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I am now running my PC through my Samsung HD telly, which is quite fun
as I'm lounging on the sofa typing this, drink in hand & reaasonaby ****ed. Now, my question is, can a PC run in widescreen without stretching? I know you can get widescreen monitors, so is there a widescreen setting on a PC or a widescreen version of Windows XP or something? Marky P. (on the Absinthe) |
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"Marky P" wrote in message ... I am now running my PC through my Samsung HD telly, which is quite fun as I'm lounging on the sofa typing this, drink in hand & reaasonaby ****ed. Now, my question is, can a PC run in widescreen without stretching? I know you can get widescreen monitors, so is there a widescreen setting on a PC or a widescreen version of Windows XP or something? Marky P. (on the Absinthe) Change the resolution on the computer. |
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Mike Henry wrote:
IIRC Marky's TV is a plasma, not a LCD, and it's 1024 x 768 (16:0) which means it has non-square pixels. If he were to pick a "widescreen" PC display mode (eg 1366 x 768) I'm not sure what would happen... It would display correctly I imagine, albeit with reduced horizontal resolution; certainly the aspect ratio should be correct. I use that res on XP with a PDP-433MXE whose native res is 1024x768, with no problems. -- Michael m r o z a t u k g a t e w a y d o t n e t |
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On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 00:37:03 +0100, Michael Rozdoba
wrote: Mike Henry wrote: IIRC Marky's TV is a plasma, not a LCD, and it's 1024 x 768 (16:0) which means it has non-square pixels. If he were to pick a "widescreen" PC display mode (eg 1366 x 768) I'm not sure what would happen... It would display correctly I imagine, albeit with reduced horizontal resolution; certainly the aspect ratio should be correct. I use that res on XP with a PDP-433MXE whose native res is 1024x768, with no problems. I can't go any higher than 1024 x 768. My telly displays 'Not Supported' :-( Bugger. Marky P. |
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"Marky P" wrote in message ... On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 00:37:03 +0100, Michael Rozdoba wrote: Mike Henry wrote: IIRC Marky's TV is a plasma, not a LCD, and it's 1024 x 768 (16:0) which means it has non-square pixels. If he were to pick a "widescreen" PC display mode (eg 1366 x 768) I'm not sure what would happen... It would display correctly I imagine, albeit with reduced horizontal resolution; certainly the aspect ratio should be correct. I use that res on XP with a PDP-433MXE whose native res is 1024x768, with no problems. I can't go any higher than 1024 x 768. My telly displays 'Not Supported' :-( Bugger. Marky P. Is it true that absinthe makes the part grow longer? |
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Marky P wrote:
On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 00:37:03 +0100, Michael Rozdoba wrote: Mike Henry wrote: IIRC Marky's TV is a plasma, not a LCD, and it's 1024 x 768 (16:0) which means it has non-square pixels. If he were to pick a "widescreen" PC display mode (eg 1366 x 768) I'm not sure what would happen... It would display correctly I imagine, albeit with reduced horizontal resolution; certainly the aspect ratio should be correct. I use that res on XP with a PDP-433MXE whose native res is 1024x768, with no problems. I can't go any higher than 1024 x 768. My telly displays 'Not Supported' :-( Bugger. Mine's similar. So, I've connected it via the component output of the graphics card (a nvidea), which has various utilities to output at HD res, and an option to scale the picture. Looks pretty good to me. Rob |
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On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 12:50:18 +0100, "me2"
wrote: "Marky P" wrote in message .. . On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 00:37:03 +0100, Michael Rozdoba wrote: Mike Henry wrote: IIRC Marky's TV is a plasma, not a LCD, and it's 1024 x 768 (16:0) which means it has non-square pixels. If he were to pick a "widescreen" PC display mode (eg 1366 x 768) I'm not sure what would happen... It would display correctly I imagine, albeit with reduced horizontal resolution; certainly the aspect ratio should be correct. I use that res on XP with a PDP-433MXE whose native res is 1024x768, with no problems. I can't go any higher than 1024 x 768. My telly displays 'Not Supported' :-( Bugger. Marky P. Is it true that absinthe makes the part grow longer? After I drink that stuff, I sound like a motorbike when I break wind. Charlie -- Remove NO-SPOO-PLEASE from my email address to reply Please send no unsolicited email or foodstuffs |
