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also cablevision's problem is that they are always fighting with someone or
doing something stupid. Note at last check espn hd still not on cablevision End higher ticket prices! Go to local college games! |
Do you work for Voom? If not they should be paying you!
I was just waiting for someone to come up with that one. Unreal. Believe what you want, I don't work for VOOM. I sent you a PM with all my responses. There is no satellite provider that will give you a free HD setup. If you find one let me know. It is WAY MORE than generous to offer a money back guarantee on all equipment & installation until the end of March. In fact, it's unheard of. Additionally there's no programming charge until the beginning of March. I'd love to find deals like this in other product lines!!! The $750 upfront and REFUNDABLE charge includes an HD STB, an OTA antenna and installation for all of the above. That price happens to be very competitive with any of the satellite providers. They are already providing far more HD than your cable company, but you knew that. If you love your cable company than stick with them, but why are you coming on here and deriding what others are enjoying? I don't get guys like you, I really don't. VOOM currently has 21 HD exclusive channels including 12 HD movie channels offering HD movies you won't find on HBO or the like. They also offer special interest channels, a sports channel, Showtime HD E&W, an HD weather/news channel and Discovery HD. They will shortly be providing Starz HD, Cinemax HD, NFL HD, NBA HD, INHD 1 & 2 and other HD channels. As I said, you love your cable, stick with your cable. On the other hand I've got an open mind and will give them a shot during this trial period. If the programming is good I'll keep them, if not then I won't. But I certainly won't approach it like you, that's for damn sure. |
for some strange reason they dont have msg high def or fox sports high def
cahnnel End higher ticket prices! Go to local college games! |
"If you love your cable company than
stick with them, but why are you coming on here and deriding what others are enjoying? I don't get guys like you, I really don't." Maybe it's because he already has had experience with Cablevision and knows how incompetent they are or looked at their success record in other business ventures. I've lost my premium channels for several days twice now in the last 3 months. Both times I called Cablevision and went thru their endless menus, finally getting a real person. "Turn on the box, turn off the box, give me the serial number, stand on your head and wait 5 mins, should be fine in 10 mins bye...." Of course it still doesn't work. Call back again, go thru menus, being on hold, finally they insist they need to send a tech out, it must be a signal problem, even though I tell them all the channels are crystal clear. Clearly, it's something not set right on their end. Then, while waiting for a tech to show up in a couple days, it suddenly starts working again, all on it's own. I think this Voom idea isn't based on a sound business plan. The vast majority of people interested in HD either already have sat from Direct or Dish or have cable. Dish and Direct already have about 8 HD channels and are adding more all the time. They also have the traditional channels like CNBC, FOX, cartoons, etc, which Voom doesn't have. Do they expect people to have two sat services? On cable, the other competitor, eqpt is free, and the HD offerings are constantly increasing. (Hello Cablevision, what about your cable customers like me? Do they expect me to go pay $750 and put up a dish to get HD instead of just putting more on my existing cable?) The fact that this offering increases competition is a good thing, but I doubt it's economic viability. (Vidguy7) wrote in message ... Do you work for Voom? If not they should be paying you! I was just waiting for someone to come up with that one. Unreal. Believe what you want, I don't work for VOOM. I sent you a PM with all my responses. There is no satellite provider that will give you a free HD setup. If you find one let me know. It is WAY MORE than generous to offer a money back guarantee on all equipment & installation until the end of March. In fact, it's unheard of. Additionally there's no programming charge until the beginning of March. I'd love to find deals like this in other product lines!!! The $750 upfront and REFUNDABLE charge includes an HD STB, an OTA antenna and installation for all of the above. That price happens to be very competitive with any of the satellite providers. They are already providing far more HD than your cable company, but you knew that. If you love your cable company than stick with them, but why are you coming on here and deriding what others are enjoying? I don't get guys like you, I really don't. VOOM currently has 21 HD exclusive channels including 12 HD movie channels offering HD movies you won't find on HBO or the like. They also offer special interest channels, a sports channel, Showtime HD E&W, an HD weather/news channel and Discovery HD. They will shortly be providing Starz HD, Cinemax HD, NFL HD, NBA HD, INHD 1 & 2 and other HD channels. As I said, you love your cable, stick with your cable. On the other hand I've got an open mind and will give them a shot during this trial period. If the programming is good I'll keep them, if not then I won't. But I certainly won't approach it like you, that's for damn sure. |
Maybe it's because he already has had experience with Cablevision and
