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"JC" wrote in message
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On Mon, 4 Sep 2006 12:08:35 +0100, "Bill Wright"
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people whose skills we need. Furthermore we should ban totally people from
cultures which we know from experience will cause them to make no attempt
to
integrate into mainstream society. The growth of ghettos full of alienated
people is a great danger.

Which cultures would those be then? ;-)

I've defined them above. But as it happens they seem to be the cultures that
have values that are at odds with our own. They believe that homosexuals
should be executed, that female adulterers should be stoned to death, that
women are inferior to men, that no-one should be allowed to question their
religion. That sort of culture.

Bill

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"JC" wrote in message
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On Mon, 4 Sep 2006 19:01:55 +0100, "Bill Wright"
wrote:

No it's the UK we need to sort out. That's where we live. Would you go and
mend your neighbour's house if your own roof had been blown off?

No, but I know we'd offer each other a place to stay while the others
damaged roof was repaired.

Not if having your neighbour to stay would conflict with your own lifetyle
or morality.

Bill

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JC wrote:
On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 20:22:40 +0100, Mark Carver
wrote:

Once in Alton there are bus services between the major towns, though
some routes go all around the villages (both a good and bad thing) can
take a few hours hours. So a 10 mile journey that take 15-20 mins by
car is a minimum of 2 hours by bus including a 1 hour walk. In my
experience the buses are for recreational use only. Everyone I know
who's carless either begs a lift, calls a taxi or walks.

Indeed. I ended up one evening having my car locked behind some gates in
Alresford. (Long story). Fortunately I was able to catch a lift back home to
Basingstoke. Next morning I had no option but to get a taxi for the 15 mile
trip to retrieve my car. Using any other form of public transport would have
taken most of the day to get there (no exaggeration).


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On Mon, 4 Sep 2006 12:08:35 +0100, "Bill Wright"
wrote:

Bill obviously means the population growth of the UK, which in my lifetime
has increased from 50 million to 60 million, despite a declining
birthrate.


Yes and it's long overdue that it was sorted out. We can't turn back the
clock, but we can start now with a complete ban on immigration except for
people whose skills we need. Furthermore we should ban totally people from
cultures which we know from experience will cause them to make no attempt to
integrate into mainstream society. The growth of ghettos full of alienated
people is a great danger.

Isn't that a tiny bit prejudiced? You seem to be suggesting that we
ban individuals on the basis of what we *presume* their intentions to
be, based on the behaviour of others.

Supposing you were such an individual, banned from entering some
foreign country on the basis of what they presume about our football
hooligans? ("Those British are all the same.....")

Rod.

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Roderick Stewart wrote:
On Mon, 4 Sep 2006 12:08:35 +0100, "Bill Wright"
wrote:

Bill obviously means the population growth of the UK, which in my
lifetime has increased from 50 million to 60 million, despite a
declining birthrate.


Yes and it's long overdue that it was sorted out. We can't turn back
the clock, but we can start now with a complete ban on immigration
except for people whose skills we need. Furthermore we should ban
totally people from cultures which we know from experience will
cause them to make no attempt to integrate into mainstream society.
The growth of ghettos full of alienated people is a great danger.

Isn't that a tiny bit prejudiced? You seem to be suggesting that we
ban individuals on the basis of what we *presume* their intentions to
be, based on the behaviour of others.

Supposing you were such an individual, banned from entering some
foreign country on the basis of what they presume about our football
hooligans? ("Those British are all the same.....")


It's a sad fact of life, but it does happen, I've actually met people who
pass themselves off in some countries they visit as being anything other
than of
British or American nationality.



Rod.

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In article ,
Bill Wright wrote:
The media in this country are infested with lefties, especially the BBC.

Except for the media that are infested with righties, especially the BBC.

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Bill Wright wrote:
"JC" wrote in message
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On Mon, 4 Sep 2006 12:08:35 +0100, "Bill Wright"
wrote:


people whose skills we need. Furthermore we should ban totally people from
cultures which we know from experience will cause them to make no attempt
to
integrate into mainstream society. The growth of ghettos full of alienated
people is a great danger.

Which cultures would those be then? ;-)


I've defined them above. But as it happens they seem to be the cultures that
have values that are at odds with our own. They believe that homosexuals
should be executed, that female adulterers should be stoned to death, that
women are inferior to men, that no-one should be allowed to question their
religion. That sort of culture.

Bill



50 years ago, they would have fitted perfectly into British
culture! Cultural change is a generational process.

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[email protected] wrote:
"JC" wrote in message
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Then you get the real morons fitting 'roo bars as well.

I thought these were illegal now due to the fact that they've been
proven to increase injury? If not maybe their removal in built up
areas should be compulsory. I know that almost all the cheap second
hand grey market japanese imports have them as standard - maybe people
can't be bothered to remove them?


You can't buy them fitted by the manufacturers.
Idiots still fit them as after market bits.

All it really shows is that they think they drive badly enough to hit
something.



It may be a more practical reason, such as an inability to
judge front bumper position when parking in front of
bollards. The bars are probably cheaper to replace than a
bumper. I saw one vehicle recently with parking sensors
fitted to the front bumper as well as the rear.

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Clem Dye wrote:

The country is well and truly heading down the toilet, IMO. It's not a
nice place to live now, let alone in 30 years. Without wishing to sound
racist in any way (so of course, I'm sure that people will construe it
that way) I feel very much a foreigner in my own country - I was born
here some 48 years ago, for those interested. It strikes me that
retirement into old age in the UK is just not an option now - sod
planning for your retirement - it seems that planning an exit strategy
out of good ol' Blighty is the name of the game.

Right now, I can't think of one good thing to say about this country to
a would-be visitor: crap health service, crap law and order policies,
crap transport, high prices, high taxes - the list is endless. What
puzzles me is just why so many foreigners want to come and settle in
this ****-pot of a place!

Because it's better than their own?

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JW wrote:
All it really shows is that they think they drive badly enough to hit
something.

It may be a more practical reason, such as an inability to
judge front bumper position when parking in front of
bollards.

And this differs from "driving badly" how, exactly?