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Scott G. November 16th 03 03:49 PM

VOOM Free HD Offer
 
VOOM, the new HD satellite service came out with a terrific offer
yesterday. They are offering free programming until 2/29/04 and a
money back guarantee until 3/31/04 for all equipment purchased.
Essentially, they are giving you free programming and equipment for
the next four months without any obligation. If you don't like the
service they will take back the equipment until 3/31/04 and refund
your money. They also are not charging you for programming. They
currently have 25 HD channels and are promising 39 HD channels by
2/1/04.

For details call 1-800-GET-VOOM or go to www.voom.com. (The website
has not been updated yet for this new offer,so I would call for
details)

Vidguy7 November 16th 03 05:57 PM

VOOM, the new HD satellite service came out with a terrific offer
yesterday. They are offering free programming until 2/29/04 and a
money back guarantee until 3/31/04 for all equipment purchased.


What a great deal for anyone interested in HD Scott!

Kyle Roberts November 16th 03 11:49 PM


"Scott G." wrote in message
...
VOOM, the new HD satellite service came out with a terrific offer
yesterday.


Hey, look it is advertising bot.

The lineup looks like HD just for the sake of HD. Not very compelling
programming and lacking especially in the SD lineup.

Kyle




Vidguy7 November 17th 03 01:51 AM

The lineup looks like HD just for the sake of HD. Not very compelling
programming and lacking especially in the SD lineup.


"Compelling" is in the eyes of the beholder isn't it? Keep in mind too that
VOOM advertises itself as an HD service with "some" SD whereas Dish and DirecTV
are SD services with "some" HD. Different approach, different emphasis.

Vidguy7 November 19th 03 02:38 AM

But (IMO) HD just for the sake of HD is not much value. They just as well
carry HSN and QVC in HD. How many noticed they also do not offer HBO? That
alone would be a deal-breaker for me.


Ah, but HBO is just about a done deal and will arive shortly as is Cinemax E&W,
INHD1 & 2, Starz HD E&W, TMC HD, ESPN HD, NFL HD, NBA HD in addition to the
existing TWELVE exclusive HD movie channels and the special interest HD
channels. The 12 exclusive HD movie channels are already offereing some really
neat HD movies not seen on HBO, Showtime etc. YOWSER!! More HD then anybody
else by far, and excellent quality channels to boot. A win win for anybody
really interested in HD!

Dan the fan November 19th 03 04:12 AM

whats the free offer?
End higher ticket prices! Go to local college games!

IratePics November 19th 03 04:17 AM

problem is that voom is still going to charge an arm and a leg for everything
after the offer

Vidguy7 November 19th 03 02:11 PM

whats the free offer?

VOOM is offering a money back guarantee for systems purchased before 1/1/04.
Those systems can be returned for a full refund by 3/31/04 if you are not
satisfied. Pretty amazing deal in the world of electronics. Also, all
programming is free until the end of February.

Vidguy7 November 19th 03 02:17 PM

problem is that voom is still going to charge an arm and a leg for everything
after the offer


I think their price after the free offer is up is very reasonable. For $39.90
you get 21 exclusive HD channels including 12 unique movie channels showing all
HD movies. There's also a news/weather channel in HD, special interest HD
channels and for the price quoted above, you get one free "pack". A "pack" is a
combinations of other HD channels. As an example, the "HD Marquee" pack
includes Discovery HD, Starz E&W HD, INHD1 & 2 and 6 other SD Starz channels.
So all of that woud be $39.90. IMO a damn great deal.

There are 4 other packs including an HBO HD pack, Showtime HD pack, HD Sports
pack and a Cinemax HD pack. Each additional pack beyond the first free one you
choose is $14.90.

Tyler Ryan November 20th 03 02:58 AM

Do you work for Voom? If not they should be paying you!

How come you don't mention the $795.00 you have to shell out for the box up
front?

I have HD through Cox cable, 9 channels, no upfront, no extra charge per
month above what I was already paying. They will add more as it becomes
available.


"Vidguy7" wrote in message
...
problem is that voom is still going to charge an arm and a leg for

everything
after the offer


I think their price after the free offer is up is very reasonable. For

$39.90
you get 21 exclusive HD channels including 12 unique movie channels

showing all
HD movies. There's also a news/weather channel in HD, special interest HD
channels and for the price quoted above, you get one free "pack". A "pack"

is a
combinations of other HD channels. As an example, the "HD Marquee" pack
includes Discovery HD, Starz E&W HD, INHD1 & 2 and 6 other SD Starz

channels.
So all of that woud be $39.90. IMO a damn great deal.

