BBC Points-Of-View Promise on DOGs - Is my recollection correct?
 

Can anyone confirm whether my recollection of events around the time of
the introduction of digital satellite is correct:

I seem to remember that when digital satellite was introduced the BBC
put DOGS on BBC 1 and BBC 2. There was then a mass of complaints to
the BBC Show "Points of View" (hosted by Anne Robinson at the time)
asking for the DOGs to be removed and after a couple of weeks or so the
BBC bowed to public pressure and did this and a statement was made on
Points Of View saying that DOGs would not be re-introduced on BBC1 and
BBC2.

1. Did I dream this or does anyone else remember this happening?
2. Did anyone record the POV show where this promised was made?

The reason I ask is that:
- This shows that consumers don't like DOGs (as they BBC seems to
deny this)
- The BBC do seem to be going back on their promise as there are now
sometimes DOGS on BBC 2 (for example 'BBC 4 on BBC 2)
- This shows the effectiveness of mass complaints

Cheers,


David

BBC Points-Of-View Promise on DOGs - Is my recollection correct?
 

BBC Points-Of-View Promise on DOGs - Is my recollection correct?
 

wrote in message
oups.com...
Can anyone confirm whether my recollection of events around the time of
the introduction of digital satellite is correct:

I seem to remember that when digital satellite was introduced the BBC
put DOGS on BBC 1 and BBC 2. There was then a mass of complaints to
the BBC Show "Points of View" (hosted by Anne Robinson at the time)
asking for the DOGs to be removed and after a couple of weeks or so the
BBC bowed to public pressure and did this and a statement was made on
Points Of View saying that DOGs would not be re-introduced on BBC1 and
BBC2.

1. Did I dream this or does anyone else remember this happening?
2. Did anyone record the POV show where this promised was made?

The reason I ask is that:
- This shows that consumers don't like DOGs (as they BBC seems to
deny this)
- The BBC do seem to be going back on their promise as there are now
sometimes DOGS on BBC 2 (for example 'BBC 4 on BBC 2)
- This shows the effectiveness of mass complaints

Cheers,


David




Firstly I will not pay the TV Licence whilst the BBC uses DOGs nor watch DOG
disfigured services.

Secondly, I did watch 2 BBC FLAW shows this week on BBC TWO and there was no
DOG ****.

I expect the BBC will DOG these channels eventually and the BBC actively
chooses to ignore the wishes of the 30% of the population who do not want
DOGs.

I take great comfort in knowing that as the BBC has said my wishes and
tastes will be ignored and there is nothing to discuss about the matter, I
have not paid the BBC for 3 years.

The BBC is in denial of the truth of the issue and operates a policy of
stonewalling complaints, denying access to research and data, and refusing
to implement sensible alternative strategies to solving the various
problems.

****'em.

BBC Points-Of-View Promise on DOGs - Is my recollection correct?
 

wrote in message
oups.com...
Can anyone confirm whether my recollection of events around the time of
the introduction of digital satellite is correct:

I seem to remember that when digital satellite was introduced the BBC
put DOGS on BBC 1 and BBC 2. There was then a mass of complaints to
the BBC Show "Points of View" (hosted by Anne Robinson at the time)
asking for the DOGs to be removed and after a couple of weeks or so the
BBC bowed to public pressure and did this and a statement was made on
Points Of View saying that DOGs would not be re-introduced on BBC1 and
BBC2.

1. Did I dream this or does anyone else remember this happening?
2. Did anyone record the POV show where this promised was made?

The reason I ask is that:
- This shows that consumers don't like DOGs (as they BBC seems to
deny this)
- The BBC do seem to be going back on their promise as there are now
sometimes DOGS on BBC 2 (for example 'BBC 4 on BBC 2)
- This shows the effectiveness of mass complaints

Cheers,


David



This website covered the 1998 issues very well:

http://625.uk.com/dogwatch/

BBC Points-Of-View Promise on DOGs - Is my recollection correct?
 

"Heracles Pollux" wrote:

I expect the BBC will DOG these channels eventually and the BBC actively
chooses to ignore the wishes of the 30% of the population who do not want
DOGs.

Out of curiosity, where'd that figure come from?

--
Dave Farrance

BBC Points-Of-View Promise on DOGs - Is my recollection correct?
 

"Dave Farrance" wrote in message
...
"Heracles Pollux" wrote:

I expect the BBC will DOG these channels eventually and the BBC actively
chooses to ignore the wishes of the 30% of the population who do not want
DOGs.