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uk.tech.digital-tv
Charlie Pearce Sun, 10 Sep 2006 16:36:26 +0100 Is it true that absinthe makes the part grow longer? After I drink that stuff, I sound like a motorbike when I break wind. Would that be a 2 stroke or a 4 stroke :-) -- Encrypted email address www.emailuser.co.uk/?name=KRUSTOV True or false quiz www.emailuser.co.uk/tof.php |
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Krustov wrote:
uk.tech.digital-tv Charlie Pearce Sun, 10 Sep 2006 16:36:26 +0100 Is it true that absinthe makes the part grow longer? After I drink that stuff, I sound like a motorbike when I break wind. Would that be a 2 stroke or a 4 stroke :-) Either as long as it's a Honda. Tim |
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On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 13:15:51 +0100, Rob
wrote: Marky P wrote: On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 00:37:03 +0100, Michael Rozdoba wrote: Mike Henry wrote: IIRC Marky's TV is a plasma, not a LCD, and it's 1024 x 768 (16:0) which means it has non-square pixels. If he were to pick a "widescreen" PC display mode (eg 1366 x 768) I'm not sure what would happen... It would display correctly I imagine, albeit with reduced horizontal resolution; certainly the aspect ratio should be correct. I use that res on XP with a PDP-433MXE whose native res is 1024x768, with no problems. I can't go any higher than 1024 x 768. My telly displays 'Not Supported' :-( Bugger. Mine's similar. So, I've connected it via the component output of the graphics card (a nvidea), which has various utilities to output at HD res, and an option to scale the picture. Looks pretty good to me. Rob My graphics card only has S-video out, maybe I'll upgrade sometime & give it a go. Marky P. |
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Marky P wrote:
On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 13:15:51 +0100, Rob wrote: Marky P wrote: On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 00:37:03 +0100, Michael Rozdoba wrote: Mike Henry wrote: IIRC Marky's TV is a plasma, not a LCD, and it's 1024 x 768 (16:0) which means it has non-square pixels. If he were to pick a "widescreen" PC display mode (eg 1366 x 768) I'm not sure what would happen... It would display correctly I imagine, albeit with reduced horizontal resolution; certainly the aspect ratio should be correct. I use that res on XP with a PDP-433MXE whose native res is 1024x768, with no problems. I can't go any higher than 1024 x 768. My telly displays 'Not Supported' :-( Bugger. Mine's similar. So, I've connected it via the component output of the graphics card (a nvidea), which has various utilities to output at HD res, and an option to scale the picture. Looks pretty good to me. Rob My graphics card only has S-video out, maybe I'll upgrade sometime & give it a go. Depending on the source it might not make much of a difference to the picture quality, but IIRC the 'better' options come with HD/component (720p). Graphics cards with HDMI are starting to become available - I've yet to see a review yet. Rob |
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from "Tim Downie" contains these words: Krustov wrote: uk.tech.digital-tv Charlie Pearce Sun, 10 Sep 2006 16:36:26 +0100 Is it true that absinthe makes the part grow longer? After I drink that stuff, I sound like a motorbike when I break wind. Would that be a 2 stroke or a 4 stroke :-) Either as long as it's a Honda. Ah! The old "Abscess makes the fart go Honda" joke. :-) -- Regards, John. Please remove the "ohggcyht" before replying. The address has been munged to reject Spam-bots. |
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Marky P wrote:
On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 13:15:51 +0100, Rob wrote: Marky P wrote: On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 00:37:03 +0100, Michael Rozdoba wrote: Mike Henry wrote: IIRC Marky's TV is a plasma, not a LCD, and it's 1024 x 768 (16:0) which means it has non-square pixels. If he were to pick a "widescreen" PC display mode (eg 1366 x 768) I'm not sure what would happen... It would display correctly I imagine, albeit with reduced horizontal resolution; certainly the aspect ratio should be correct. I use that res on XP with a PDP-433MXE whose native res is 1024x768, with no problems. I can't go any higher than 1024 x 768. My telly displays 'Not Supported' :-( Bugger. Mine's similar. So, I've connected it via the component output of the graphics card (a nvidea), which has various utilities to output at HD res, and an option to scale the picture. Looks pretty good to me. Rob My graphics card only has S-video out, Oh, well, no wonder then. Doesn't the TV have a vga, dvi or hdmi input? How far is it from the PC? -- Michael m r o z a t u k g a t e w a y d o t n e t |
