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Krustov August 25th 06 04:45 PM

freeview box - the red dot
 
Sky wont add a option to disable the red dot - but is there any reason
why a freeview box cant add the option ? .

As a freeview box is only £30 i'd happily spend the £30 to replace my
current freeview box for one that had a option to disable the red dot .

In the argos catalog about 1-2 years ago there was a bottom of the range
bush that didnt have any interactive options and therefore no red dot .

Not suggesting the interactive should be done away with - but am
seggesting a option to disable the red dot if wanted .

Would any of you lot also be quite willing and happy to spend £30 on a
new freeview box if it had a option to disable the red dot ? .

sxb August 25th 06 04:50 PM

freeview box - the red dot
 
Krustov wrote in
m:

Sky wont add a option to disable the red dot - but is there any reason
why a freeview box cant add the option ? .


You can't disable it, but you can get it so that it goes off screen after a
minute (or two). Which is the next best thing I suppose.

--
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whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly,
and applying the wrong remedy."

August 25th 06 05:08 PM

freeview box - the red dot
 
In uk.media.tv.misc sxb wrote:
Krustov wrote in
m:

Sky wont add a option to disable the red dot - but is there any reason
why a freeview box cant add the option ? .


You can't disable it, but you can get it so that it goes off screen after a
minute (or two). Which is the next best thing I suppose.


I'm sure the firmware can be hacked. Hunt around the small ads in
electronics magazines. A google search returns a number of hits.

--
Geoff Lane, Airstrip One


Heracles Pollux August 25th 06 05:32 PM

freeview box - the red dot
 

"Krustov" wrote in message
m...
Sky wont add a option to disable the red dot - but is there any reason
why a freeview box cant add the option ? .

As a freeview box is only £30 i'd happily spend the £30 to replace my
current freeview box for one that had a option to disable the red dot .

In the argos catalog about 1-2 years ago there was a bottom of the range
bush that didnt have any interactive options and therefore no red dot .

Not suggesting the interactive should be done away with - but am
seggesting a option to disable the red dot if wanted .

Would any of you lot also be quite willing and happy to spend £30 on a
new freeview box if it had a option to disable the red dot ? .






Topfield PVR includes the facility as standard to disable RED DOT ****.

It also includes the facility to skip adverts with ease.

It also records two channels at once whilst watching a third channel or
playback.

The only things it does not do is 1, make tea, 2. give blow jobs.





Paul Heslop August 25th 06 05:32 PM

freeview box - the red dot
 
sxb wrote:

Krustov wrote in
m:

Sky wont add a option to disable the red dot - but is there any reason
why a freeview box cant add the option ? .


You can't disable it, but you can get it so that it goes off screen after a
minute (or two). Which is the next best thing I suppose.

--
"Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it
whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly,
and applying the wrong remedy."


There are channels, Challenge being one, which return the 'dot' after
so many minutes, mainly because it's plugging their gaming crap.
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Heracles Pollux August 25th 06 05:32 PM

freeview box - the red dot
 

"Edster" wrote in message
...
sxb wrote in message

Krustov wrote in
. com:

Sky wont add a option to disable the red dot - but is there any reason
why a freeview box cant add the option ? .


You can't disable it, but you can get it so that it goes off screen after
a
minute (or two). Which is the next best thing I suppose.


The old analogue Sky boxes used to have separate scart outputs for TV
and VCR. The VCR output had none of the ****e that was added to the TV
output, even if you plugged it into your TV. The only reason Sky
haven't done something similar with the digital boxes is because the
advertisers wouldn't like it. They have recently started having large
on screen adverts via "press red" during programmes. Sky shills are
claiming this is just a mistake, but it will be a mistake that happens
more and more often.




Well me not paying them £400 a year for the last 7 years is also "just a
mistake".




Big Ron August 25th 06 05:34 PM

freeview box - the red dot
 
Krustov wrote:
Sky wont add a option to disable the red dot - but is there any reason
why a freeview box cant add the option ? .