Out of curiosity, where'd that figure come from?

--
Dave Farrance


The BBC.

BBC Points-Of-View Promise on DOGs - Is my recollection correct?
 

I seem to remember that when digital satellite was introduced the BBC
put DOGS on BBC 1 and BBC 2. There was then a mass of complaints to
the BBC Show "Points of View" (hosted by Anne Robinson at the time)
asking for the DOGs to be removed and after a couple of weeks or so the
BBC bowed to public pressure and did this and a statement was made on
Points Of View saying that DOGs would not be re-introduced on BBC1 and
BBC2.

David


.....DOGS???

BBC Points-Of-View Promise on DOGs - Is my recollection correct?
 

In ,
me2 wrote:

I seem to remember that when digital satellite was introduced the BBC
put DOGS on BBC 1 and BBC 2. There was then a mass of complaints to
the BBC Show "Points of View" (hosted by Anne Robinson at the time)
asking for the DOGs to be removed and after a couple of weeks or so the
BBC bowed to public pressure and did this and a statement was made on
Points Of View saying that DOGs would not be re-introduced on BBC1 and
BBC2.

David


....DOGS???

Digital Originated Graphics.
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BBC Points-Of-View Promise on DOGs - Is my recollection correct?
 

"Heracles Pollux" wrote:

"Dave Farrance" wrote
"Heracles Pollux" wrote:

I expect the BBC will DOG these channels eventually and the BBC actively
chooses to ignore the wishes of the 30% of the population who do not want
DOGs.

Out of curiosity, where'd that figure come from?

The BBC.

OK. Since the BBC seem to be DOG zealots (seen News24 lately?), what
would you bet that the question was asked in a way that confused the
screen-burning DOG with the desirable channel-ident that most TVs now
display for a few seconds after changing the channel?

--
Dave Farrance

BBC Points-Of-View Promise on DOGs - Is my recollection correct?
 

"Dave Farrance" wrote in message
...
"Heracles Pollux" wrote:

"Dave Farrance" wrote
"Heracles Pollux" wrote:

I expect the BBC will DOG these channels eventually and the BBC actively
chooses to ignore the wishes of the 30% of the population who do not
want
DOGs.

Out of curiosity, where'd that figure come from?

The BBC.

OK. Since the BBC seem to be DOG zealots (seen News24 lately?), what
would you bet that the question was asked in a way that confused the
screen-burning DOG with the desirable channel-ident that most TVs now
display for a few seconds after changing the channel?

--
Dave Farrance


Many people have asked to see the BBC's "research". Some have submitted FoI
Act requests. The BBC has always refused to release the information.

When BBC THREE published a story on BBC NEWS last year, the BBC Editorial
rules required that they "see" the research the BBC quoted. They then
quickly removed and buried the story to prevent licence fee payers from
tracing the evidence.

BBC Points-Of-View Promise on DOGs - Is my recollection correct?
 

"me2" wrote in message
...

I seem to remember that when digital satellite was introduced the BBC
put DOGS on BBC 1 and BBC 2. There was then a mass of complaints to
the BBC Show "Points of View" (hosted by Anne Robinson at the time)
asking for the DOGs to be removed and after a couple of weeks or so the
BBC bowed to public pressure and did this and a statement was made on
Points Of View saying that DOGs would not be re-introduced on BBC1 and
BBC2.

David


....DOGS???


DOGs = Our channel is not unique, competes with commercial satellite
channels, does not carry distinct content, and our customers are forced to
pay for us by bundle.

BBC Points-Of-View Promise on DOGs - Is my recollection correct?
 

"Heracles Pollux" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
oups.com...
Can anyone confirm whether my recollection of events around the time of
the introduction of digital satellite is correct:

I seem to remember that when digital satellite was introduced the BBC
put DOGS on BBC 1 and BBC 2. There was then a mass of complaints to
the BBC Show "Points of View" (hosted by Anne Robinson at the time)
asking for the DOGs to be removed and after a couple of weeks or so the
BBC bowed to public pressure and did this and a statement was made on
Points Of View saying that DOGs would not be re-introduced on BBC1 and
BBC2.

1. Did I dream this or does anyone else remember this happening?
2. Did anyone record the POV show where this promised was made?

The reason I ask is that:
- This shows that consumers don't like DOGs (as they BBC seems to
deny this)
- The BBC do seem to be going back on their promise as there are now
sometimes DOGS on BBC 2 (for example 'BBC 4 on BBC 2)
- This shows the effectiveness of mass complaints

Cheers,


David




Firstly I will not pay the TV Licence whilst the BBC uses DOGs nor watch
DOG disfigured services.


