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Mike Gasson November 18th 06 05:01 PM

Sky+ & TV link
 
My wife & I have the following setup. She has a Sky+ in the lounge and I
have a Sky+ in my study as a 'Multiroom' box on my wife's Sky+
subscription. We also have a portable TV in the kitchen, one in bedroom
1 and another portable in bedroom 2.
I believe the TV Link device will allow us to view Sky on the 3
portables but I don't know how this will work with our 2 separate Sky+
boxes. In other words, as we each have our own box, by definition we
would want to view our own choice of programs on the 3 portables. I
assume I would need a TV Link for each portable? We could make do with
just using 2 portables I suppose.
I would be obliged if someone could walk me through the appropriate
setup, snags etc.
Thanks.
--
Mike Gasson
(from the Isle of Purbeck)

Jono November 18th 06 07:36 PM

Sky+ & TV link
 
on 18/11/2006, Mike Gasson supposed :
My wife & I have the following setup. She has a Sky+ in the lounge and I have
a Sky+ in my study as a 'Multiroom' box on my wife's Sky+ subscription. We
also have a portable TV in the kitchen, one in bedroom 1 and another
portable in bedroom 2.
I believe the TV Link device will allow us to view Sky on the 3 portables but
I don't know how this will work with our 2 separate Sky+ boxes. In other
words, as we each have our own box, by definition we would want to view our
own choice of programs on the 3 portables. I assume I would need a TV Link
for each portable? We could make do with just using 2 portables I suppose.
I would be obliged if someone could walk me through the appropriate setup,
snags etc.
Thanks.


You could have two TV links in each room, each separately controlling
its respective box....however, you'd have to cover one up, each time
you want to control the other box - you can't change the IR channel on
either the box or the handset.

In contrast, if you had a normal box & one sky+ everything would be
fine as they're on different frequencies.



Mike Gasson November 18th 06 08:14 PM

Sky+ & TV link
 
In message . co.uk.com,
Jono writes
on 18/11/2006, Mike Gasson supposed :
My wife & I have the following setup. She has a Sky+ in the lounge
and I have a Sky+ in my study as a 'Multiroom' box on my wife's Sky+
subscription. We also have a portable TV in the kitchen, one in
bedroom 1 and another portable in bedroom 2.
I believe the TV Link device will allow us to view Sky on the 3
portables but I don't know how this will work with our 2 separate
Sky+ boxes. In other words, as we each have our own box, by
definition we would want to view our own choice of programs on the 3
portables. I assume I would need a TV Link for each portable? We
could make do with just using 2 portables I suppose.
I would be obliged if someone could walk me through the appropriate
setup, snags etc.
Thanks.


You could have two TV links in each room, each separately controlling
its respective box....however, you'd have to cover one up, each time
you want to control the other box - you can't change the IR channel on
either the box or the handset.

We don't want to control each others box, just our own so I assume one
TV link per room (both boxes are off the same phone line)?
Is each TV link matched to each box by the IR channel or is it cabled
into the box?
THanks.

In contrast, if you had a normal box & one sky+ everything would be
fine as they're on different frequencies.

We do actually, but as I said, we want control of our own box (Sky+).. I
know my place!
Thanks

--
Mike Gasson
(from the Isle of Purbeck)

Jono November 19th 06 07:22 PM

Sky+ & TV link
 
Mike Gasson used his keyboard to write :

She has a Sky+ in the lounge and I
have a Sky+ in my study as a 'Multiroom' box on my wife's Sky+
subscription. We also have a portable TV in the kitchen, one in bedroom 1
and another portable in bedroom 2.
I believe the TV Link device will allow us to view Sky on the 3 portables
but I don't know how this will work with our 2 separate Sky+ boxes. In
other words, as we each have our own box, by definition we would want to
view our own choice of programs on the 3 portables. I assume I would need
a TV Link for each portable? We could make do with just using 2 portables
I suppose.
I would be obliged if someone could walk me through the appropriate setup,
snags etc.
Thanks.


You could have two TV links in each room, each separately controlling its
respective box....however, you'd have to cover one up, each time you want
to control the other box - you can't change the IR channel on either the
box or the handset.

We don't want to control each others box, just our own so I assume one TV
link per room (both boxes are off the same phone line)?


I know. However, you both want to control your own boxes at each TV.