knows how incompetent they are or looked at their success record in other business ventures. I take each enterprise as a seperate entity. I take it on its merit and what it brings to the table for me. It's already bringing to the table far more HD channels than both of the big boys combined and, this before the addition of other channels. You have a right to pre-judge if you like, but I choose to examine the service BEFORE judging. think this Voom idea isn't based on a sound business plan. The vast majority of people interested in HD either already have sat from Direct or Dish or have cable. Dish and Direct already have about 8 HD channels and are adding more all the time. Whether it's a sound business plan or not is subject to debate and time will be the judge. As to the big boys and their "8" channels, let's see: DirecTV has HBO HD, Showtime HD, Discovery HD, HDNet, HDNet movies, ESPN and a PPV if you want to include that...by my count that's 6 HDs plus the PPV. As to the fact that they're "adding more all the time", I WISH. The fact is they are NOT adding more "all the time". It's a torture getting them to add ONE. Showtime HD was on the air for over 1/2 year before they added it. DirecTV showed adds for Discovery HD for almost TWO YEARS before they added it. So I would unquestionably argue with your characterization. If what you said was a fact, I would never have tried VOOM. Do they expect people to have two sat services? I don't know what they expect, but I do know for me VOOM is an adjunct to DirecTV and not a replacement....at least at the moment. Since VOOM is essentially an HD service with some SD and DirecTV is a SD service with some HD, I see them meeting 2 distinct needs. I can't imagine someone who's really in to HD not seriously considering them during this generous offer. Of course I do know some people that buy HDTVs and rarely watch HD. Why they bought an HDTV is beyond me and these are certainly not candidates for VOOM. On cable, the other competitor, eqpt is free That's cable and we're talking satellite here. No satellite provider gives out free HD equipment. the HD offerings are constantly increasing. (Hello Cablevision, what about your cable customers like me? And I think this gets to the crux of the matter for those that appear to want VOOM to fail or seem very angry at the VOOM concept. It seems to me that almost all of these people are those that hate Cablevision almost more than anything in their life. Do they expect me to go pay $750 and put up a dish to get HD instead of just putting more on my existing cable?) Part of your problem is that you don't realize that VOOM is a NATIONAL service, not just a tri-state service. I suspect that many VOOM customers have never even heard of Cablevision. I am a Cablevision subscriber and subscribe to only the minimum "Family Cable" and don't have any need for their premium services. I'd much rather put that money into HD services. The fact that this offering increases competition is a good thing, but I doubt it's economic viability. You could be right, but time will tell. |
Vidguy7 ) wrote in alt.tv.tech.hdtv:
I don't know what they expect, but I do know for me VOOM is an adjunct to DirecTV and not a replacement....at least at the moment. Since VOOM is essentially an HD service with some SD and DirecTV is a SD service with some HD, I see them meeting 2 distinct needs. Forgetting the $750 install price since that really isn't much more than about $200 more than an HD DirecTV/Dish install, the programming price isn't too bad. If you drop your premiums from DirecTV/Dish, you could save $30 or more a month, and get the same things in HD from VOOM with almost no change in total monthly cost. I know Dish has some really basic packages that you might be able to end up saving even more. The two reasons I'm not doing anything with VOOM is no recording yet and the fact that I will probably be moving before the end of the "free" period. I really don't want to deal with another install in a few months. That's cable and we're talking satellite here. No satellite provider gives out free HD equipment. And, we all know that cable companies don't provide the hardware for free either. Not only do you pay rental for the box forever, but since that takes so long on HD boxes to recoup the investment, cable companies just solve that problem by raising all their prices. -- Jeff Rife | "One minute we were spanking each other with For address harvesters: | meat, and the next minute it got weird." | | -- Joe Hackett, "Wings" | |
If you drop your premiums from DirecTV/Dish, you could save
$30 or more a month, and get the same things in HD from VOOM with almost no change in total monthly cost. Precisely. The two reasons I'm not doing anything with VOOM is no recording yet and the fact that I will probably be moving before the end of the "free" period. I really don't want to deal with another install in a few months. Makes sense, I can understand that. VOOM indicated they will be coming out with an HD PVR in the future. Mabye by the time you move they'll have it out. And, we all know that cable companies don't provide the hardware for free either. Not only do you pay rental for the box forever, but since that takes so long on HD boxes to recoup the investment, cable companies just solve that problem by raising all their prices. Yup! But it seems many people don't see that. |
Vidguy7 ) wrote in alt.tv.tech.hdtv:
Makes sense, I can understand that. VOOM indicated they will be coming out with an HD PVR in the future. Mabye by the time you move they'll have it out. The timing looks about right, so it might end up being a housewarming present to myself. Since it will be a place where there are no worries about what antennas/dishes I can put up (except for FAA regulations on tower height), that won't be an issue. I just wish we could get FireWire on all the various STBs so that we don't have to be locked into one recorder. -- Jeff Rife | For address harvesters: | http://www.nabs.net/Cartoons/OverTheHedge/Olympics.gif | | | |
I just wish we could get FireWire on all the various STBs so that we don't
have to be locked into one recorder. Did I mention that VOOM said their next box will have firewire? |
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