You can often get the red button to disappear by pressing the green one.


sxb August 25th 06 05:46 PM

freeview box - the red dot
 
"Big Ron" wrote in news:1156520064.731859.208540
@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:

Krustov wrote:
Sky wont add a option to disable the red dot - but is there any

reason
why a freeview box cant add the option ? .



You can often get the red button to disappear by pressing the green

one.

Problem selved then! :-)

I have no problem with red dots.

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whether it exists or not, diagnosing it incorrectly,
and applying the wrong remedy."

Max Demian August 25th 06 05:47 PM

freeview box - the red dot
 
"Big Ron" wrote in message
oups.com...
Krustov wrote:
Sky wont add a option to disable the red dot - but is there any reason
why a freeview box cant add the option ? .


You can often get the red button to disappear by pressing the green one.


You mean it pops out of the remote and rolls under the sofa?

--
Max Demian



Krustov August 25th 06 05:50 PM

freeview box - the red dot
 
uk.media.tv.misc
Heracles Pollux
Fri, 25 Aug 2006 16:32:03 +0100


Topfield PVR includes the facility as standard to disable RED DOT ****.


So it isnt a licencing issue and the companys who make freeview boxes
could add the option if they wanted ? .


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Heracles Pollux August 25th 06 05:55 PM

freeview box - the red dot
 

"Krustov" wrote in message
m...
uk.media.tv.misc
Heracles Pollux
Fri, 25 Aug 2006 16:32:03 +0100


Topfield PVR includes the facility as standard to disable RED DOT ****.


So it isnt a licencing issue and the companys who make freeview boxes
could add the option if they wanted ? .




I don't know about the politics of it but the Toppy is unusual in that 1,
its TAP API means loads of clever people write new code for it, and 2, the
Koreans who make it don't give a **** about ITV's whims since the device is
aimed at a global market not the UK.

The reason Topfield added a way to disable "interactive" / RED DOTs is the
BBC's dodgy code was crashing boxes and since they don't trust broadcasters
dodgy code, they felt it was better to give us the chance to disable it than
have 100s of us sue them.





Pyriform August 25th 06 06:05 PM

freeview box - the red dot
 
Krustov wrote:
Sky wont add a option to disable the red dot - but is there any reason
why a freeview box cant add the option ?


None at all, and some (certainly the PVR type) allow you to disable MHEG
processing, which elimnates the red dot entirely. I haven't seen one in over
a year. It also disables a few other things of course, but none of those
were worth having in the first place.

No idea about vanilla Freeview boxes.



[email protected] August 25th 06 08:31 PM

freeview box - the red dot
 
Krustov wrote:
Sky wont add a option to disable the red dot - but is there any reason
why a freeview box cant add the option ? .

As a freeview box is only £30 i'd happily spend the £30 to replace my
current freeview box for one that had a option to disable the red dot .


Anyone with a Freeview PVR might like to try recording a programme
in which red dots appear, and seeing if they have vanished from the
playback.

If you have a basic Freeview player, it'll want to put all sorts of
crap on your screen, including EPGs and volume bars when you press
the appropriate remote control button. These will ruin any recording
that is being taken straight from a Freeview box to an analogue
DVD recorder.

If you have a PVR, the same user-selected graffiti will appear on
your screen, but not on your recording.

In this respect, it's very much like the difference between recording
the output of a modern, menu-driven TV with a camcorder, as opposed
to using a VCR to record the input.


Bill Wright August 25th 06 08:38 PM

freeview box - the red dot
 

"Heracles Pollux" wrote in message
...
Topfield PVR includes the facility as standard to disable RED DOT ****.

It also includes the facility to skip adverts with ease.

It also records two channels at once whilst watching a third channel or
playback.

The only things it does not do is 1, make tea, 2. give blow jobs.


So it's OK for rimming?

Bill



Heracles Pollux August 25th 06 09:41 PM

freeview box - the red dot
 

"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...

"Heracles Pollux" wrote in message
...
Topfield PVR includes the facility as standard to disable RED DOT ****.

It also includes the facility to skip adverts with ease.

It also records two channels at once whilst watching a third channel or
playback.

