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{{{{{Welcome}}}}} July 25th 06 12:19 AM

Film4 Cropping Films
 
I am disgusted that Film4 are now cropping films from 2.35:1 or 1.85:1
to 16:9.


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Paul Heslop July 25th 06 12:30 AM

Film4 Cropping Films
 
{{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:

I am disgusted that Film4 are now cropping films from 2.35:1 or 1.85:1
to 16:9.

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Haven't watched enough of them, you mean they're actually trimming
part of the picture? BTW, how often are the add breaks? I was thinking
of recording the Marx bros stuff this week but it was an awkward time
and I didn't want to babysit to cut adds outs every ten minutes
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{{{{{Welcome}}}}} July 25th 06 12:52 AM

Film4 Cropping Films
 
Thus spaketh Paul Heslop:
{{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:

I am disgusted that Film4 are now cropping films from 2.35:1 or
1.85:1 to 16:9.


Haven't watched enough of them, you mean they're actually trimming
part of the picture? BTW, how often are the add breaks? I was thinking
of recording the Marx bros stuff this week but it was an awkward time
and I didn't want to babysit to cut adds outs every ten minutes



Yeah, they are cutting the sides off the films, they are shown full
width during the opening / closing credits, but during the actual film
they are then cropped down to 16:9.

The films I have watched so far have only had two breaks in them, not
sure if the other ones are more frequent, they could well be.


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Paul Heslop July 25th 06 02:57 AM

Film4 Cropping Films
 
{{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:

Thus spaketh Paul Heslop:
{{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:

I am disgusted that Film4 are now cropping films from 2.35:1 or
1.85:1 to 16:9.


Haven't watched enough of them, you mean they're actually trimming
part of the picture? BTW, how often are the add breaks? I was thinking
of recording the Marx bros stuff this week but it was an awkward time
and I didn't want to babysit to cut adds outs every ten minutes


Yeah, they are cutting the sides off the films, they are shown full
width during the opening / closing credits, but during the actual film
they are then cropped down to 16:9.

The films I have watched so far have only had two breaks in them, not
sure if the other ones are more frequent, they could well be.

Well I have my sky box set to weird dimensions so that wouldn't happen
to me on my widescreen, which it seemed to do even though it's a
bloody widescreen, so that's annoying.

Good news about the ads though, I could probably live with one every
thirty minutes max.

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Paul Heslop July 25th 06 02:58 AM

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Dave wrote:

On Mon, 24 Jul 2006 22:30:16 GMT, Paul Heslop
wrote:

BTW, how often are the add breaks? I was thinking
of recording the Marx bros stuff this week but it was an awkward time
and I didn't want to babysit to cut adds outs every ten minutes


There was one ad break in Horse Feathers, but then it only runs for
just over an hour.

Don't worry if you miss the Marx Brothers' films - they're sure to
show them again.
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Yeah, I was kind of pushing myself but didn't get round to it in the
end. It's one of those things i always think I'd like to do, certainly
makes more sense than paying out whatever prices they ask for boxed
sets of stuff nowadays.

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Moo July 25th 06 03:19 AM

Film4 Cropping Films
 

"Paul Heslop" wrote in message
...
{{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:

Thus spaketh Paul Heslop:
{{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:

I am disgusted that Film4 are now cropping films from 2.35:1 or
1.85:1 to 16:9.


Haven't watched enough of them, you mean they're actually trimming
part of the picture? BTW, how often are the add breaks? I was thinking
of recording the Marx bros stuff this week but it was an awkward time
and I didn't want to babysit to cut adds outs every ten minutes


Yeah, they are cutting the sides off the films, they are shown full
width during the opening / closing credits, but during the actual film
they are then cropped down to 16:9.

The films I have watched so far have only had two breaks in them, not
sure if the other ones are more frequent, they could well be.

Well I have my sky box set to weird dimensions so that wouldn't happen
to me on my widescreen, which it seemed to do even though it's a
bloody widescreen, so that's annoying.

Good news about the ads though, I could probably live with one every
thirty minutes max.

Well tonight was the first time I have watched...

Earlier on the advert breaks were very short and consisted of a film four ad
and a movie trailer... during Ghost World there were some standard adverts
though...



