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Thus spaketh Zathras:
On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 09:35:15 GMT, "{{{{{Welcome}}}}}"
wrote:

VoIPCheap, VoIPStunt, SIPDiscount, VoIPBuster, Sipgate, VoIPTalk,
OrbTalk, and the many other SIP VoIP providers do not requre the use
of a PC to make and receive calls,

Are you sure? A quick glance at VoIPCheap and VoIPTalk suggests that
they require a pc indeed VoIPCheap claims to only work on Windows.
Also, part of VoIPTalk's website is broken (impressive!) and VoIPCheap
wasn't selling itself to me when I found this in their FAQs:

"If you want to enjoy uninterrupted calls to our free* destinations,
please upgrade your account by buying credit."

Skype may not be the best but I wasn't impressed by these two.


VoIPCheap, although I use VoIPStunt offer you 300 mins free calls every
week to many country landlines, to get free calls you top up with €10
(Ten Euro) on VoIP Stunt this means you get 120 days of free calls,
after 120 you don't lose your credit you can continue to use the account
but pay 1c/min instead, also within your 120 days you can use the credit
on chargeable calls.

VoIPCheap/VoIPStunt, SIPDiscount etc are some of the most popular VoIP
services and puts the rip-off cost Skype to shame.

You you can use an ATA with VoIPCheap, VoIPStunt etc, just look at the
link for where it say SIP calls, you just enter those details into your
SIP ATA, or you can if you wish use a software phone, same as the other
SIP/proper VoIP services.

With all these VoIP services you can call others on the same provider
for free, and with VoIP providers such as Sipgate who have peering
arangements you can call other users on other networks for free also.

Skype is OK for kids and for testing out VoIP, but proper SIP VoIP is
where people go once they have realised Skype is just Hype.

I'm surprised you weren't impressed with the likes of
VoIPCheap/VoIPStunt etc, look how much Skype charged to call landlines
(dearer than BT at times) and dearer than the likes of Call1899 (3p per
call), VoIPStunt gives you free calls to landlines in the UK, USA,
Canada, Australia and many other countries, the credit you do use to top
up with isn't wasted on the free calls as it can be used on chargeable
calls.

This is why I was able to dump the landline and go VoIP, and for 15
months VoIPStunt/VoIPCheap etc didn't enforce the top-up requirement, so
for £0 I had 15 months of free calls, and for £1.80ish per month I don't
think VoIPStunt is bad at all, certainly ****es all over Skype.

I use VoIP Stunt with my ATA, so don't need a PC on at all to make and
receive calls, same as the other SIP VoIP providers I listed.

Yes with VoIP Stunt etc you need to use their software to create a
username and password, but once you have done this, you no longer need
it and just use your ATA.

VoIP Talk you just create your account, if you don't want to use a
software phone, you don't download it, you just enter the details on
your ATA.

The great thing about SIP is that you can move from one provider to
another and use your same equipment and the prices are cheaper, Skype
Hype you are stuck with their proprietry system that is useless for
proper SIP VoIP.


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