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Holy Crikey November 5th 06 08:41 AM

The Best Current 60" to 62" Rear Projection HDTV
 
I'm looking at a few 60" range rear projection TVs right now and am
hoping to receive some input and opinions as to what some of you guys
think the best RPTV out there is right now.

I have considered Plasma and LCD Flat Panel Display TVs, but the good
60" ones are way out of my price range. Therefore, I've decided on
the RPTV types, such as the DLPs, RP LCD, SXRD/LCoS and etc.

The one that has impressed me the most so far is Sony's KDS-R60XBR2.
I have looked at it at a local Sony Store and I think it has the best
picture quality out of all the other 60" or slightly bigger RPTVs,
such as Samsung HL-S6188W, JVC HD61FN97, Toshiba 62MX196 and a few
others. But then, I'm not sure whether these models I saw were
properly tweaked and calibrated on the showroom floor, so that's
another story.

I have started to look into each model's features, benefits, pros &
cons, but in the meantime, I thought I'd ask in here what some of you
guys think the best 60" to 62" RPTV out there right now is. I'd
appreciate it if you could list the reasons and the inherent
advantages one particular model has over the others that led you to
believe that it's currently the best 60" to 62" RPTV out there.

Oh, and one more thing. I know that LED based DLP TV just came out
from Samsung and was wondering what you guys think of it. And if I
didn't need to get a new TV right away, are there any particularly
interesting or advanced new TV that might be coming out in the next
few months or so for which you might recommend that I hold off on my
purchase? Thanks for your time and courtesy.

Mikepier November 5th 06 02:53 PM

The Best Current 60" to 62" Rear Projection HDTV
 

For a size larger than 42" , DLP is the way to go, otherwise you will
be spending a fortune for plasma or LCD.
I just purchased the Mitsubishi 57" DLP (WD-57731) and I love it. They
also make a 65" version (WD-65731). I was looking at the Samsungs also.
I think I would have been happy with those also as they had a great
picture. Sony also makes a good RPTV. I believe its the Grand Wega
model KDF 55" and the 60". My inlaws have the 42" version and the
picture is fantastic also plus I think its priced reasonably.
cnet.com has a pretty good comparison of all HDTV's. You can compare
all TV's and their prices and features:
http://reviews.cnet.com/Televisions/...tag=cnetfd.dir


ZVR November 5th 06 03:59 PM

The Best Current 60" to 62" Rear Projection HDTV
 
Personally, I would not buy a DLP TV simply because of the problems
associated with the color wheel - the rainbow effect (although not everybody
notices that), and more importantly the mechanical failures. The LED-based
sets promise to solve these issues but the first generation of such TV's
(which are already available on the market) has its problems; it looks like
the LED-based light engine is not mature yet.

In my mind, that narrows it down to the Sony 3LCD sets (the SXRD models),
and HD-ILA models from JVC (my personal favorites) which also employ a
3-chip design so no color wheel.



Dave Gower November 5th 06 06:54 PM

The Best Current 60" to 62" Rear Projection HDTV
 

"ZVR" wrote

In my mind, that narrows it down to the Sony 3LCD sets (the SXRD models),
and HD-ILA models from JVC (my personal favorites) which also employ a
3-chip design so no color wheel.


After a year, I am very pleased with my JVC and do not hesitate to recommend
it.



Dave Clary November 5th 06 07:08 PM

The Best Current 60" to 62" Rear Projection HDTV
 
On 5 Nov 2006 05:53:25 -0800, "Mikepier"
wrote:


For a size larger than 42" , DLP is the way to go, otherwise you will
be spending a fortune for plasma or LCD.


Incorrect. You are possibly identifying the other possibility when
you refer to:

Sony also makes a good RPTV. I believe its the Grand Wega
model KDF 55" and the 60".


The Sony LCOS sets and the ones from JVC are good competition for DLP.

Dave Clary/Corpus Christi, Tx
Home: http://davidclary.com


Dave Clary November 5th 06 07:10 PM

The Best Current 60" to 62" Rear Projection HDTV
 
On Sun, 5 Nov 2006 12:54:37 -0500, "Dave Gower"
wrote:


"ZVR" wrote

In my mind, that narrows it down to the Sony 3LCD sets (the SXRD models),
and HD-ILA models from JVC (my personal favorites) which also employ a
3-chip design so no color wheel.


After a year, I am very pleased with my JVC and do not hesitate to recommend
it.

I'm picking up the hd-56FN97 tomorrow. The Navy Exchange ordered one
for me at a price of $2299 but Best Buy has them this week at $1999.
The Navy will price match that!!!

Dave Clary/Corpus Christi, Tx
Home: http://davidclary.com


Ralph Zancha November 5th 06 07:15 PM

The Best Current 60" to 62" Rear Projection HDTV
 
Sony SXRD hand down!!
"Dave Gower" wrote in message
...