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Tim Downie wrote:
~ Krustov wrote: ~ ~ uk.tech.digital-tv ~ ~ Charlie Pearce ~ ~ Sun, 10 Sep 2006 16:36:26 +0100 ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Is it true that absinthe makes the part grow longer? ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ After I drink that stuff, I sound like a motorbike when I break ~ ~ ~ wind. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Would that be a 2 stroke or a 4 stroke :-) ~ ~ Either as long as it's a Honda. No, no, no......"abscess makes the fart go Honda" ! ;) -- RKP |
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On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 10:20:58 +0100, Michael Rozdoba
wrote: Marky P wrote: On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 13:15:51 +0100, Rob wrote: Marky P wrote: On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 00:37:03 +0100, Michael Rozdoba wrote: Mike Henry wrote: IIRC Marky's TV is a plasma, not a LCD, and it's 1024 x 768 (16:0) which means it has non-square pixels. If he were to pick a "widescreen" PC display mode (eg 1366 x 768) I'm not sure what would happen... It would display correctly I imagine, albeit with reduced horizontal resolution; certainly the aspect ratio should be correct. I use that res on XP with a PDP-433MXE whose native res is 1024x768, with no problems. I can't go any higher than 1024 x 768. My telly displays 'Not Supported' :-( Bugger. Mine's similar. So, I've connected it via the component output of the graphics card (a nvidea), which has various utilities to output at HD res, and an option to scale the picture. Looks pretty good to me. Rob My graphics card only has S-video out, Oh, well, no wonder then. Doesn't the TV have a vga, dvi or hdmi input? How far is it from the PC? I'm not using the S-video out, I'm using the monitor connection straight to the PC socket on the telly. Oddly enough, the 50" version on my telly supports the higher resolution, but I either have to settle with 4:3 or stretched 16:9 (which is ok for newsgroups but not pictures). Perhaps Windows Vista will have more options. Marky P. |
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Marky P wrote:
On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 10:20:58 +0100, Michael Rozdoba wrote: Marky P wrote: On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 13:15:51 +0100, Rob wrote: Marky P wrote: On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 00:37:03 +0100, Michael Rozdoba wrote: Mike Henry wrote: IIRC Marky's TV is a plasma, not a LCD, and it's 1024 x 768 (16:0) which means it has non-square pixels. If he were to pick a "widescreen" PC display mode (eg 1366 x 768) I'm not sure what would happen... It would display correctly I imagine, albeit with reduced horizontal resolution; certainly the aspect ratio should be correct. I use that res on XP with a PDP-433MXE whose native res is 1024x768, with no problems. I can't go any higher than 1024 x 768. My telly displays 'Not Supported' :-( Bugger. Mine's similar. So, I've connected it via the component output of the graphics card (a nvidea), which has various utilities to output at HD res, and an option to scale the picture. Looks pretty good to me. Rob My graphics card only has S-video out, Oh, well, no wonder then. Doesn't the TV have a vga, dvi or hdmi input? How far is it from the PC? I'm not using the S-video out, I'm using the monitor connection straight to the PC socket on the telly. Oddly enough, the 50" version on my telly supports the higher resolution, but I either have to settle with 4:3 or stretched 16:9 (which is ok for newsgroups but not pictures). Perhaps Windows Vista will have more options. Marky P. I'm not sure this 'native' thing can be done in software - the TV can accept the resolution or it can't. I'm in a similar position to you - I'd suggest getting a new video card - the 6600GT with component out/720p I have does a decent job after a lot of fiddling. Or perhaps one of the new HDMI cards once a few reviews are out: http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/produ...113171&_LOC=UK Rob |
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Rob wrote:
