.

News International has the capacity to launch its own sat, if it chose
to.......

£250 million is small change...............

Gaz

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"JF" wrote in message
...
snip your insults

I'm sorry that you have so
little confidence in the strength of your argument that you feel
impelled to create a smokescreen of silly epithets.

Stop talking about yourself you.

Now, perhaps you would like to tell us all how we can subscribe to
(for example) one of the Discovery channels in the UK without having
first to subscribe to Sky and one of it's 'packages'?...

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"JF" wrote in message
...

Sorry -- can't stop. The muddled thinking that pervades this newsgroup
like November mist on a Sussex down dictates that commercial reality is
too hideous a spectre to accept, and that that messengers shall be shot
at.

May we please have those pearls of wisdom translated into English?

JohnT

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JF wrote:

Getting over-wrought about bits of hardware that fetch only a few quid
at auction is hardly a political issue, not is it ever likely to be
especially as no law is being broken. If there's an 'issue' involved,
then it's a commercial one.

It is. There is EU regulation that satellite broadcasts should be in
DVB, and decodable through CI slots, so people can select their own
equipment and, using a single box, can watch different sources.

Yes, these things have become cheap. But having two boxes where one
would suffice is just as big a waste as throwing one out. Think money,
think environment, think electricity use (better throw the other one out).

It can be seen that media companies want to control every aspect of the
chain. Sony wants you to play their games on their playstation. Make a
product to either play the game on the computer, or use the playstation
to run other software, and get sued. WTF? I bought the stuff (well I
didn't, but...) ad I should be allowed to do with it whatever I like.

Although a company has little statutory obligations towards its
customers, only to its shareholders, as a user I see nothing wrong in
BSkyB and associated companies from maintaining rigorous control. It's a
sensible safeguard that promotes shareholder and fund manager confidence
-- just BMW maintain control over their hardware.

You can take a BMW to any dealer. Which is in the best interest of
consumers or BMW could obsolete your car and force you to buy a new one
the moment they think their old model is a disgrace to be on the road.
And the buyer would pay for that decision.

Compared with the
dog's breakfast of Freeview, BSkyB's EPG system works as sweet as a nut
-- even for those who don't pay BSkyB a penny.

Could be. But how is their DVR? As good as what is abvailable in the
open market? Burn recordings to DVD? Things that media companies don't
want (hey, you must BUY the DVDs), but consumers do.


Thomas