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Bill Wright wrote:

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This is just playing Little Britain, the growth of world population
swamps our problem (if there is one). If the worlds overpopulation
was dealt with then there wouldn't be the pressures on ours.

All we need to do is keep the buggers out.

Out of where? I hadn't noticed any aliens landing on Earth - and it's on Earth
as a whole that we need to sort out.

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mike wrote:
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You're 200+ years too late with that theory...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Malthus

Yup, I didn't claim originality!

And referring to another source, when I was at school in the fifties, I was
told that the population of the world was 3 thousand million (we used
proper numbers then) and the teachers sucked their teeth and implied it was
far too many and there'd be tears before bedtime.

I believe them

There was a time - in the 70s I think - where the age of the Earth and the
world's population nicely coincided and you only needed to remember the one
number: 4.6 milliard.

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John Cartmell wrote:
There was a time - in the 70s I think - where the age of the Earth
and the world's population nicely coincided and you only needed to
remember the one number: 4.6 milliard.

Alternatively, you could recall the sleeve notes from John Brunner's 1968
dystopian novel "Stand on Zanzibar":

"There's a belief still current among British schoolchildren that you could
stand the entire human race on the 147-square-mile Isle of Wight, elbow to
elbow and face to face.

Well, that may have been true around the time of World War I although nobody
was keeping records accurate enough for us to be certain. However, right now
in the 1960's you'd have a tough job packing us on the 221-square-mile Isle
of Man.

And by 2010 -- the time this book takes place, you'd need an altogether
larger island -- something like the 640-square-mile surface of Zanzibar!"

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wrote in message
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Bill Wright wrote:
All we need to do is keep the buggers out. There isn't an overpopulation
problem at the Ritz because they don't let all and sundry in. It ain't
rocket science.

... and you think that people who live in the Ritz shouldn't care
about the hoi polloi outside no doubt!

Caring about them is one thing. Letting them in is another. I expect you
cared about that alki you saw puking in the subway, but you didn't invite
him home did you? What's ours is ours and we need to preserve it for our
future generations, not give it all away to anyone who turns up on our
shores to colonise us.

Bill

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Bill Wright wrote:
"mike" wrote in message
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"Bill Wright" wrote in
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"Their campaign against CO2 is is a vehicle for a much more radical
political agenda, however. "Our movement is based on questioning the
whole basis of economic growth" said Robbie Madden . . ."

While I agree with your thoughts about these people, I think the basic
problem is population growth, which necessarily causes economic growth,
which is all going to end, unless reversed, in unimaginable disaster.

Yes, and population growth is caused by immigration. Sucessive governments
have let us all down badly here, allowing so many people to enter the
country. It would be fine if the people coming in were selected on grounds
of ability -- they would work hard and help the economy -- but let's be
honest we now have ghettos of people who are as bad as the white trailer
trash that have long been the curse of this country. What's more, a lot of
these people are completely alienated from mainstream society and owe no
allegance to this country whatsoever. Their birthrate is far higher than
that of the general population and frankly I don't think the UK will be a
nice place to live in 30 years.

Bill


The country is well and truly heading down the toilet, IMO. It's not a
nice place to live now, let alone in 30 years. Without wishing to sound
racist in any way (so of course, I'm sure that people will construe it
that way) I feel very much a foreigner in my own country - I was born
here some 48 years ago, for those interested. It strikes me that
retirement into old age in the UK is just not an option now - sod
planning for your retirement - it seems that planning an exit strategy
out of good ol' Blighty is the name of the game.

Right now, I can't think of one good thing to say about this country to
a would-be visitor: crap health service, crap law and order policies,
crap transport, high prices, high taxes - the list is endless. What
puzzles me is just why so many foreigners want to come and settle in
this ****-pot of a place!

Sigh.


Clem

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"John Cartmell" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Bill Wright wrote:

wrote in message
...
This is just playing Little Britain, the growth of world population
swamps our problem (if there is one). If the worlds overpopulation
was dealt with then there wouldn't be the pressures on ours.

All we need to do is keep the buggers out.

Out of where? I hadn't noticed any aliens landing on Earth - and it's on
Earth
as a whole that we need to sort out.

No it's the UK we need to sort out. That's where we live. Would you go and
mend your neighbour's house if your own roof had been blown off?

This country is sliding into a multicultural morass.

Bill

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Clem Dye wrote:

What puzzles me is just why so many foreigners want to come
and settle in this ****-pot of a place!



Possibly because the ****-pot is an eminently more desirable place to live
than the self-inflicted cesspits many of these people come from.


Sigh.


Clem

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Bill Wright wrote:
No it's the UK we need to sort out. That's where we live. Would you
go and mend your neighbour's house if your own roof had been blown
off?
This country is sliding into a multicultural morass.

I think you may have inadvertently swallowed a year's worth of Daily Mail
editorials, and this has caused your "Paul Dacre Righteous Indignation
Index" to rise to dangerous levels.

A few beers and some episodes of The Simpsons may help calm you down.

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On Mon, 4 Sep 2006 11:51:31 +0100, "ChrisM"
wrote:

Don't know if Bill was actually sticking up for 4x4s in towns, many people
think they are an un-necessary burden on already crowded city streets, but

If you live on a farm in Hampshire and need to do a delivery in
London, at what point on the M3/A3 do you change from responsible
country person in to "tosser"? ;-)

Maybe we should have an exception for any 4x4 with mud present?

Rgds
Jonathan