The only things it does not do is 1, make tea, 2. give blow jobs.


So it's OK for rimming?

Bill



I'm sure someone is working on a downloadable TAP for all the above.

;-)



Dr Zoidberg August 25th 06 11:32 PM

freeview box - the red dot
 
Pyriform wrote:
Krustov wrote:
Sky wont add a option to disable the red dot - but is there any
reason why a freeview box cant add the option ?


None at all, and some (certainly the PVR type) allow you to disable
MHEG processing, which elimnates the red dot entirely. I haven't seen
one in over a year. It also disables a few other things of course,
but none of those were worth having in the first place.

No idea about vanilla Freeview boxes.


I don't remember seeing it on my Humaxes , nor setting any option to remove
it
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August 26th 06 01:51 PM

freeview box - the red dot
 
In uk.media.tv.misc Edster wrote:
wrote in message

In uk.media.tv.misc sxb wrote:
Krustov wrote in
m:

Sky wont add a option to disable the red dot - but is there any reason
why a freeview box cant add the option ? .

You can't disable it, but you can get it so that it goes off screen after a
minute (or two). Which is the next best thing I suppose.


I'm sure the firmware can be hacked. Hunt around the small ads in
electronics magazines. A google search returns a number of hits.


What did you search for? Anything that can get rid of that **** would
make someone a lot of money. Especially now they have started using it
as a way of displaying paid for advertising on screen during
programmes.


freeview firmware hacks red dot

returns a number of interesting suggestions including

http://forum.logofreetv.org/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=162
http://logofreetv.org/render.asp?mode=hardware#REDDOT
http://www.pacelink.co.uk/digimemo.htm

I have no idea if they work - no freeview signal here and Sky can eat ****
and die.

--
Geoff Lane, Airstrip One


Okuda August 26th 06 01:52 PM

freeview box - the red dot
 
I take it you have a plasma TV then eh..!! RED DOT = SCREEN BURN..!!!

Okuda





{{{{{Welcome}}}}} August 26th 06 03:48 PM

freeview box - the red dot
 
Thus spaketh Edster:
sxb wrote in message

Krustov wrote in
m:

Sky wont add a option to disable the red dot - but is there any
reason why a freeview box cant add the option ? .


You can't disable it, but you can get it so that it goes off screen
after a minute (or two). Which is the next best thing I suppose.


The old analogue Sky boxes used to have separate scart outputs for TV
and VCR. The VCR output had none of the ****e that was added to the TV
output, even if you plugged it into your TV. The only reason Sky
haven't done something similar with the digital boxes is because the
advertisers wouldn't like it. They have recently started having large
on screen adverts via "press red" during programmes. Sky shills are
claiming this is just a mistake, but it will be a mistake that happens
more and more often.



No such thing as analogue Sky boxes, there were however analogue
satellite boxes.


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Darren Wilkinson August 27th 06 03:50 PM

freeview box - the red dot
 
Krustov wrote:
Sky wont add a option to disable the red dot - but is there any reason
why a freeview box cant add the option ? .

As a freeview box is only £30 i'd happily spend the £30 to replace my
current freeview box for one that had a option to disable the red dot .

In the argos catalog about 1-2 years ago there was a bottom of the range
bush that didnt have any interactive options and therefore no red dot .

Not suggesting the interactive should be done away with - but am
seggesting a option to disable the red dot if wanted .

You know, until I read the above line I thought you meant an entirely different
red dot.

Would any of you lot also be quite willing and happy to spend £30 on a
new freeview box if it had a option to disable the red dot ? .


The benefits of tv via pc. I can't stand to see it on my parents Sky setup.

garbageguy August 28th 06 11:09 AM

freeview box - the red dot
 
I just pressed the back button on sky remote to get rid of the red dot?



Paul Heslop August 28th 06 11:55 AM

freeview box - the red dot
 
garbageguy wrote:

I just pressed the back button on sky remote to get rid of the red dot?


yes, that's all you have to do, til the next time it come up. Just
before movies start the thing is up and down like a prostitute's
knickers.