Therefore, you will need 2 TV links by each TV. (which is why I said
you'd have to cover one up)

Is each TV link matched to each box by the IR channel or is it cabled into
the box?


Each link is cabled to the box, using the RF2 socket on the back of
each box and would ALL use the same IR channel.



Jomtien November 20th 06 08:29 AM

Sky+ & TV link
 
Jono wrote:

you will need 2 TV links by each TV.


Only if he has two RF cables at each TV, each going to one Sky+. This
is most unlikely. He is surely just daisy-chaining the signal.

--
Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these.
The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/8vef5
UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
BBC/ITV reception trouble? ; http://www.astra2d.com/
----
Only the truth as I see it.
No monies return'd. ;-)

Jono November 20th 06 07:34 PM

Sky+ & TV link
 
Jomtien presented the following explanation :
Jono wrote:

you will need 2 TV links by each TV.


Only if he has two RF cables at each TV, each going to one Sky+. This
is most unlikely. He is surely just daisy-chaining the signal.


That is what I intended to suggest when I said that each Link is cabled
to the box.

He states that he wants to control either box from each TV - hence the
requirement of two TV links.

I suppose he could use a video sender for one of the boxes & TV links
for the other, although it still won't negate the need to cover one up,
when not in use.



Mike Gasson November 20th 06 11:38 PM

Sky+ & TV link
 
In message . co.uk.com,
Jono writes
Jomtien presented the following explanation :
Jono wrote:

you will need 2 TV links by each TV.


Only if he has two RF cables at each TV, each going to one Sky+. This
is most unlikely. He is surely just daisy-chaining the signal.


That is what I intended to suggest when I said that each Link is cabled
to the box.

He states that he wants to control either box from each TV - hence


the requirement of two TV links.

No! This is what I said
"We don't want to control each others box, just our own so I assume one
TV link per room (both boxes are off the same phone line)?"

I suppose he could use a video sender for one of the boxes & TV links
for the other, although it still won't negate the need to cover one up,
when not in use.

I didn't want to fit extra cabling so I would possibly take the video
sender route, but again, I'm not sure how that would work.

--
Mike Gasson
(from the Isle of Purbeck)

Jomtien November 21st 06 08:56 AM

Sky+ & TV link
 
Mike Gasson wrote:

"We don't want to control each others box, just our own so I assume one
TV link per room (both boxes are off the same phone line)?"


The problem is that you didn't explain clearly how the units are
connected, or exactly what you want to do.

Assuming that each remote location can only 'see' one Sky+, and that
they are individually cabled back to the respective Sky+, then you
just need to fit one TVLink for each TV.

--
Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these.
The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/8vef5
UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
BBC/ITV reception trouble? ; http://www.astra2d.com/
----
Only the truth as I see it.
No monies return'd. ;-)

Jomtien November 21st 06 08:56 AM

Sky+ & TV link
 
Jono wrote:

I suppose he could use a video sender for one of the boxes & TV links
for the other, although it still won't negate the need to cover one up,
when not in use.


Actually he wouldn't have to.

This : http://www.skyeye.force9.co.uk/skyeye8.htm handles the problem
very nicely.

Clever bloke that Sky-Eye chap.

--
Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these.
The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/8vef5
UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
BBC/ITV reception trouble? ; http://www.astra2d.com/
----
Only the truth as I see it.
No monies return'd. ;-)

Zero Tolerance November 21st 06 01:29 PM

Sky+ & TV link
 
On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 08:56:12 +0100, Jomtien wrote:

Clever bloke that Sky-Eye chap.


Especially if he can make a living selling units that press 'back up'
every 30 seconds, when that feature is already in the digibox
software.. :-)

--

Mike Gasson November 21st 06 03:03 PM

Sky+ & TV link
 
In message , Jomtien
writes
Mike Gasson wrote:

"We don't want to control each others box, just our own so I assume one
TV link per room (both boxes are off the same phone line)?"


The problem is that you didn't explain clearly how the units are
connected, or exactly what you want to do.