Marky P wrote: On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 10:20:58 +0100, Michael Rozdoba wrote: Marky P wrote: On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 13:15:51 +0100, Rob wrote: Marky P wrote: On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 00:37:03 +0100, Michael Rozdoba wrote: Mike Henry wrote: IIRC Marky's TV is a plasma, not a LCD, and it's 1024 x 768 (16:0) which means it has non-square pixels. If he were to pick a "widescreen" PC display mode (eg 1366 x 768) I'm not sure what would happen... It would display correctly I imagine, albeit with reduced horizontal resolution; certainly the aspect ratio should be correct. I use that res on XP with a PDP-433MXE whose native res is 1024x768, with no problems. I can't go any higher than 1024 x 768. My telly displays 'Not Supported' :-( Bugger. Mine's similar. So, I've connected it via the component output of the graphics card (a nvidea), which has various utilities to output at HD res, and an option to scale the picture. Looks pretty good to me. Rob My graphics card only has S-video out, Oh, well, no wonder then. Doesn't the TV have a vga, dvi or hdmi input? How far is it from the PC? I'm not using the S-video out, I'm using the monitor connection straight to the PC socket on the telly. Oddly enough, the 50" version on my telly supports the higher resolution, but I either have to settle with 4:3 or stretched 16:9 (which is ok for newsgroups but not pictures). Perhaps Windows Vista will have more options. Marky P. I'm not sure this 'native' thing can be done in software - the TV can accept the resolution or it can't. I'm in a similar position to you - I'd suggest getting a new video card - the 6600GT with component out/720p I have does a decent job after a lot of fiddling. Or perhaps one of the new HDMI cards once a few reviews are out: http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/produ...113171&_LOC=UK Rob A review: http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=6199&page=4 |
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Marky P wrote:
I'm not using the S-video out, I'm using the monitor connection straight to the PC socket on the telly. Oddly enough, the 50" version on my telly supports the higher resolution, but I either have to settle with 4:3 or stretched 16:9 (which is ok for newsgroups but not pictures). Perhaps Windows Vista will have more options. By PC socket, do you mean VGA, DVI-I, or DVI-D. The answer is different depending on which it is. -- Dave Farrance |
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On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 07:08:43 GMT, Dave Farrance
wrote: Marky P wrote: I'm not using the S-video out, I'm using the monitor connection straight to the PC socket on the telly. Oddly enough, the 50" version on my telly supports the higher resolution, but I either have to settle with 4:3 or stretched 16:9 (which is ok for newsgroups but not pictures). Perhaps Windows Vista will have more options. By PC socket, do you mean VGA, DVI-I, or DVI-D. The answer is different depending on which it is. It's just labelled PC, but I believe it is VGA. Marky P. |
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On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 07:17:22 +0100, Rob
wrote: Rob wrote: Marky P wrote: On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 10:20:58 +0100, Michael Rozdoba wrote: Marky P wrote: On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 13:15:51 +0100, Rob wrote: Marky P wrote: On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 00:37:03 +0100, Michael Rozdoba wrote: Mike Henry wrote: IIRC Marky's TV is a plasma, not a LCD, and it's 1024 x 768 (16:0) which means it has non-square pixels. If he were to pick a "widescreen" PC display mode (eg 1366 x 768) I'm not sure what would happen... It would display correctly I imagine, albeit with reduced horizontal resolution; certainly the aspect ratio should be correct. I use that res on XP with a PDP-433MXE whose native res is 1024x768, with no problems. I can't go any higher than 1024 x 768. My telly displays 'Not Supported' :-( Bugger. Mine's similar. So, I've connected it via the component output of the graphics card (a nvidea), which has various utilities to output at HD res, and an option to scale the picture. Looks pretty good to me. Rob My graphics card only has S-video out, Oh, well, no wonder then. Doesn't the TV have a vga, dvi or hdmi input? How far is it from the PC? I'm not using the S-video out, I'm using the monitor connection straight to the PC socket on the telly. Oddly enough, the 50" version on my telly supports the higher resolution, but I either have to settle with 4:3 or stretched 16:9 (which is ok for newsgroups but not pictures). Perhaps Windows Vista will have more options. Marky P. I'm not sure this 'native' thing can be done in software - the TV can accept the resolution or it can't. I'm in a similar position to you - I'd suggest getting a new video card - the 6600GT with component out/720p I have does a decent job after a lot of fiddling. Or perhaps one of the new HDMI cards once a few reviews are out: http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/produ...113171&_LOC=UK Rob A review: http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=6199&page=4 That sounds ok. Not toooooo expensive. I may give it a go. Marky P. |
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Marky.