Paul Heslop July 25th 06 11:13 AM

Film4 Cropping Films
 
Moo wrote:

"Paul Heslop" wrote in message
...
{{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:

Thus spaketh Paul Heslop:
{{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:

I am disgusted that Film4 are now cropping films from 2.35:1 or
1.85:1 to 16:9.


Haven't watched enough of them, you mean they're actually trimming
part of the picture? BTW, how often are the add breaks? I was thinking
of recording the Marx bros stuff this week but it was an awkward time
and I didn't want to babysit to cut adds outs every ten minutes

Yeah, they are cutting the sides off the films, they are shown full
width during the opening / closing credits, but during the actual film
they are then cropped down to 16:9.

The films I have watched so far have only had two breaks in them, not
sure if the other ones are more frequent, they could well be.

Well I have my sky box set to weird dimensions so that wouldn't happen
to me on my widescreen, which it seemed to do even though it's a
bloody widescreen, so that's annoying.

Good news about the ads though, I could probably live with one every
thirty minutes max.

Well tonight was the first time I have watched...

Earlier on the advert breaks were very short and consisted of a film four ad
and a movie trailer... during Ghost World there were some standard adverts
though...


sounds about right.
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Gendy July 25th 06 01:35 PM

Film4 Cropping Films
 
This has been thoroughly discussed on DigitalSpy...for goodness sake....this
channel is FREE !!!!!.....it used to cost £6 a month.....never look a
gifthorse in the mouth....

Moaning about cropping is churlish.....



Paul Heslop July 25th 06 02:53 PM

Film4 Cropping Films
 
Gendy wrote:

This has been thoroughly discussed on DigitalSpy...for goodness sake....this
channel is FREE !!!!!.....it used to cost £6 a month.....never look a
gifthorse in the mouth....

Moaning about cropping is churlish.....


and moaning about moaning is girlish.

:O)
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Brian Wescombe July 25th 06 06:00 PM

Film4 Cropping Films
 

"Gendy" wrote in message
...
This has been thoroughly discussed on DigitalSpy...for goodness
sake....this channel is FREE !!!!!.....it used to cost £6 a
month.....never look a gifthorse in the mouth....

Moaning about cropping is churlish.....


Why is it? Films should be shown in their original aspect ratio or not at
all. The DVD market hasn't exactly been harmed by having films in the
correct ratio, so why won't TV companies show some balls and not crop films?

As long as Film4 crop films, I won't watch, free or not. Same goes for any
channel.


Brian Wescombe July 25th 06 06:00 PM

Film4 Cropping Films
 

"{{{{{Welcome}}}}}" wrote in message
.uk...
I am disgusted that Film4 are now cropping films from 2.35:1 or 1.85:1 to
16:9.


Agreed, see my post further down the thread.



Clem Dye July 25th 06 06:08 PM

Film4 Cropping Films
 
{{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:
I am disgusted that Film4 are now cropping films from 2.35:1 or 1.85:1
to 16:9.


Just as importantly, did anyone watch the Fifth Element list night? I
caught about 10 minutes or so - the bit where Gary Oldman (in character,
of course) gets the empty box of stones and starts blasting the ceiling
of the room. Jeez, what on earth happened to the sound mix?

I hope that these are teething troubles for F4 on Freeview. It's bad
enough having ad. breaks (although I can appreciate why) without having
naff audio, as well as picture, by the sound of things (no pun intended).


Clem

John Howells July 25th 06 06:26 PM

Film4 Cropping Films
 

"Gendy" wrote

Moaning about cropping is churlish.....


Nonsense! If they claim to be a specialist film channel they should show the
films as originally intended. That they are nominally free has no bearing on
the matter.

John Howells



GM6TRS July 26th 06 12:13 AM

Film4 Cropping Films
 

"John Howells" wrote in message
...

"Gendy" wrote

Moaning about cropping is churlish.....


Nonsense! If they claim to be a specialist film channel they should

show the
films as originally intended. That they are nominally free has no

bearing on
the matter.


Aye - wot 'e sed



etillet July 26th 06 01:36 PM

Film4 Cropping Films
 
{{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:
I am disgusted that Film4 are now cropping films from 2.35:1 or 1.85:1
to 16:9.



Maybe you should ask for a refund.

ThePunisher July 26th 06 04:51 PM

Film4 Cropping Films
 
{{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:
I am disgusted that Film4 are now cropping films from 2.35:1 or 1.85:1
to 16:9.