My apologies!
My wife has a Sky+ box in the sitting room and I have another Sky+ box
in my study (2 floors up), both off the same phone line. My box has a
phone extension cable run up 2 stories into the study. This is a
'multiroom' setup, I pay £10 extra to use wife's viewing package. We
want to be able (initially) to receive Sky programs on a kitchen TV from
_her_ box. We don't want the hassle of running co-ax cable, so I assumed
that a digisender unit would be needed.
I was previously talking about doing the same for another TV in my
bedroom, but controlled from _my_ Sky+ box, not my wife's. I could
probably go without this bedroom TV but I mentioned it in case an
overall setup solution could include it.
Hope that makes sense?
I'm not sure if the SkyEye multiSat converter will do all of the above,
or is it required together with a digisender? Is it a digisender itself?
All this is new to me so I am struggling here!!
Thanks for help


Assuming that each remote location can only 'see' one Sky+, and that
they are individually cabled back to the respective Sky+, then you
just need to fit one TVLink for each TV.


--
Mike Gasson
(from the Isle of Purbeck)

Jomtien November 22nd 06 08:10 AM

Sky+ & TV link
 
Mike Gasson wrote:

I'm not sure if the SkyEye multiSat converter will do all of the above,
or is it required together with a digisender? Is it a digisender itself?


The SkyEye and other TVLink-type devices require a cabled RF
connection.

If you don't want/can't have a cable connection then you must use a
wireless videosender. These require no cable and no TVLink.

You can use two of these in the same house, as long as they use
different wireless channels and as long as they are well-made.

--
Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these.
The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/8vef5
UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
BBC/ITV reception trouble? ; http://www.astra2d.com/
----
Only the truth as I see it.
No monies return'd. ;-)

Jomtien November 22nd 06 08:10 AM

Sky+ & TV link
 
Zero Tolerance wrote:

Clever bloke that Sky-Eye chap.


Especially if he can make a living selling units that press 'back up'
every 30 seconds, when that feature is already in the digibox
software.. :-)


Don't run him down. For many years his gadget was the only way of
doing this automatically. My Tivo was red-dot free for years before
the Sky firmware allowed it.

Also the red-dot remover unit is just one of many devices he makes.
Some are very clever indeed and without any equal, such as the one I
mentioned and the Tivo version.

--
Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these.
The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/8vef5
UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
BBC/ITV reception trouble? ; http://www.astra2d.com/
----
Only the truth as I see it.
No monies return'd. ;-)

Mike Gasson November 22nd 06 09:17 AM

Sky+ & TV link
 
In message , Jomtien
writes
Mike Gasson wrote:

I'm not sure if the SkyEye multiSat converter will do all of the above,
or is it required together with a digisender? Is it a digisender itself?


The SkyEye and other TVLink-type devices require a cabled RF
connection.

If you don't want/can't have a cable connection then you must use a
wireless videosender. These require no cable and no TVLink.

You can use two of these in the same house, as long as they use
different wireless channels and as long as they are well-made.

Many thanks for that Jomtein. It looks like the digisender is what I
need. Are you able to recommend a good one please?
--
Mike Gasson
(from the Isle of Purbeck)

Jomtien November 23rd 06 08:20 AM

Sky+ & TV link
 
Mike Gasson wrote:

It looks like the digisender is what I
need. Are you able to recommend a good one please?


Not from where I am.

AFAIK Argos do one that works well. Perhaps other readers have some
suggestions?

--
Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these.
The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/8vef5
UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
BBC/ITV reception trouble? ; http://www.astra2d.com/
----
Only the truth as I see it.
No monies return'd. ;-)

Mike Gasson November 23rd 06 06:39 PM

Sky+ & TV link
 
In message , Jomtien
writes
Mike Gasson wrote:

It looks like the digisender is what I
need. Are you able to recommend a good one please?


Not from where I am.

AFAIK Argos do one that works well. Perhaps other readers have some
suggestions?

I'd not thought of Argos! They have several, as you say. I can pick one
of those. Thanks again.
--
Mike Gasson
(from the Isle of Purbeck)

Zero Tolerance November 23rd 06 07:43 PM

Sky+ & TV link
 
On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 08:10:19 +0100, Jomtien wrote:

Don't run him down. For many years his gadget was the only way of
doing this automatically. My Tivo was red-dot free for years before
the Sky firmware allowed it.

Also the red-dot remover unit is just one of many devices he makes.
Some are very clever indeed and without any equal, such as the one I
mentioned and the Tivo version.


Yes, fair enough. :-)

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