There are 4 other packs including an HBO HD pack, Showtime HD pack, HD

Sports
pack and a Cinemax HD pack. Each additional pack beyond the first free one

you
choose is $14.90.




Dan the fan November 20th 03 03:27 AM

also cablevision's problem is that they are always fighting with someone or
doing something stupid. Note at last check espn hd still not on cablevision
End higher ticket prices! Go to local college games!

Vidguy7 November 20th 03 04:23 AM

Do you work for Voom? If not they should be paying you!

I was just waiting for someone to come up with that one. Unreal. Believe what
you want, I don't work for VOOM. I sent you a PM with all my responses. There
is no satellite provider that will give you a free HD setup. If you find one
let me know. It is WAY MORE than generous to offer a money back guarantee on
all equipment & installation until the end of March. In fact, it's unheard of.
Additionally there's no programming charge until the beginning of March. I'd
love to find deals like this in other product lines!!!

The $750 upfront and REFUNDABLE charge includes an HD STB, an OTA antenna and
installation for all of the above. That price happens to be very competitive
with any of the satellite providers. They are already providing far more HD
than your cable company, but you knew that. If you love your cable company than
stick with them, but why are you coming on here and deriding what others are
enjoying? I don't get guys like you, I really don't.

VOOM currently has 21 HD exclusive channels including 12 HD movie channels
offering HD movies you won't find on HBO or the like. They also offer special
interest channels, a sports channel, Showtime HD E&W, an HD weather/news
channel and Discovery HD. They will shortly be providing Starz HD, Cinemax HD,
NFL HD, NBA HD, INHD 1 & 2 and other HD channels.

As I said, you love your cable, stick with your cable. On the other hand I've
got an open mind and will give them a shot during this trial period. If the
programming is good I'll keep them, if not then I won't. But I certainly won't
approach it like you, that's for damn sure.

Dan the fan November 20th 03 01:33 PM

for some strange reason they dont have msg high def or fox sports high def
cahnnel
End higher ticket prices! Go to local college games!

Scott G. November 20th 03 04:34 PM

Also don't forget they are giving a two year in home service contract
with VOOM, as well. DirecTV gets $ 8 a month for an HD service
protection plan. So this is worth about $ 192, and is included in the
$ 749 price.

Scott


On 20 Nov 2003 03:23:36 GMT, (Vidguy7) wrote:

Do you work for Voom? If not they should be paying you!


I was just waiting for someone to come up with that one. Unreal. Believe what
you want, I don't work for VOOM. I sent you a PM with all my responses. There
is no satellite provider that will give you a free HD setup. If you find one
let me know. It is WAY MORE than generous to offer a money back guarantee on
all equipment & installation until the end of March. In fact, it's unheard of.
Additionally there's no programming charge until the beginning of March. I'd
love to find deals like this in other product lines!!!

The $750 upfront and REFUNDABLE charge includes an HD STB, an OTA antenna and
installation for all of the above. That price happens to be very competitive
with any of the satellite providers. They are already providing far more HD
than your cable company, but you knew that. If you love your cable company than
stick with them, but why are you coming on here and deriding what others are
enjoying? I don't get guys like you, I really don't.

VOOM currently has 21 HD exclusive channels including 12 HD movie channels
offering HD movies you won't find on HBO or the like. They also offer special
interest channels, a sports channel, Showtime HD E&W, an HD weather/news
channel and Discovery HD. They will shortly be providing Starz HD, Cinemax HD,
NFL HD, NBA HD, INHD 1 & 2 and other HD channels.

As I said, you love your cable, stick with your cable. On the other hand I've
got an open mind and will give them a shot during this trial period. If the
programming is good I'll keep them, if not then I won't. But I certainly won't
approach it like you, that's for damn sure.



Chet Hayes November 20th 03 05:06 PM

"If you love your cable company than
stick with them, but why are you coming on here and deriding what
others are
enjoying? I don't get guys like you, I really don't."


Maybe it's because he already has had experience with Cablevision and
knows how incompetent they are or looked at their success record in
other business ventures.