You plan to get around that how?

BBC Points-Of-View Promise on DOGs - Is my recollection correct?
 

In message , Heracles Pollux
writes
DOGs = Our channel is not unique, competes with commercial satellite
channels, does not carry distinct content, and our customers are forced
to pay for us by bundle.


On a similar theme, is it possible to 'turn off' the lady doing the sign
language? She totally ruined a film on C4 I videoed in the early hours
last week. :-(

Bob

BBC Points-Of-View Promise on DOGs - Is my recollection correct?
 

In article ,
Bob Adams wrote:
In message , Heracles Pollux
writes
DOGs = Our channel is not unique, competes with commercial satellite
channels, does not carry distinct content, and our customers are forced
to pay for us by bundle.


On a similar theme, is it possible to 'turn off' the lady doing the sign
language? She totally ruined a film on C4 I videoed in the early hours
last week. :-(

I think these are all repeats. Just record the one that isn't repeated with
the signing - or use it to learn signing! ;-)

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BBC Points-Of-View Promise on DOGs - Is my recollection correct?
 

"Bob Adams" wrote in message
...
In message , Heracles Pollux
writes
DOGs = Our channel is not unique, competes with commercial satellite
channels, does not carry distinct content, and our customers are forced
to pay for us by bundle.


On a similar theme, is it possible to 'turn off' the lady doing the sign
language? She totally ruined a film on C4 I videoed in the early hours
last week. :-(



it's PC gone mad - imagine if you couldnt turn off the subtitles....



--
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A french man who wanted a castle threw his cat into a pond.
http://www.audioscrobbler.com/user/dsbmusic/

BBC Points-Of-View Promise on DOGs - Is my recollection correct?
 

Bob Adams wrote:
In message , Heracles Pollux
writes
DOGs = Our channel is not unique, competes with commercial satellite
channels, does not carry distinct content, and our customers are
forced to pay for us by bundle.


On a similar theme, is it possible to 'turn off' the lady doing the
sign language? She totally ruined a film on C4 I videoed in the early
hours last week. :-(

Bob

No, that's part of the broadcast signal and would be there even if you had
received it via terrestial analog. Usually such films are broadcast at
antisocial hours (like the one you recorded) and generally they are repeats
of something broadcast 'normally' earlier.

The broadcast companies are required by law to have a certain percentage of
programmes signed in this way.

Just consider yourself lucky that you don't need such services and make sure
you select the version without signing in future!

BBC Points-Of-View Promise on DOGs - Is my recollection correct?
 

BBC Points-Of-View Promise on DOGs - Is my recollection correct?
 

On Sun, 16 Jul 2006 23:04:44 +0100, Owain
wrote:

the dog from that film you saw wrote:
On a similar theme, is it possible to 'turn off' the lady doing the sign
language? She totally ruined a film on C4 I videoed in the early hours
last week. :-(

Not yet.

it's PC gone mad - imagine if you couldnt turn off the subtitles....

If you watch Gaelic television, you can't - it's all shown with
(English) in-vision subtitles

And often done in such a way (smaller characters than normally used
for subtitles and no background to them) that my mother and anyone
else with similar poor eyesight can't read them anyway. It probably
won't last much longer anyway as STV seem to be hellbent on abandoning
local material apart from news and adverts and just acting as a
repeater station for ITV1.
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In article ,
the dog from that film you saw
wrote:

I recall the newspaper story from a few years back where the BBC couldnt
find enough gaelic speaking actors.

While working on the BBC stand at the Royal Highland Show and sitting in
the "rest caravan" a young lady from BBC Radio Nan Gaedheal used our phone
to send a report back to Inverness. A few minutes of apparently fluent
Gaelic was followed by a curse and "I've forgotten the word for 'Reserve
Price'." She got a prompt down the phone and started again.

--
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Using a RISC OS5 computer

BBC Points-Of-View Promise on DOGs - Is my recollection correct?
 

"Andrew" wrote in message
...
Bob Adams wrote:
In message , Heracles Pollux
writes
DOGs = Our channel is not unique, competes with commercial
satellite
channels, does not carry distinct content, and our customers are
forced to pay for us by bundle.


