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Mark Lloyd July 22nd 06 12:18 AM

DISH Network/DirecTV Merger?
 
On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 11:05:21 -0500, "Thomas T. Veldhouse"
wrote:

In alt.dbs.echostar Mark Lloyd wrote:

Indeed. My cable company, Comcast offers the Motorola 3412. The machine is a
horrible piece of **** .. second to none.


And people have said that about the upcoming (non-TiVo) DVR that
DirecTV is going to use instead of the HR10-250.


Who said it? It hasn't been released yet. I am surprised it can be declared
POS before it has been released.


As I understand, it's an extrapolation of a current trend relating to
the quality of DirecTV equipment.


Maybe so. Mainly I'd be worried they'd insist on messing with my
computer, like StarBand did. That was a good thing about Cox cable,
the installation WAS as simple as what I said (no software came with
the modem other than a USB driver, which I never used).


Neither Comcast nor QWest gave a hoot about my computer or network. I was
left with a self-install kit in both cases [with QWest, everything was just
mailed to me] and I hooked it up myself. I disguarded their self-install kit.
Considering Verizon is another ILEC like QWest, I would be surprised if you
need to worry about a thing.


Sounds good.


What about static makes it so attractive? Also, there's claims that
dynamic helps you avoid malicious hackers.


I run a server. Nothing big. To keep domain names mapped to the network, I
need a special service to maintain it when setup on a dynamic IP address [like
with Comcast].


That would be another possible point of failure.

Also, with a static routed subnet (I had a /30), I was able to
have reverse DNS entries setup that was great for sending mail directly [I now
use smtp.comcast.net] as a relay.


Do you consider use of that trademark to be appropriate in that case?


In advertising, perhaps. In general converation, such as this, I don't
believe thinking twice about capitalization as part of the trademark is useful
or relavent.


I try to do things correctly. In the case of a trademark, the owner
determines that.


Also, what is a misspelling of that trademark supposed to be
appropriate for? If it was a generic word, it'd be "tivo" (and that
isn't right either, the generic thing is a DVR or PVR).


DirecTivo isn't valid either, but it is in common use never-the-less.


Of course, "common" doesn't equal "right".

BTW, What do you consider to be valid for "DirecTivo".
--
Mark Lloyd
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"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what
to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb
contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin

Bill R July 22nd 06 01:35 AM

DISH Network/DirecTV Merger?
 
Murdoch Says Climate Favors DirecTV-EchoStar Union
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...Ll0&refer=home

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Everett M. Greene July 22nd 06 05:12 PM

DISH Network/DirecTV Merger?
 
"Little Sir Echo" writes:
On 21-Jul-2006, "Thomas T. Veldhouse" wrote:

[snip]
In short, if you want a reliable warning, get a weather radio. If
you want a warning from TV [assuming you even watch it live], then
you need OTA or Cable. I do like that Weather Channel on cable is
targeted locally.


I DO have a weather radio and use it, but not everyone does or even has
a weather radio.

Local OTA (on one channel here) usually provides an up-to-the-minute
graphic indicating exactly where the storm is--even showing streets in
some cases--and I watch that in addition to listening to my weather
radio--which does not provide such detail.

However, my comment relates to the fact that during a violent storm the
other evening all DISH (including LIL presumably) was gone and I
expected that. So I went to OTA local channels and was surprised to find
that none of the local OTA HD channels (which are all digital) could be
received (signal level below 49%) but the local OTA analog channels were
coming in fine. So I watched the progress of the storm on a local OTA
analog channel.

Thus my comment: When everything OTA is digital (and there is no longer
any OTA analog) will I be without satellite reception (including LIL)
and also all OTA reception during a storm?


The terrestial broadcast stations are currently running
paired channels so that they can install and test DTV
equipment. Sometime in the ill-defined (and redefined
at the whim of Congress and the FCC), the stations have
to select which of the channels will be their primary
and only channel in the future and relinguish the other.
So your experience at the moment may not represent what
will happen after the DTV transition is complete.

But DTV does have the strength and weakness of being an
all-or-nothing medium. Depending on how close you are
to the ragged edge of the cliff, reception may go to
the nothing phase just as you may need it most.

In other words, no tv reception during storms. Or is my situation
unique?

If not, has the loss of analog OTA TV as a means of issuing weather
information during a storm been taken into account in the push for an
all-digital future?


Using local TV stations as an outlet for emergency warning
method is a useful adjunct to getting the word out. If
people happen to be watching the stations at the time, fine.
If they're not, they're no worse off.

Now about tsunami warnings...

Thomas T. Veldhouse July 22nd 06 11:51 PM

DISH Network/DirecTV Merger?
 
In alt.dbs.echostar Mark Lloyd wrote:

Of course, "common" doesn't equal "right".

BTW, What do you consider to be valid for "DirecTivo".


The DVR that I had said something like "DirecTV DVR with Tivo". The model
number is HDVR2, but it was updated via software to HDVR3.

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Bob Nielsen July 23rd 06 01:16 AM

DISH Network/DirecTV Merger?
 
On Sat, 22 Jul 2006 17:51:29 -0500, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:

In alt.dbs.echostar Mark Lloyd wrote:

Of course, "common" doesn't equal "right".

BTW, What do you consider to be valid for "DirecTivo".


The DVR that I had said something like "DirecTV DVR with Tivo". The model
number is HDVR2, but it was updated via software to HDVR3.


A later updated reverted to HDVR2.



Zymergy July 24th 06 04:41 PM

Zymurgy [was DISH Network/DirecTV Merger?...Crossposter Bill R]
 
"Thomas T. Veldhouse" wrote in message
...
In alt.dbs.directv Zymergy wrote:

A p.s. to above.
If you build a new house make sure you ask them to run electric wires
seperate from Audio/Video cables. I know not everyone is well educated
but
damn. I had to make DTV guy pull 50ft of wire he ran because he ran it
with all the electric wires. And he looked at me like I was crazy. I
don't
care how insulated it is I don't want it run that way. They used cheap
r6
wire to begin with. Hell I broke a line just putting a new fitting on
the
end.


Curious, did you pick your name to honor the art of brewing beer? If so,
then
you should be spelling it Zymurgy. I wouldn't normally pick on this ..
but I
am a homebrewer and quite familiar :-)

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Thomas T. Veldhouse
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Yes, and no. Yes it derived from Zymurgy---a friend was using that name
(also a brewer) and I chose to offset it with the "e". and use it for online
gaming. I've kinda kept it ever since. I don't brew, but i like to drink!!
:)




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