I've lost my premium channels for several days twice now in the last 3
months. Both times I called Cablevision and went thru their endless
menus, finally getting a real person. "Turn on the box, turn off the
box, give me the serial number, stand on your head and wait 5 mins,
should be fine in 10 mins bye...." Of course it still doesn't work.
Call back again, go thru menus, being on hold, finally they insist
they need to send a tech out, it must be a signal problem, even though
I tell them all the channels are crystal clear. Clearly, it's
something not set right on their end. Then, while waiting for a tech
to show up in a couple days, it suddenly starts working again, all on
it's own.

I think this Voom idea isn't based on a sound business plan. The vast
majority of people interested in HD either already have sat from
Direct or Dish or have cable. Dish and Direct already have about 8 HD
channels and are adding more all the time. They also have the
traditional channels like CNBC, FOX, cartoons, etc, which Voom doesn't
have. Do they expect people to have two sat services? On cable, the
other competitor, eqpt is free, and the HD offerings are constantly
increasing. (Hello Cablevision, what about your cable customers like
me? Do they expect me to go pay $750 and put up a dish to get HD
instead of just putting more on my existing cable?)

The fact that this offering increases competition is a good thing, but
I doubt it's economic viability.
















(Vidguy7) wrote in message ...
Do you work for Voom? If not they should be paying you!


I was just waiting for someone to come up with that one. Unreal. Believe what
you want, I don't work for VOOM. I sent you a PM with all my responses. There
is no satellite provider that will give you a free HD setup. If you find one
let me know. It is WAY MORE than generous to offer a money back guarantee on
all equipment & installation until the end of March. In fact, it's unheard of.
Additionally there's no programming charge until the beginning of March. I'd
love to find deals like this in other product lines!!!

The $750 upfront and REFUNDABLE charge includes an HD STB, an OTA antenna and
installation for all of the above. That price happens to be very competitive
with any of the satellite providers. They are already providing far more HD
than your cable company, but you knew that. If you love your cable company than
stick with them, but why are you coming on here and deriding what others are
enjoying? I don't get guys like you, I really don't.

VOOM currently has 21 HD exclusive channels including 12 HD movie channels
offering HD movies you won't find on HBO or the like. They also offer special
interest channels, a sports channel, Showtime HD E&W, an HD weather/news
channel and Discovery HD. They will shortly be providing Starz HD, Cinemax HD,
NFL HD, NBA HD, INHD 1 & 2 and other HD channels.

As I said, you love your cable, stick with your cable. On the other hand I've
got an open mind and will give them a shot during this trial period. If the
programming is good I'll keep them, if not then I won't. But I certainly won't
approach it like you, that's for damn sure.


Vidguy7 November 20th 03 06:04 PM

Maybe it's because he already has had experience with Cablevision and
knows how incompetent they are or looked at their success record in
other business ventures.


I take each enterprise as a seperate entity. I take it on its merit and what it
brings to the table for me. It's already bringing to the table far more HD
channels than both of the big boys combined and, this before the addition of
other channels. You have a right to pre-judge if you like, but I choose to
examine the service BEFORE judging.

think this Voom idea isn't based on a sound business plan. The vast
majority of people interested in HD either already have sat from
Direct or Dish or have cable. Dish and Direct already have about 8 HD
channels and are adding more all the time.


Whether it's a sound business plan or not is subject to debate and time will be
the judge. As to the big boys and their "8" channels, let's see: DirecTV has
HBO HD, Showtime HD, Discovery HD, HDNet, HDNet movies, ESPN and a PPV if you
want to include that...by my count that's 6 HDs plus the PPV. As to the fact
that they're "adding more all the time", I WISH. The fact is they are NOT
adding more "all the time". It's a torture getting them to add ONE. Showtime HD
was on the air for over 1/2 year before they added it. DirecTV showed adds for
Discovery HD for almost TWO YEARS before they added it. So I would
unquestionably argue with your characterization. If what you said was a fact, I
would never have tried VOOM.

Do they expect people to have two sat services?


I don't know what they expect, but I do know for me VOOM is an adjunct to
DirecTV and not a replacement....at least at the moment. Since VOOM is
essentially an HD service with some SD and DirecTV is a SD service with some
HD, I see them meeting 2 distinct needs. I can't imagine someone who's really
in to HD not seriously considering them during this generous offer. Of course I
do know some people that buy HDTVs and rarely watch HD. Why they bought an HDTV
is beyond me and these are certainly not candidates for VOOM.