"ZVR" wrote

In my mind, that narrows it down to the Sony 3LCD sets (the SXRD models),
and HD-ILA models from JVC (my personal favorites) which also employ a
3-chip design so no color wheel.


After a year, I am very pleased with my JVC and do not hesitate to
recommend it.




Marshall November 5th 06 09:37 PM

The Best Current 60" to 62" Rear Projection HDTV
 
Personally, I have two Toshiba DLP tv's, a 46" and a 56".
The 46" is terrific, no problems what-so-ever and I've had it for about 2
1/2 years and is used daily for mostly tv viewing in both regular and HDTV.
The model # is 46HM84, but obviously no longer made.

My newest is the Toshiba 56HM195 and I used is strictly for movies. I've had
this tv for about 6 months and no problems what-so-ever. Fantastic picture.
I have it hooked up to a regular dvd player by HDMI and a new BLU-RAY HD dvd
player using the HDMI cable also. The regular dvd player is a very good
picture, but the new BLU-RAY player is outstanding. Don't know if this model
is still available or not.

I bought both of the Toshibas thru Onecall.com ( www.onecall.com ) great
prices ( beats all others ) no tax, unless you live in Washington state.

Also...a friend of mine just recently got a Samsung HL-R 6768W 67" DLP, he
has it hooked up to an older dvd player just with the S-VHS cable and it
also has a fantastic picture. I think that model is discountinued though.

For my $$$$$, I'd go with Toshiba.



Deke November 6th 06 07:05 AM

The Best Current 60" to 62" Rear Projection HDTV
 
The 61" JVC HD-ILA is excellent. Your choice as to which model you choose.
The PRO series will display 1080, and are around 500 bucks higher, the less
expensive model will display 720.

Your choice.

Sony is a four letter word.



Mikepier November 6th 06 02:30 PM

The Best Current 60" to 62" Rear Projection HDTV
 

ZVR wrote:
Personally, I would not buy a DLP TV simply because of the problems
associated with the color wheel - the rainbow effect (although not everybody
notices that), and more importantly the mechanical failures


There are only 3 things major components of the DLP that can fail: the
bulb, cooling fan, and color wheel. As far as the rainbow effect of
the color wheel, Mitsubishi uses a 6 segment color wheel which reduces
the rainbow effect. Even so, the older DLP's, I couldn't really notice
the rainbow effect.
To each his own. I was just giving my opinion.


skip November 6th 06 03:12 PM

The Best Current 60" to 62" Rear Projection HDTV
 
"Mikepier" wrote in
ups.com:


ZVR wrote:
Personally, I would not buy a DLP TV simply because of the problems
associated with the color wheel - the rainbow effect (although not
everybody notices that), and more importantly the mechanical failures


There are only 3 things major components of the DLP that can fail: the
bulb, cooling fan, and color wheel. As far as the rainbow effect of
the color wheel, Mitsubishi uses a 6 segment color wheel which reduces
the rainbow effect. Even so, the older DLP's, I couldn't really notice
the rainbow effect.
To each his own. I was just giving my opinion.


They are all good But I have the HD ila set for 18 months now and would
have nothing else

Terence November 6th 06 04:32 PM

The Best Current 60" to 62" Rear Projection HDTV
 

skip wrote:

[snip]
They are all good But I have the HD ila set for 18 months now and would
have nothing else


Personal experience counts for a great deal - DLP doesn't seem to be
that popular these days in the market, but for everyone who owns a set
and haven't had any problems with them, I'm sure they're all happy with
them.

I've had mine for a little over a year and am quite satisfied with it.

Terence


Dave November 6th 06 07:10 PM

The Best Current 60" to 62" Rear Projection HDTV
 

Deke wrote:
The 61" JVC HD-ILA is excellent. Your choice as to which model you choose.
The PRO series will display 1080, and are around 500 bucks higher, the less
expensive model will display 720.


And the price keeps dropping--this weekend BB had the 56 1080 set for
$1999 and the 61 for $2299. In the case of the 56, that's a $600 drop
over three weeks!

Dave
Googlin'


[email protected] November 7th 06 06:05 AM

The Best Current 60" to 62" Rear Projection HDTV
 
I haven't really done a lot of research but just to share what I have.
I bought a HP 65" Rear Projection DLP 1080p HDTV md6580n. Believe it
or not. It really is HP! The quality is simply amazing. Last week I
finally got HD receiver and it's just unbelievable. It easily beats
out the all the Samsungs, Mitsubishis, or Toshibas in my opinion. (But
what do I know, I'm no TV guru.) The speakers are great, too! The
sound easily fills up my raised ceiling livingroom which is connected
to breakfast rooom and kitchen with crystal clear sound. It has a
great feature that all inputs are located at the front. Although I do
wish they put a couple at the back as well... Personal preference, I
suppose.