I, too have been struggling with this problem. I have a Media Centre PVR whichI want to output on a 16:9 analogue telly & a an XGA projector.I believe we both have a fudemental problem. Your monitor is 4:3, your TV is 16:9 & a lot of want you want to watch off DVD is 2.35:1. You can have either a reasonable 16:9 display on the telly & a crap display on the monitor or vice versa. You can find a 16:9 screen template for the PC which makes it display Windows reasonably well on the telly but you have to fudge it for the monitor. If you have a true 1024x768 telly with non-square pixels then you have to do something on the graphics card to correct for this. HDMI graphics cards are just becoming available but they are fairly expensive & bloody noisy (fans that wouldn't be out of place on the back of a hovercraft). I have seen an announcement for a passively cooled Radeon 6600 with HDMI/HDCP which is coming out in October. This seems more what we need but no prices are yet available & you do need a full height case & probably two free slots to accommodate the heat pipes & heat sinks. I have not yet made the move to HD so I have solved the problem by using a VGA-composite converter which allows me to scale & position the picture so that it is acceptable on the monitor & looks OK on the 16:9 telly or my 1024x768 (4:3) projector. I believe that our problem will become most other people's problem as HD becomes more mainstream. This suggests that the problem will have to be addressed sooner rather than later. However, at present, I think HD is very much "bleeding edge" technology & the best approach is to stay with the absinthe & wait until the technology matures & reduces in price. If you consume enough on a regular basis, you won't notice the crap pictures. I use London Pride, myself! In article , Marky P writes On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 07:17:22 +0100, Rob wrote: Rob wrote: Marky P wrote: On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 10:20:58 +0100, Michael Rozdoba wrote: Marky P wrote: On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 13:15:51 +0100, Rob wrote: Marky P wrote: On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 00:37:03 +0100, Michael Rozdoba wrote: Mike Henry wrote: IIRC Marky's TV is a plasma, not a LCD, and it's 1024 x 768 (16:0) which means it has non-square pixels. If he were to pick a "widescreen" PC display mode (eg 1366 x 768) I'm not sure what would happen... It would display correctly I imagine, albeit with reduced horizontal resolution; certainly the aspect ratio should be correct. I use that res on XP with a PDP-433MXE whose native res is 1024x768, with no problems. I can't go any higher than 1024 x 768. My telly displays 'Not Supported' :-( Bugger. Mine's similar. So, I've connected it via the component output of the graphics card (a nvidea), which has various utilities to output at HD res, and an option to scale the picture. Looks pretty good to me. Rob My graphics card only has S-video out, Oh, well, no wonder then. Doesn't the TV have a vga, dvi or hdmi input? How far is it from the PC? I'm not using the S-video out, I'm using the monitor connection straight to the PC socket on the telly. Oddly enough, the 50" version on my telly supports the higher resolution, but I either have to settle with 4:3 or stretched 16:9 (which is ok for newsgroups but not pictures). Perhaps Windows Vista will have more options. Marky P. I'm not sure this 'native' thing can be done in software - the TV can accept the resolution or it can't. I'm in a similar position to you - I'd suggest getting a new video card - the 6600GT with component out/720p I have does a decent job after a lot of fiddling. Or perhaps one of the new HDMI cards once a few reviews are out: http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/produ...n=c2hvd19wcm9k dWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3=&product_uid=113171&_LOC=UK Rob A review: http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=6199&page=4 That sounds ok. Not toooooo expensive. I may give it a go. Marky P. -- Keith Bailey |
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Marky P wrote:
On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 07:08:43 GMT, Dave Farrance wrote: By PC socket, do you mean VGA, DVI-I, or DVI-D. The answer is different depending on which it is. It's just labelled PC, but I believe it is VGA. Hmm. You don't sound very sure. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VGA_connector http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVI_connector If it is VGA, then that's an analogue connector, so the capability just depends on the graphics card of the PC. You simply select a 16:9 ratio such as 1366 x 768, and the TV won't know how many analogue pixels that you chose because that information isn't preserved with an analogue connector, so it should simply display the picture with the correct ratio. -- Dave Farrance |