On cable, the
other competitor, eqpt is free


That's cable and we're talking satellite here. No satellite provider gives out
free HD equipment.

the HD offerings are constantly
increasing. (Hello Cablevision, what about your cable customers like
me?


And I think this gets to the crux of the matter for those that appear to want
VOOM to fail or seem very angry at the VOOM concept. It seems to me that almost
all of these people are those that hate Cablevision almost more than anything
in their life.

Do they expect me to go pay $750 and put up a dish to get HD
instead of just putting more on my existing cable?)


Part of your problem is that you don't realize that VOOM is a NATIONAL service,
not just a tri-state service. I suspect that many VOOM customers have never
even heard of Cablevision. I am a Cablevision subscriber and subscribe to only
the minimum "Family Cable" and don't have any need for their premium services.
I'd much rather put that money into HD services.

The fact that this offering increases competition is a good thing, but
I doubt it's economic viability.


You could be right, but time will tell.

Jeff Rife November 20th 03 07:44 PM

Vidguy7 ) wrote in alt.tv.tech.hdtv:
I don't know what they expect, but I do know for me VOOM is an adjunct to
DirecTV and not a replacement....at least at the moment. Since VOOM is
essentially an HD service with some SD and DirecTV is a SD service with some
HD, I see them meeting 2 distinct needs.


Forgetting the $750 install price since that really isn't much more than
about $200 more than an HD DirecTV/Dish install, the programming price
isn't too bad. If you drop your premiums from DirecTV/Dish, you could save
$30 or more a month, and get the same things in HD from VOOM with almost no
change in total monthly cost.

I know Dish has some really basic packages that you might be able to end
up saving even more.

The two reasons I'm not doing anything with VOOM is no recording yet and
the fact that I will probably be moving before the end of the "free"
period. I really don't want to deal with another install in a few months.

That's cable and we're talking satellite here. No satellite provider gives out
free HD equipment.


And, we all know that cable companies don't provide the hardware for free
either. Not only do you pay rental for the box forever, but since that
takes so long on HD boxes to recoup the investment, cable companies just
solve that problem by raising all their prices.

--
Jeff Rife | "One minute we were spanking each other with
For address harvesters: | meat, and the next minute it got weird."
|
| -- Joe Hackett, "Wings"
|

Vidguy7 November 20th 03 08:43 PM

If you drop your premiums from DirecTV/Dish, you could save
$30 or more a month, and get the same things in HD from VOOM with almost no
change in total monthly cost.


Precisely.

The two reasons I'm not doing anything with VOOM is no recording yet and
the fact that I will probably be moving before the end of the "free"
period. I really don't want to deal with another install in a few months.



Makes sense, I can understand that. VOOM indicated they will be coming out with
an HD PVR in the future. Mabye by the time you move they'll have it out.

And, we all know that cable companies don't provide the hardware for free
either. Not only do you pay rental for the box forever, but since that
takes so long on HD boxes to recoup the investment, cable companies just
solve that problem by raising all their prices.


Yup! But it seems many people don't see that.

Jeff Rife November 20th 03 11:23 PM

Vidguy7 ) wrote in alt.tv.tech.hdtv:
Makes sense, I can understand that. VOOM indicated they will be coming out with
an HD PVR in the future. Mabye by the time you move they'll have it out.


The timing looks about right, so it might end up being a housewarming
present to myself. Since it will be a place where there are no worries
about what antennas/dishes I can put up (except for FAA regulations on
tower height), that won't be an issue.

I just wish we could get FireWire on all the various STBs so that we don't
have to be locked into one recorder.

--
Jeff Rife |
For address harvesters: | http://www.nabs.net/Cartoons/OverTheHedge/Olympics.gif
|
|
|

Vidguy7 November 21st 03 12:30 AM

I just wish we could get FireWire on all the various STBs so that we don't
have to be locked into one recorder.


Did I mention that VOOM said their next box will have firewire?

Jeff Rife November 21st 03 03:52 AM

Vidguy7 ) wrote in alt.tv.tech.hdtv:
Did I mention that VOOM said their next box will have firewire?


No, I don't believe you did.