--
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Norman Wells August 28th 06 01:47 PM

freeview box - the red dot
 
In article , Paul Heslop
writes
garbageguy wrote:

I just pressed the back button on sky remote to get rid of the red dot?


yes, that's all you have to do, til the next time it come up. Just
before movies start the thing is up and down like a prostitute's
knickers.

I do wish people wouldn't keep updating bastions of the English language
in the hope they'll be regarded as trendy and cool.

It's "whore's drawers" man! "Prostitute's knickers" doesn't even rhyme.

--
Norman Wells

Paul Heslop August 28th 06 02:13 PM

freeview box - the red dot
 
Norman Wells wrote:

In article , Paul Heslop
writes
garbageguy wrote:

I just pressed the back button on sky remote to get rid of the red dot?


yes, that's all you have to do, til the next time it come up. Just
before movies start the thing is up and down like a prostitute's
knickers.

I do wish people wouldn't keep updating bastions of the English language
in the hope they'll be regarded as trendy and cool.

It's "whore's drawers" man! "Prostitute's knickers" doesn't even rhyme.

--
Norman Wells


Blurry heck, now THAT's pedantic :O)

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Paul Heslop August 28th 06 02:14 PM

freeview box - the red dot
 
charles wrote:

In article ,
Norman Wells wrote:
In article , Paul Heslop
writes
garbageguy wrote:

I just pressed the back button on sky remote to get rid of the red dot?

yes, that's all you have to do, til the next time it come up. Just
before movies start the thing is up and down like a prostitute's
knickers.

I do wish people wouldn't keep updating bastions of the English language
in the hope they'll be regarded as trendy and cool.


It's "whore's drawers" man! "Prostitute's knickers" doesn't even rhyme.


You both have experience? ;-)

only of the literary sort :O)


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charles August 28th 06 02:15 PM

freeview box - the red dot
 
In article ,
Norman Wells wrote:
In article , Paul Heslop
writes
garbageguy wrote:

I just pressed the back button on sky remote to get rid of the red dot?


yes, that's all you have to do, til the next time it come up. Just
before movies start the thing is up and down like a prostitute's
knickers.

I do wish people wouldn't keep updating bastions of the English language
in the hope they'll be regarded as trendy and cool.


It's "whore's drawers" man! "Prostitute's knickers" doesn't even rhyme.


You both have experience? ;-)

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Using a RISC OS computer running v5.11


Johnny B Good August 29th 06 02:47 AM

freeview box - the red dot
 
The message
from Norman Wells contains these words:

In article , Paul Heslop
writes
garbageguy wrote:

I just pressed the back button on sky remote to get rid of the red dot?


yes, that's all you have to do, til the next time it come up. Just
before movies start the thing is up and down like a prostitute's
knickers.

I do wish people wouldn't keep updating bastions of the English language
in the hope they'll be regarded as trendy and cool.


It's "whore's drawers" man! "Prostitute's knickers" doesn't even rhyme.


Quite! Can you just imagine what he'd do with the phrase "Sweating like
a bull in a tight jersey" ?

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Paul Heslop August 29th 06 03:32 AM

freeview box - the red dot
 
Johnny B Good wrote:

The message
from Norman Wells contains these words:

In article , Paul Heslop
writes
garbageguy wrote:

I just pressed the back button on sky remote to get rid of the red dot?

yes, that's all you have to do, til the next time it come up. Just
before movies start the thing is up and down like a prostitute's
knickers.

I do wish people wouldn't keep updating bastions of the English language
in the hope they'll be regarded as trendy and cool.


It's "whore's drawers" man! "Prostitute's knickers" doesn't even rhyme.


Quite! Can you just imagine what he'd do with the phrase "Sweating like
a bull in a tight jersey" ?

--
Regards, John.

Um, not use it as I have never in my whole life heard it :O)

I actually was a bit silly with the prossies knickers thing because I
have a habit of trying to put things in a way that americans will get
and in this case forgot I was in a UK group, so no need. Mind you,
some americans prefer the real thing, gives them a laugh... sayings
that is, not whore's drawers... although, hey, I'm not their mother, I
don't know what they get up to on a Monday night.