On a similar theme, is it possible to 'turn off' the lady doing the
sign language? She totally ruined a film on C4 I videoed in the
early
hours last week. :-(

Bob

No, that's part of the broadcast signal and would be there even if
you had received it via terrestial analog. Usually such films are
broadcast at antisocial hours (like the one you recorded) and
generally they are repeats of something broadcast 'normally'
earlier.

snip


That may be correct in theory. However, I have noticed several weeks
ago that the repeat of Home & Away on Channel 5 at 12 noon, Monday to
Friday, included sign language on Sky Digital (105) - but no sign
language on Terrestrial TV. I don't know whether that was a
"one-off".

BBC Points-Of-View Promise on DOGs - Is my recollection correct?
 

"Bob Lucas" wrote in message
...

"Andrew" wrote in message
...
Bob Adams wrote:
In message , Heracles Pollux
writes
DOGs = Our channel is not unique, competes with commercial satellite
channels, does not carry distinct content, and our customers are
forced to pay for us by bundle.

On a similar theme, is it possible to 'turn off' the lady doing the
sign language? She totally ruined a film on C4 I videoed in the early
hours last week. :-(

No, that's part of the broadcast signal and would be there even if you
had received it via terrestial analog. Usually such films are broadcast
at antisocial hours (like the one you recorded) and generally they are
repeats of something broadcast 'normally' earlier.

That may be correct in theory. However, I have noticed several weeks ago
that the repeat of Home & Away on Channel 5 at 12 noon, Monday to Friday,
included sign language on Sky Digital (105) - but no sign language on
Terrestrial TV. I don't know whether that was a "one-off".

It's fairly common for programmes to be sent out signed on digital and
unsigned on analogue. Gives you a choice unless you are digital only.

--
Max Demian

BBC Points-Of-View Promise on DOGs - Is my recollection correct?
 

Adrian A wrote:

wrote:
Can anyone confirm whether my recollection of events around the time
of the introduction of digital satellite is correct:

I seem to remember that when digital satellite was introduced the BBC
put DOGS on BBC 1 and BBC 2. There was then a mass of complaints to
the BBC Show "Points of View" (hosted by Anne Robinson at the time)
asking for the DOGs to be removed and after a couple of weeks or so
the BBC bowed to public pressure and did this and a statement was
made on Points Of View saying that DOGs would not be re-introduced on
BBC1 and BBC2.

1. Did I dream this or does anyone else remember this happening?
2. Did anyone record the POV show where this promised was made?

The reason I ask is that:
- This shows that consumers don't like DOGs (as they BBC seems to
deny this)
- The BBC do seem to be going back on their promise as there are now
sometimes DOGS on BBC 2 (for example 'BBC 4 on BBC 2)
- This shows the effectiveness of mass complaints

Cheers,


David

I know what you described happened on terrestial digital, I can only assume
the same applied to satellite at the time.
--
Adrian
Thanks for the replies everyone. It seems to topic has gone a bit off
track, but it seems one person (Adrian) has confirmed my re-collection
is correct at least for terrestrial digital TV. Now I wonder if there
is some kind of archive of broadcast TV, in a similar way to the fact
that there are newspaper archives at the library?

David

BBC Points-Of-View Promise on DOGs - Is my recollection correct?
 

Phil Cook wrote:

wrote:

- The BBC do seem to be going back on their promise as there are now
sometimes DOGS on BBC 2 (for example 'BBC 4 on BBC 2)

I have seen BBC 2 DOGed in the very early morning, indeed I have just
checked and there it is: "BBC TWO" on the overnight Workskills
programe.
--
Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"

Such is public distaste for DOGS I suspect it won't be long before you
can buy a device that digitally edits out the logo, filling in the
missing parts of the picture by 'best guessing' the content. I
understand that this technique is used to fill in the gaps when
restoring old films. I'm sure some bright spark can make a fortune by
manufacturing such a DOG remover.

David

BBC Points-Of-View Promise on DOGs - Is my recollection correct?
 

Dave wrote:

Thanks for the replies everyone. It seems to topic has gone a bit off
track, but it seems one person (Adrian) has confirmed my re-collection
is correct at least for terrestrial digital TV. Now I wonder if there
is some kind of archive of broadcast TV, in a similar way to the fact
that there are newspaper archives at the library?

from...

http://www.bfi.org.uk/nftva/enquiries.html

"The National Film and Television Archive has recorded all programmes
transmitted on BBC1 and BBC2 since August 1990"

How you would find it is a different matter!

Someone at http://logofreetv.org/ might have a copy. Try asking in the
forum.

Cheers,
David.

BBC Points-Of-View Promise on DOGs - Is my recollection correct?
 