I haven't seen that before, and that is great news.

--
Jeff Rife | "Oooh, I love children...
For address harvesters: | they taste like chicken."
|
| -- Heddy Newman, "Herman's Head"
|

Chet Hayes November 21st 03 05:04 AM

(Vidguy7) wrote in message ...
Maybe it's because he already has had experience with Cablevision and
knows how incompetent they are or looked at their success record in
other business ventures.


I take each enterprise as a seperate entity. I take it on its merit and what it
brings to the table for me. It's already bringing to the table far more HD
channels than both of the big boys combined and, this before the addition of
other channels. You have a right to pre-judge if you like, but I choose to
examine the service BEFORE judging.


I'm not pre-judging anything. I've watched Cablevision for years in
it's various business adventures. In my opinion, they suck at almost
everything they've done and launching a satelite isn't going to change
poor management. The corporate philosophy seems to be, if you already
have a bunch of businesses, many of them either marginally profitable
or losing money, instead of straightening them out, just go out and
get into yet another business with fierce competition that you don't
understand. Remember The Wiz?



think this Voom idea isn't based on a sound business plan. The vast
majority of people interested in HD either already have sat from
Direct or Dish or have cable. Dish and Direct already have about 8 HD
channels and are adding more all the time.


Whether it's a sound business plan or not is subject to debate and time will be
the judge. As to the big boys and their "8" channels, let's see: DirecTV has
HBO HD, Showtime HD, Discovery HD, HDNet, HDNet movies, ESPN and a PPV if you
want to include that...by my count that's 6 HDs plus the PPV. As to the fact
that they're "adding more all the time", I WISH. The fact is they are NOT
adding more "all the time". It's a torture getting them to add ONE. Showtime HD
was on the air for over 1/2 year before they added it. DirecTV showed adds for
Discovery HD for almost TWO YEARS before they added it. So I would
unquestionably argue with your characterization. If what you said was a fact, I
would never have tried VOOM.

Do they expect people to have two sat services?


I don't know what they expect, but I do know for me VOOM is an adjunct to
DirecTV and not a replacement....at least at the moment. Since VOOM is
essentially an HD service with some SD and DirecTV is a SD service with some
HD, I see them meeting 2 distinct needs. I can't imagine someone who's really
in to HD not seriously considering them during this generous offer. Of course I
do know some people that buy HDTVs and rarely watch HD. Why they bought an HDTV
is beyond me and these are certainly not candidates for VOOM.

On cable, the
other competitor, eqpt is free


That's cable and we're talking satellite here. No satellite provider gives out
free HD equipment.

the HD offerings are constantly
increasing. (Hello Cablevision, what about your cable customers like
me?


And I think this gets to the crux of the matter for those that appear to want
VOOM to fail or seem very angry at the VOOM concept. It seems to me that almost
all of these people are those that hate Cablevision almost more than anything
in their life.

Do they expect me to go pay $750 and put up a dish to get HD
instead of just putting more on my existing cable?)


Part of your problem is that you don't realize that VOOM is a NATIONAL service,
not just a tri-state service. I suspect that many VOOM customers have never
even heard of Cablevision. I am a Cablevision subscriber and subscribe to only
the minimum "Family Cable" and don't have any need for their premium services.
I'd much rather put that money into HD services.

The fact that this offering increases competition is a good thing, but
I doubt it's economic viability.


You could be right, but time will tell.


Vidguy7 November 21st 03 03:33 PM

No, I don't believe you did.

I haven't seen that before, and that is great news.

--
Jeff Rife


Jeff, of course when I see it I'll believe it.

Vidguy7 November 21st 03 03:47 PM

I'm not pre-judging anything. I've watched Cablevision for years in
it's various business adventures. In my opinion, they suck at almost
everything they've done and launching a satelite isn't going to change
poor management. The corporate philosophy seems to be, if you already
have a bunch of businesses, many of them either marginally profitable
or losing money, instead of straightening them out, just go out and
get into yet another business with fierce competition that you don't
understand. Remember The Wiz?


You say you're not pre-judging anything, but if you objectively read the above,
I think you'll see that one can easily draw the conclusion you already have.
I'd suggest you objectively find someone that has this installed and actually
view the service as if it comes from some provider you never heard of. My guess
is that you'll be VERY impressed. PQ is superb, at least as good as the big
boys if not better, HD quantity blows the big boys away, they just added NFL HD
yesterday and there's far more to come.

