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On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 07:11:47 +0000, Nigel Barker wrote:

On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 02:51:32 +0100, maethorechannen wrote:

How many people in the UK are actually affected by Five encrypting on
Satellite? As far as I can tell, the only people affected are those who
can not/will not get Five over freeview and are unwilling to get a Sky
"free to view" installation.

The so called "Free To View" installation actually costs 150 pounds which would
be quite a disincentive to many people.

Yes, but if you're going to be installing satellite equipment anyway
(which is the only reason why Five's encryption would ever affect anyone
in the UK), is it that much more expensive than a FTA installation? It's a
disincentive for a very small number of people but certainly not enough
people that it would ever really concern Five (or 4 for that matter).

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In article ,
maethorechannen wrote:
On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 04:21:28 +0100, charles wrote:

In article ,
maethorechannen wrote:

Seeing as people who live in analogue blackspots (ie, people who live
in isolated areas without any analogue coverage) have to pay a licence
fee if they own a TV simply for watching videos,

they don't need a TV Licence for simply watching videos



You do if you are using a VCR or a TV with a tuner. The use of any device
capable of receiving a televison transmission requires the licence fee
be paid (http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/informa...dex.jsp#link1). The
only way you could get around it is if you are using a monitor and
DVD/video player - even then, they you are probably going to have to show
that none of your equipment has a tuner.

No, either needs to be "installed to receive".

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maethorechannen wrote:
On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 04:21:28 +0100, charles wrote:

In article ,
maethorechannen wrote:

Seeing as people who live in analogue blackspots (ie, people who
live in isolated areas without any analogue coverage) have to pay a
licence fee if they own a TV simply for watching videos,

they don't need a TV Licence for simply watching videos



You do if you are using a VCR or a TV with a tuner. The use of any
device capable of receiving a televison transmission requires the
licence fee
be paid (http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/informa...dex.jsp#link1).
The
only way you could get around it is if you are using a monitor and
DVD/video player - even then, they you are probably going to have to
show that none of your equipment has a tuner.

You're talking ******** as usual! A quote from TVL: If you use a TV or any
other device to receive or record TV programmes (for example, a VCR, set-top
box, DVD recorder or PC with a broadcast card) - you need a TV Licence. You
are required by law to have one.

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Thus spaketh galaxyguy:
Adrian A wrote:
galaxyguy wrote:

It was never free to air, it was soft encrypted with videocrypt, as
used by Sky at the time so only sold in the UK. No card was needed
but a Videocrypt decoder was.
--
Adrian

Adrian, Thank you for your reply. Yes, you are right. I forgot because
in the past the public chose and bought their Pace Sky Analogue boxes
through shops and dealers.
So, they came with Videoguard.

Back then they weren't Sky analogue boxes, Sky hadn't taken control,
though managed to brainwash a lot of people into thinking satellite
means Sky.

The boxes back then were analogue satellite boxes, later analogue
satellite boxes with decoder, this meant you could buy any box (as we
did) you wanted and Sky had nothing to do with the purchase or the
install, you just contacted Sky if you want to subscribe to their
channels once they started up the subscription service.


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Thus spaketh Edster:
(Zero Tolerance) wrote in message

On 18 Sep 2006 08:46:26 -0700, "galaxyguy"
wrote:

European viewers can
watch many of the same US
programmes on the German RTL, Vox, etc.. French TF1 and M6 and other
commercial broadcasters who are equally "licensed" but reception is
available Europe wide.

And who broadcast in a different language.

On analogue Sky, RTL used to broadcast a lot of stuff like that in
english with german subtitles. One of the UK satelite magazines used
to carry listings for it for that very reason.

No on Sky Analogue you only got the Sky channels, please don't let Sky
continue to brainwash you, what you had was analogue satellite, those
German channels were just broadcast from the same satellite Sky used for
their services (Astra 1) therefore with your analogue satellite box not
only did you pick up Sky's channels, you picked up other broadcasters
channels too, such as RTL, SAT1, DSF, MTV, Filmnet.....


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{{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:
Thus spaketh Edster:
(Zero Tolerance) wrote in message

On 18 Sep 2006 08:46:26 -0700, "galaxyguy"
wrote:

European viewers can
watch many of the same US
programmes on the German RTL, Vox, etc.. French TF1 and M6 and
other commercial broadcasters who are equally "licensed" but
reception is available Europe wide.

And who broadcast in a different language.

On analogue Sky, RTL used to broadcast a lot of stuff like that in
english with german subtitles. One of the UK satelite magazines used
to carry listings for it for that very reason.

No on Sky Analogue you only got the Sky channels, please don't let Sky
continue to brainwash you, what you had was analogue satellite, those
German channels were just broadcast from the same satellite Sky used
for their services (Astra 1) therefore with your analogue satellite
box not only did you pick up Sky's channels, you picked up other
broadcasters channels too, such as RTL, SAT1, DSF, MTV, Filmnet.....

I'd forgotten how much I missed Filmnet and TV1000 until you mentioned
Filmnet.
--
Adrian

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Edster wrote:
"{{{{{Welcome}}}}}" wrote in
message

Thus spaketh galaxyguy:
Adrian A wrote:
galaxyguy wrote:

It was never free to air, it was soft encrypted with videocrypt, as
used by Sky at the time so only sold in the UK. No card was needed
but a Videocrypt decoder was.
--
Adrian

Adrian, Thank you for your reply. Yes, you are right. I forgot
because in the past the public chose and bought their Pace Sky
Analogue boxes through shops and dealers.
So, they came with Videoguard.

Back then they weren't Sky analogue boxes, Sky hadn't taken control,
though managed to brainwash a lot of people into thinking satellite
means Sky.

The boxes back then were analogue satellite boxes, later analogue
satellite boxes with decoder, this meant you could buy any box (as we
did) you wanted and Sky had nothing to do with the purchase or the
install, you just contacted Sky if you want to subscribe to their
channels once they started up the subscription service.

I don't have it any more, but I'm pretty sure my analogue box just
said Sky on the front, next to the hole where you stick the card? I
know you could just buy your own if you wanted to, but most people
would have just gone with whatever Sky sent them. I don't know the
date, but it was when Survivors was on UK Gold the first time around,
because that was what I wanted it for.

I never saw an analogue box with Sky on the front, when working as a channel
5 retuner I saw hundreds of recievers, the majority were Pace. I loved the
Pace ones where you could set the output channel from the remote.
--
Adrian