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Keith Bailey wrote:
Marky. I, too have been struggling with this problem. I have a Media Centre PVR whichI want to output on a 16:9 analogue telly & a an XGA projector.I believe we both have a fudemental problem. Your monitor is 4:3, your TV is 16:9 & a lot of want you want to watch off DVD is 2.35:1. You can have either a reasonable 16:9 display on the telly & a crap display on the monitor or vice versa. You can find a 16:9 screen template for the PC which makes it display Windows reasonably well on the telly but you have to fudge it for the monitor. If you have a true 1024x768 telly with non-square pixels then you have to do something on the graphics card to correct for this. HDMI graphics cards are just becoming available but they are fairly expensive & bloody noisy (fans that wouldn't be out of place on the back of a hovercraft). I have seen an announcement for a passively cooled Radeon 6600 with HDMI/HDCP which is coming out in October. This seems more what we need but no prices are yet available & you do need a full height case & probably two free slots to accommodate the heat pipes & heat sinks. Good points - and I'm with you all the way on the noise thing. I have not yet made the move to HD so I have solved the problem by using a VGA-composite converter which allows me to scale & position the picture so that it is acceptable on the monitor & looks OK on the 16:9 telly or my 1024x768 (4:3) projector. I really think you'd be better with a graphics card that has component out. My 6600GT, that I've manged to quieten, does a pretty good job. Apple has just announced iTV (for 2007) - A HD-capable bridge between computer and TV. Quite why these things aren't built into PCs yet I don't know. I believe that our problem will become most other people's problem as HD becomes more mainstream. This suggests that the problem will have to be addressed sooner rather than later. However, at present, I think HD is very much "bleeding edge" technology & the best approach is to stay with the absinthe & wait until the technology matures & reduces in price. If you consume enough on a regular basis, you won't notice the crap pictures. I use London Pride, myself! :-) I'm leaving HD for a long time. I won't subscribe to anything, so that leaves next gen video - a while off. Rob In article , Marky P writes On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 07:17:22 +0100, Rob wrote: Rob wrote: Marky P wrote: On Mon, 11 Sep 2006 10:20:58 +0100, Michael Rozdoba wrote: Marky P wrote: On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 13:15:51 +0100, Rob wrote: Marky P wrote: On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 00:37:03 +0100, Michael Rozdoba wrote: Mike Henry wrote: IIRC Marky's TV is a plasma, not a LCD, and it's 1024 x 768 (16:0) which means it has non-square pixels. If he were to pick a "widescreen" PC display mode (eg 1366 x 768) I'm not sure what would happen... It would display correctly I imagine, albeit with reduced horizontal resolution; certainly the aspect ratio should be correct. I use that res on XP with a PDP-433MXE whose native res is 1024x768, with no problems. I can't go any higher than 1024 x 768. My telly displays 'Not Supported' :-( Bugger. Mine's similar. So, I've connected it via the component output of the graphics card (a nvidea), which has various utilities to output at HD res, and an option to scale the picture. Looks pretty good to me. Rob My graphics card only has S-video out, Oh, well, no wonder then. Doesn't the TV have a vga, dvi or hdmi input? How far is it from the PC? I'm not using the S-video out, I'm using the monitor connection straight to the PC socket on the telly. Oddly enough, the 50" version on my telly supports the higher resolution, but I either have to settle with 4:3 or stretched 16:9 (which is ok for newsgroups but not pictures). Perhaps Windows Vista will have more options. Marky P. I'm not sure this 'native' thing can be done in software - the TV can accept the resolution or it can't. I'm in a similar position to you - I'd suggest getting a new video card - the 6600GT with component out/720p I have does a decent job after a lot of fiddling. Or perhaps one of the new HDMI cards once a few reviews are out: http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/produ...n=c2hvd19wcm9k dWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3=&product_uid=113171&_LOC=UK Rob A review: http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=6199&page=4 That sounds ok. Not toooooo expensive. I may give it a go. Marky P. |
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Dave Farrance wrote:
Marky P wrote: On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 07:08:43 GMT, Dave Farrance wrote: By PC socket, do you mean VGA, DVI-I, or DVI-D. The answer is different depending on which it is. It's just labelled PC, but I believe it is VGA. Hmm. You don't sound very sure. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VGA_connector http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVI_connector If it is VGA, then that's an analogue connector, so the capability just depends on the graphics card of the PC. You simply select a 16:9 ratio such as 1366 x 768, and the TV won't know how many analogue pixels that you chose because that information isn't preserved with an analogue connector, so it should simply display the picture with the correct ratio. Tried that - it just doesn't work. The picture doesn't fit and the nVidea software I use can't correct it. I don't know why - I agree that it should, but I ended up using component HD 720p. Rob |
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Rob wrote:
Dave Farrance wrote: If it is VGA, then that's an analogue connector, so the capability just depends on the graphics card of the PC. You simply select a 16:9 ratio such as 1366 x 768, and the TV won't know how many analogue pixels that you chose because that information isn't preserved with an analogue connector, so it should simply display the picture with the correct ratio. Tried that - it just doesn't work. The picture doesn't fit and the nVidea software I use can't correct it. I don't know why - I agree that it should, but I ended up using component HD 720p. From which I assume that your nVidea card has a specific TV-out mode - which means that it's in widescreen mode with 1280x720 pixels. But I forgot that the speed at which the horizontal pixels are clocked out of the graphics card is critical. If the connectors are analogue (VGA, SCART or component) then the TV won't be able to map exactly 1:1 with the horizontal pixels because it won't know where they start and end, so it'll rely on the timing of the left-to-right raster scan. So if the TV is connected via an analogue connector, then it will only work correctly if the graphics card has specific TV-out modes, which might include widescreen and/or HDTV, which depends on how recent the graphics card is. -- Dave Farrance |
Slightly o/t: PC on widescreen telly
Dave Farrance wrote:
Rob wrote: Dave Farrance wrote: If it is VGA, then that's an analogue connector, so the capability just depends on the graphics card of the PC. You simply select a 16:9 ratio such as 1366 x 768, and the TV won't know how many analogue pixels that you chose because that information isn't preserved with an analogue connector, so it should simply display the picture with the correct ratio. Tried that - it just doesn't work. The picture doesn't fit and the nVidea software I use can't correct it. I don't know why - I agree that it should, but I ended up using component HD 720p. From which I assume that your nVidea card has a specific TV-out mode - which means that it's in widescreen mode with 1280x720 pixels. But I forgot that the speed at which the horizontal pixels are clocked out of the graphics card is critical. If the connectors are analogue (VGA, SCART or component) then the TV won't be able to map exactly 1:1 with the horizontal pixels because it won't know where they start and end, so it'll rely on the timing of the left-to-right raster scan. So if the TV is connected via an analogue connector, then it will only work correctly if the graphics card has specific TV-out modes, which might include widescreen and/or HDTV, which depends on how recent the graphics card is. Ah - good point. I think when I tried it it 'sort of figured' that it was a PC monitor. I don't remember a TV mode option, but I'll have another look. Thanks for that. Rob |
Slightly o/t: PC on widescreen telly
Rob wrote:
Dave Farrance wrote: ... So if the TV is connected via an analogue connector, then it will only work correctly if the graphics card has specific TV-out modes, which might include widescreen and/or HDTV, which depends on how recent the graphics card is. Ah - good point. I think when I tried it it 'sort of figured' that it was a PC monitor. I don't remember a TV mode option, but I'll have another look. Thanks for that. Hmm. Of course, if the TV is smart enough, then it might behave like a monitor rather than a TV when it's connected to a PC. A monitor can communicate its available modes to the PC - and the Windows driver would only present options to the user that were common to both the graphics card and the monitor. Sometimes this doesn't work too well and some drivers allow this restriction to be manually overridden. More control over the graphics card is often available if you download the latest driver from the manufacturer's website. -- Dave Farrance |
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