??? They've beed doing this since the channel started.

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{{{{{Welcome}}}}} July 26th 06 05:30 PM

Film4 Cropping Films
 
Thus spaketh ThePunisher:
{{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:
I am disgusted that Film4 are now cropping films from 2.35:1 or
1.85:1 to 16:9.


??? They've beed doing this since the channel started.



Not the films I watched when I subscribed a few times in the past.

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{{{{{Welcome}}}}} July 26th 06 05:31 PM

Film4 Cropping Films
 
Thus spaketh etillet:
{{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:
I am disgusted that Film4 are now cropping films from 2.35:1 or
1.85:1 to 16:9.



Maybe you should ask for a refund.



You know, I think I may just do that. Thanks!


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Adrian A July 26th 06 06:25 PM

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ThePunisher wrote:
{{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:
I am disgusted that Film4 are now cropping films from 2.35:1 or
1.85:1 to 16:9.


??? They've beed doing this since the channel started.


Have you got a cold?
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Bazzer Smith July 26th 06 07:05 PM

Film4 Cropping Films
 

"{{{{{Welcome}}}}}" wrote in message
.uk...
I am disgusted that Film4 are now cropping films from 2.35:1 or 1.85:1 to
16:9.



What do you think about 4:3 programs being cropped to 16:9?

You gotta love widescreen, best thing since the plague.




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{{{{{Welcome}}}}} July 26th 06 07:16 PM

Film4 Cropping Films
 
Thus spaketh Bazzer Smith:
"{{{{{Welcome}}}}}" wrote in
message .uk...
I am disgusted that Film4 are now cropping films from 2.35:1 or
1.85:1 to 16:9.



What do you think about 4:3 programs being cropped to 16:9?

You gotta love widescreen, best thing since the plague.



I refuse to watch 4:3 programmes cropped to 16:9 too.

John Patrick July 26th 06 07:20 PM

Film4 Cropping Films
 
As long as Film4 crop films, I won't watch, free or not. Same goes for any
channel.



Well at least that shows some sense, if you are really that annoyed by it,
rather than just whining on here about it. I wonder if others that whine on
here whine also to the company in question or just assault our eyes with
their whining. Though personally I don't care if theres something I really
want to watch I will watch regardless of cropping or adverts. OK I usually
recoed things that have ads and then skip the ads.





Paul Heslop July 26th 06 08:21 PM

Film4 Cropping Films
 
John Patrick wrote:

As long as Film4 crop films, I won't watch, free or not. Same goes for any
channel.


Well at least that shows some sense, if you are really that annoyed by it,
rather than just whining on here about it. I wonder if others that whine on
here whine also to the company in question or just assault our eyes with
their whining. Though personally I don't care if theres something I really
want to watch I will watch regardless of cropping or adverts. OK I usually
recoed things that have ads and then skip the ads.


Well I've thrown a couple of messages at sky about their onscreen
crap. I get an answer which although it seems personal basically says
they have researched these things and they're right. I write back to
them saying I disagree with that and if they listened to their
customers they would give them an option to turn stuff like that off
permanently. I have never got a second reply.
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ThePunisher July 26th 06 09:40 PM

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"Adrian A" wrote in message
om
ThePunisher wrote:
{{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:
I am disgusted that Film4 are now cropping films from 2.35:1 or
1.85:1 to 16:9.


??? They've beed doing this since the channel started.


Have you got a cold?


Hey! n and d are right beside each other... well thay are if i can bend my
keyboard in a certain way.

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ThePunisher July 26th 06 09:41 PM

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"Bazzer Smith" wrote in message

"{{{{{Welcome}}}}}" wrote in
message .uk...
Thus spaketh Bazzer Smith:
"{{{{{Welcome}}}}}" wrote in
message .uk...
I am disgusted that Film4 are now cropping films from 2.35:1 or
1.85:1 to 16:9.


What do you think about 4:3 programs being cropped to 16:9?

You gotta love widescreen, best thing since the plague.



I refuse to watch 4:3 programmes cropped to 16:9 too.


Kind of limits your viewing choces somewhat, losing
50 years or so of broadcsting.