Downsides. The fan noise could become noticeable and you might find it
annoying. It is made by HP so you might want to thinking about support
issues. I'm not saying there would be issues; just something to think
about.

Check out the review he
http://reviews.cnet.com/HP_MD6580n/4...-31484737.html


Richard November 9th 06 02:28 PM

The Best Current 60" to 62" Rear Projection HDTV
 
The Sony sets are excellent, just be sure to get one built after Aug, 2006
since early ones had a minor software error and more issues with the "Green
Blob". A new line is in the works that is even narrower.

Richard.



James Egan December 30th 06 04:04 PM

The Best Current 60" to 62" Rear Projection HDTV
 
On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 09:59:48 -0500, ZVR wrote:

Personally, I would not buy a DLP TV simply because of the problems
associated with the color wheel - the rainbow effect (although not everybody
notices that), and more importantly the mechanical failures. The LED-based
sets promise to solve these issues but the first generation of such TV's
(which are already available on the market) has its problems; it looks like
the LED-based light engine is not mature yet.



The rainbow effect issue has been addressed by new color wheels,
and second generation DLP chips.

Leonard Caillouet December 30th 06 11:09 PM

The Best Current 60" to 62" Rear Projection HDTV
 

"James Egan" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 09:59:48 -0500, ZVR wrote:

Personally, I would not buy a DLP TV simply because of the problems
associated with the color wheel - the rainbow effect (although not
everybody
notices that), and more importantly the mechanical failures. The
LED-based
sets promise to solve these issues but the first generation of such TV's
(which are already available on the market) has its problems; it looks
like
the LED-based light engine is not mature yet.



The rainbow effect issue has been addressed by new color wheels,
and second generation DLP chips.


It has been improved, but not eleiminated. It was never as big a deal as
many have said, but if you are one of the people bothered by it, you are
likely to see it even on the newest sets. In the years that we have been
selling DLP based front projection and RP we have had only one client
bothered by it.

Leonard

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skip December 31st 06 01:04 AM

The Best Current 60" to 62" Rear Projection HDTV
 
"Leonard Caillouet" wrote in
:


"James Egan" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 05 Nov 2006 09:59:48 -0500, ZVR wrote:

Personally, I would not buy a DLP TV simply because of the problems
associated with the color wheel - the rainbow effect (although not
everybody
notices that), and more importantly the mechanical failures. The
LED-based
sets promise to solve these issues but the first generation of such
TV's (which are already available on the market) has its problems;
it looks like
the LED-based light engine is not mature yet.



The rainbow effect issue has been addressed by new color wheels,
and second generation DLP chips.


It has been improved, but not eleiminated. It was never as big a deal
as many have said, but if you are one of the people bothered by it,
you are likely to see it even on the newest sets. In the years that
we have been selling DLP based front projection and RP we have had
only one client bothered by it.

Leonard

I have the JVC HDILA set no problems at all and a great picture. No color
wheel no rainbows.

Leonard Caillouet December 31st 06 02:18 AM

The Best Current 60" to 62" Rear Projection HDTV
 

"skip" wrote in message
...
I have the JVC HDILA set no problems at all and a great picture. No color
wheel no rainbows.


When compared side by side to the SXRD and the best DLP sets, the best of
the JVCs are certainly competitive. The problem witht hem is that they have
varied quite a bit in performance and JVC has a much more limited service
netowrk than Sony or Mitsubishi in many areas. Where they do not have a
sufficient service network they do not provide any support to servicers who
are not ASCs for JVC. They have been arrogant and impossible to deal with
when trying to support the product in these areas and insist that customers
bring the sets to ASCs, even if they are distant. Additionally, they have
included "booby traps" in some of their sets that wipe the memory in EEPROMs
that contain data required to use the digital inputs if an unkowing servicer
or consumer opens the back of the set when it is powered. This requires
buying a new EEPROM , only available through ASCS and only at a great
expense. This kind of arrogant aproach to customer service has turned many
of us off to JVC. This is nothing new. It has been a consistent pattern
for nearly three decades.

With products that are arguably better in almost all cases, and certainly as
good, there is not much reason in most markets to choose JVC.

Leonard

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Dave Clary December 31st 06 06:23 AM

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On Sat, 30 Dec 2006 20:18:57 -0500, "Leonard Caillouet"
wrote:


With products that are arguably better in almost all cases, and certainly as
good, there is not much reason in most markets to choose JVC.


I had several hundred good reasons--and each one had a picture of
George Washington on it. :-) Your point about service is taken.
Fortunately I do have a JVC servicer in my area should I need one.

I didn't see anything about an SXRD that justified the increased cost
over my 1080P JVC--and I didn't have to worry about the Green Blob!

Dave Clary/Corpus Christi, Tx
Home: http://davidclary.com




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