--
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Marcus Houlden August 30th 06 01:54 AM

freeview box - the red dot
 
On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 09:55:55 GMT, Paul Heslop
wrote the following to uk.media.tv.misc:


Just
before movies start the thing is up and down like a prostitute's
knickers.


I suppose that's what comes of watching the Playboy Channel too often.

mh.
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Paul Heslop August 30th 06 10:51 AM

freeview box - the red dot
 
Marcus Houlden wrote:

On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 09:55:55 GMT, Paul Heslop
wrote the following to uk.media.tv.misc:

Just
before movies start the thing is up and down like a prostitute's
knickers.


I suppose that's what comes of watching the Playboy Channel too often.

mh.
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:O) Never watch the thing, Hugh heffner kept getting in the way
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Zimmy August 30th 06 10:56 AM

freeview box - the red dot
 

"Norman Wells" wrote in message
...
In article , Paul Heslop
writes
garbageguy wrote:

I just pressed the back button on sky remote to get rid of the red dot?


yes, that's all you have to do, til the next time it come up. Just
before movies start the thing is up and down like a prostitute's
knickers.

I do wish people wouldn't keep updating bastions of the English language
in the hope they'll be regarded as trendy and cool.

It's "whore's drawers" man! "Prostitute's knickers" doesn't even rhyme.


How about "Lady of the night's tights" ? :-)

Z




Paul Heslop August 30th 06 01:35 PM

freeview box - the red dot
 
Zimmy wrote:

"Norman Wells" wrote in message
...
In article , Paul Heslop
writes
garbageguy wrote:

I just pressed the back button on sky remote to get rid of the red dot?

yes, that's all you have to do, til the next time it come up. Just
before movies start the thing is up and down like a prostitute's
knickers.

I do wish people wouldn't keep updating bastions of the English language
in the hope they'll be regarded as trendy and cool.

It's "whore's drawers" man! "Prostitute's knickers" doesn't even rhyme.


How about "Lady of the night's tights" ? :-)

Z


women with big bazoomers bloomers?

prossies cossies?


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tony sayer August 30th 06 11:11 PM

freeview box - the red dot
 
In article , Edster
writes
Norman Wells wrote in message

In article , Paul Heslop
writes
garbageguy wrote:

I just pressed the back button on sky remote to get rid of the red dot?

yes, that's all you have to do, til the next time it come up. Just
before movies start the thing is up and down like a prostitute's
knickers.

I do wish people wouldn't keep updating bastions of the English language
in the hope they'll be regarded as trendy and cool.

It's "whore's drawers" man! "Prostitute's knickers" doesn't even rhyme.


They don't wear any.


How do you know then;?...
--
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Krustov August 31st 06 07:07 PM

freeview box - the red dot
 
uk.media.tv.misc
Edster
Thu, 31 Aug 2006 16:58:23 GMT


It's "whore's drawers" man! "Prostitute's knickers" doesn't even rhyme.

They don't wear any.


How do you know then;?...


I used to live in a red light area, it's hard not to notice something
like that when they're conducting their business in your front garden.


You should have setup a webcam and started a online business .

prozziecam.co.uk :-)


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Bob Geddes August 31st 06 10:59 PM

freeview box - the red dot
 
In article , Krustov
writes
Sky wont add a option to disable the red dot - but is there any reason
why a freeview box cant add the option ? .

As a freeview box is only £30 i'd happily spend the £30 to replace my
current freeview box for one that had a option to disable the red dot .

In the argos catalog about 1-2 years ago there was a bottom of the range
bush that didnt have any interactive options and therefore no red dot .

Not suggesting the interactive should be done away with - but am
seggesting a option to disable the red dot if wanted .

Would any of you lot also be quite willing and happy to spend £30 on a
new freeview box if it had a option to disable the red dot ? .


The Thomson 2300 (£30 Comet) has an MHEG-5 on/off option.
Turn it off and you will never see a red dot again.
--
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