Why would that be? all widescreen tvs can display 4:3 pictures in 4:3

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Bazzer Smith July 26th 06 09:45 PM

Film4 Cropping Films
 

"{{{{{Welcome}}}}}" wrote in message
.uk...
Thus spaketh Bazzer Smith:
"{{{{{Welcome}}}}}" wrote in
message .uk...
I am disgusted that Film4 are now cropping films from 2.35:1 or
1.85:1 to 16:9.



What do you think about 4:3 programs being cropped to 16:9?

You gotta love widescreen, best thing since the plague.



I refuse to watch 4:3 programmes cropped to 16:9 too.


Kind of limits your viewing choces somewhat, losing
50 years or so of broadcsting.



{{{{{Welcome}}}}} July 26th 06 09:47 PM

Film4 Cropping Films
 
Thus spaketh Bazzer Smith:
"{{{{{Welcome}}}}}" wrote in
message .uk...
Thus spaketh Bazzer Smith:
"{{{{{Welcome}}}}}" wrote in
message .uk...
I am disgusted that Film4 are now cropping films from 2.35:1 or
1.85:1 to 16:9.


What do you think about 4:3 programs being cropped to 16:9?

You gotta love widescreen, best thing since the plague.



I refuse to watch 4:3 programmes cropped to 16:9 too.


Kind of limits your viewing choces somewhat, losing
50 years or so of broadcsting.



Not really as most 4:3 programmes aren't cropped to 16:9 they are
broadcast as they should be in 4:3.


Bazzer Smith July 26th 06 10:22 PM

Film4 Cropping Films
 

"ThePunisher" wrote in message
...
"Bazzer Smith" wrote in message

"{{{{{Welcome}}}}}" wrote in
message .uk...
Thus spaketh Bazzer Smith:
"{{{{{Welcome}}}}}" wrote in
message .uk...
I am disgusted that Film4 are now cropping films from 2.35:1 or
1.85:1 to 16:9.


What do you think about 4:3 programs being cropped to 16:9?

You gotta love widescreen, best thing since the plague.



I refuse to watch 4:3 programmes cropped to 16:9 too.


Kind of limits your viewing choces somewhat, losing
50 years or so of broadcsting.


Why would that be? all widescreen tvs can display 4:3 pictures in 4:3


But they cannot replace the bits chopped off when 4:3 footage is shown
on a program made in 16:9


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Kennedy McEwen July 27th 06 12:39 AM

Film4 Cropping Films
 
In article , Gendy
writes
This has been thoroughly discussed on DigitalSpy...for goodness sake....this
channel is FREE !!!!!.....it used to cost £6 a month.....never look a
gifthorse in the mouth....

To quote Groucho Marx, as he already appeared in this thread:
"ALWAYS look a gift-horse in the mouth - its dentistry bills could ruin
you!"
--
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Yes, Socrates himself is particularly missed;
A lovely little thinker, but a bugger when he's ****ed.
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David Taylor July 27th 06 04:25 PM

Film4 Cropping Films
 
On 2006-07-25, Gendy wrote:
This has been thoroughly discussed on DigitalSpy...


Your point being?

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Johnny B Good July 28th 06 12:42 AM

Film4 Cropping Films
 
The message
from David Taylor contains these words:

On 2006-07-25, Gendy wrote:
This has been thoroughly discussed on DigitalSpy...


Your point being?


I'd have thought that was pretty obvious.

As it says on the tin, "This has been thoroughly discussed on DigitalSpy...".

Seemed a pretty unambiguous statement to me.

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Johnny B Good July 28th 06 06:43 PM

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The message
from Mike Henry contains
these words:

In , Johnny B Good
wrote:
The message
from David Taylor contains these words:

On 2006-07-25, Gendy wrote:
This has been thoroughly discussed on DigitalSpy...


Your point being?


I'd have thought that was pretty obvious.

As it says on the tin, "This has been thoroughly discussed on
DigitalSpy...".

Seemed a pretty unambiguous statement to me.


The fact that some other people have had another discussion somewhere
else isn't in this case pertinent to this discussion, here in
uk.tech.digital-tv. Any topic that comes up on usenet is likely to also
be discussed elsewhere. If it is pretty obvious then it is also pretty
irrelevant!