As I've said before, I can easily understand someone being skeptical about
Cablevision, I've lived with them for years. However, my Cablevision high speed
internet service is great and thus far I'm very impressed with VOOM. I try to
be objective when I evaluate products or services. If it's good I keep it, if
it's not I ditch it. In the end I win out by being objective.

Dan the fan November 21st 03 10:05 PM

optimum online is pretty good cable still sucks
End higher ticket prices! Go to local college games!

Thumper November 21st 03 10:33 PM

On 20 Nov 2003 20:04:32 -0800, (Chet Hayes)
wrote:

(Vidguy7) wrote in message ...
Maybe it's because he already has had experience with Cablevision and
knows how incompetent they are or looked at their success record in
other business ventures.


I take each enterprise as a seperate entity. I take it on its merit and what it
brings to the table for me. It's already bringing to the table far more HD
channels than both of the big boys combined and, this before the addition of
other channels. You have a right to pre-judge if you like, but I choose to
examine the service BEFORE judging.


I'm not pre-judging anything. I've watched Cablevision for years in
it's various business adventures. In my opinion, they suck at almost
everything they've done and launching a satelite isn't going to change
poor management. The corporate philosophy seems to be, if you already
have a bunch of businesses, many of them either marginally profitable
or losing money, instead of straightening them out, just go out and
get into yet another business with fierce competition that you don't
understand. Remember The Wiz?

The Wiz hell, remember AT&T? I've worked for them for 36 years and
watched them merge/buy Olivetti to try to get into PCs in the early
80's, then they bought NCR to get into electronic billing. How about
Wireless? AT&T Wireless is still around but in name only. It isn't
owned by AT&T. Then last but not least came cable tv. They bought up
half the cable companies in the USA and didn't know a thing about
Cable Tv. John Malone really bent them over with that one. They put
$100 billion into it and sold it to Comcast for 1/2 price.
Thumper


think this Voom idea isn't based on a sound business plan. The vast
majority of people interested in HD either already have sat from
Direct or Dish or have cable. Dish and Direct already have about 8 HD
channels and are adding more all the time.


Whether it's a sound business plan or not is subject to debate and time will be
the judge. As to the big boys and their "8" channels, let's see: DirecTV has
HBO HD, Showtime HD, Discovery HD, HDNet, HDNet movies, ESPN and a PPV if you
want to include that...by my count that's 6 HDs plus the PPV. As to the fact
that they're "adding more all the time", I WISH. The fact is they are NOT
adding more "all the time". It's a torture getting them to add ONE. Showtime HD
was on the air for over 1/2 year before they added it. DirecTV showed adds for
Discovery HD for almost TWO YEARS before they added it. So I would
unquestionably argue with your characterization. If what you said was a fact, I
would never have tried VOOM.

Do they expect people to have two sat services?


I don't know what they expect, but I do know for me VOOM is an adjunct to
DirecTV and not a replacement....at least at the moment. Since VOOM is
essentially an HD service with some SD and DirecTV is a SD service with some
HD, I see them meeting 2 distinct needs. I can't imagine someone who's really
in to HD not seriously considering them during this generous offer. Of course I
do know some people that buy HDTVs and rarely watch HD. Why they bought an HDTV
is beyond me and these are certainly not candidates for VOOM.

On cable, the
other competitor, eqpt is free


That's cable and we're talking satellite here. No satellite provider gives out
free HD equipment.

the HD offerings are constantly
increasing. (Hello Cablevision, what about your cable customers like
me?


And I think this gets to the crux of the matter for those that appear to want
VOOM to fail or seem very angry at the VOOM concept. It seems to me that almost
all of these people are those that hate Cablevision almost more than anything
in their life.

Do they expect me to go pay $750 and put up a dish to get HD
instead of just putting more on my existing cable?)


Part of your problem is that you don't realize that VOOM is a NATIONAL service,
not just a tri-state service. I suspect that many VOOM customers have never
even heard of Cablevision. I am a Cablevision subscriber and subscribe to only
the minimum "Family Cable" and don't have any need for their premium services.
I'd much rather put that money into HD services.

The fact that this offering increases competition is a good thing, but
I doubt it's economic viability.


You could be right, but time will tell.


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