Fair enough! That being the case, why bother asking the question at
all? If I felt that way, I just wouldn't have bothered asking what I
already knew to be a pointless question. :-)

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ThePunisher July 28th 06 10:10 PM

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"Bazzer Smith" wrote in message

"ThePunisher" wrote in message
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"Bazzer Smith" wrote in message

"{{{{{Welcome}}}}}" wrote in
message .uk...
Thus spaketh Bazzer Smith:
"{{{{{Welcome}}}}}"
wrote in message
.uk...
I am disgusted that Film4 are now cropping films from
2.35:1 or 1.85:1 to 16:9.


What do you think about 4:3 programs being cropped to 16:9?

You gotta love widescreen, best thing since the plague.



I refuse to watch 4:3 programmes cropped to 16:9 too.

Kind of limits your viewing choces somewhat, losing
50 years or so of broadcsting.


Why would that be? all widescreen tvs can display 4:3 pictures in
4:3


But they cannot replace the bits chopped off when 4:3 footage is shown
on a program made in 16:9


What the **** are you on about? can any tv do this?

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Bazzer Smith July 29th 06 02:40 AM

Film4 Cropping Films
 

"ThePunisher" wrote in message
...
"Bazzer Smith" wrote in message

"ThePunisher" wrote in message
...
"Bazzer Smith" wrote in message

"{{{{{Welcome}}}}}" wrote in
message .uk...
Thus spaketh Bazzer Smith:
"{{{{{Welcome}}}}}"
wrote in message
.uk...
I am disgusted that Film4 are now cropping films from
2.35:1 or 1.85:1 to 16:9.


What do you think about 4:3 programs being cropped to 16:9?

You gotta love widescreen, best thing since the plague.



I refuse to watch 4:3 programmes cropped to 16:9 too.

Kind of limits your viewing choces somewhat, losing
50 years or so of broadcsting.

Why would that be? all widescreen tvs can display 4:3 pictures in
4:3


But they cannot replace the bits chopped off when 4:3 footage is shown
on a program made in 16:9


What the **** are you on about? can any tv do this?



I don't know whether you are trying to make me or you sound like a fool.
Either way I think you have suceeeded :O)



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Nick Austin August 26th 06 02:40 PM

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On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 19:47:28 GMT, "{{{{{Welcome}}}}}"
wrote:

Thus spaketh Bazzer Smith:
"{{{{{Welcome}}}}}" wrote

I refuse to watch 4:3 programmes cropped to 16:9 too.


Kind of limits your viewing choces somewhat, losing
50 years or so of broadcsting.



Not really as most 4:3 programmes aren't cropped to 16:9 they are
broadcast as they should be in 4:3.


Certain digital channels (e.g. CBBC, BBC THREE and NEWS24) are fixed
widescreen only. These channels usually crop 4:3 programmes
so that they can be shown as a shallow pillarbox in a 16:9 frame.

Nick.


André Coutanche August 26th 06 02:45 PM

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Nick Austin wrote:

Certain digital channels (e.g. CBBC, BBC THREE and NEWS24) are fixed
widescreen only. These channels usually crop 4:3 programmes
so that they can be shown as a shallow pillarbox in a 16:9 frame.


I hesitate to join a thread which involves "Bazzer Smith", but this
isn't quite right, is it? Yes, all the BBC channels transmit 4:3
material differently from the non-BBC channels, but the 4:3 material
is shown in its entirety, padded out with black bars on each side to
fill a 16:9 frame. It isn't cropped.

André Coutanche




if August 28th 06 02:25 PM

Film4 Cropping Films
 
"André Coutanche" wrote:

Nick Austin wrote:

Certain digital channels (e.g. CBBC, BBC THREE and NEWS24) are fixed
widescreen only. These channels usually crop 4:3 programmes so that
they can be shown as a shallow pillarbox in a 16:9 frame.


I hesitate to join a thread which involves "Bazzer Smith", but this
isn't quite right, is it? Yes, all the BBC channels transmit 4:3
material differently from the non-BBC channels, but the 4:3 material
is shown in its entirety, padded out with black bars on each side to
fill a 16:9 frame. It isn't cropped.


Not CBBC: they top and tail the picture to 14:9 format and then pillarbox
that. Even on analogue, where you end up with the top and bottom of the
picture replaced by black bars on a 4:3 set (this really annoys me). I
wouldn't be surprised to learn that some other channels did the same thing.

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