Max Demian wrote:

It's fairly common for programmes to be sent out signed on digital
and unsigned on analogue. Gives you a choice unless you are digital
only.

Am I understanding you correctly? Are you saying that the *same*
programme, e.g. on BBC1 at 0200, will be signed on BBC1 digital and
unsigned on BBC1 analogue?

André Coutanche

BBC Points-Of-View Promise on DOGs - Is my recollection correct?
 

André Coutanche wrote:
Max Demian wrote:

It's fairly common for programmes to be sent out signed on digital
and unsigned on analogue. Gives you a choice unless you are digital
only.

Am I understanding you correctly? Are you saying that the *same*
programme, e.g. on BBC1 at 0200, will be signed on BBC1 digital and
unsigned on BBC1 analogue?

0200 is sometimes "sign zone", and signed on both.

However, some repeats - even some in the daytime - on most (all?) PSB
channels carry signing in-vision on DTT, but not on analogue.

Cheers,
David.

BBC Points-Of-View Promise on DOGs - Is my recollection correct?
 

BBC Points-Of-View Promise on DOGs - Is my recollection correct?
 

"André Coutanche" wrote in message
...
Max Demian wrote:

It's fairly common for programmes to be sent out signed on digital
and unsigned on analogue. Gives you a choice unless you are digital only.

Am I understanding you correctly? Are you saying that the *same*
programme, e.g. on BBC1 at 0200, will be signed on BBC1 digital and
unsigned on BBC1 analogue?



happens sometimes.
a couple of years back there was a prime time 9pm show on channel 4 (sex
and the city?) which was signed on digital but not analogue.
after 2 weeks the sign language mysteriously disappeared.



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BBC Points-Of-View Promise on DOGs - Is my recollection correct?
 

Dave wrote:
Such is public distaste for DOGS I suspect it won't be long before you
can buy a device that digitally edits out the logo, filling in the
missing parts of the picture by 'best guessing' the content. I
understand that this technique is used to fill in the gaps when
restoring old films. I'm sure some bright spark can make a fortune by
manufacturing such a DOG remover.

I'm surprised this hasn't already been incorporated into decoders. If the
technology became widespread it might even hasten the demise of the wretched
things, to everyone's satisfaction apart from a handful of dimwitted TV
executives.

BBC Points-Of-View Promise on DOGs - Is my recollection correct?
 

Hercule ******** wrote:
Firstly I will not pay the TV Licence whilst the BBC uses DOGs nor
watch DOG disfigured services.

That's your latest excuse for your criminality, is it?

Have you told the electors yet?

BBC Points-Of-View Promise on DOGs - Is my recollection correct?
 

"Pyriform" wrote in message
...
Hercule ******** wrote:
Firstly I will not pay the TV Licence whilst the BBC uses DOGs nor
watch DOG disfigured services.

That's your latest excuse for your criminality, is it?

Have you told the electors yet?




You may call it what you like. I have the cash and they don't, until they
offer services that are not ruined.

BBC Points-Of-View Promise on DOGs - Is my recollection correct?
 

Heracles Pollux wrote:
"Pyriform" wrote
Hercule ******** wrote:
Firstly I will not pay the TV Licence whilst the BBC uses DOGs nor
watch DOG disfigured services.

That's your latest excuse for your criminality, is it?

Have you told the electors yet?

You may call it what you like. I have the cash and they don't, until
they offer services that are not ruined.

Oh, right. So if the BBC removed the DOGs from all their channels, you'd
stop being a thieving scumbag?

No, I thought not.

Have you told the electors yet?

BBC Points-Of-View Promise on DOGs - Is my recollection correct?
 

"Pyriform" wrote in message
...
Heracles Pollux wrote:
"Pyriform" wrote
Hercule ******** wrote:
Firstly I will not pay the TV Licence whilst the BBC uses DOGs nor
watch DOG disfigured services.

That's your latest excuse for your criminality, is it?

Have you told the electors yet?

You may call it what you like. I have the cash and they don't, until
they offer services that are not ruined.

Oh, right. So if the BBC removed the DOGs from all their channels, you'd
stop being a thieving scumbag?

No, I thought not.

Have you told the electors yet?


Kill-filed for being rude.

BBC Points-Of-View Promise on DOGs - Is my recollection correct?
 

Heracles Pollux wrote:
"Pyriform" wrote
Heracles Pollux wrote:
"Pyriform" wrote
Hercule ******** wrote:
Firstly I will not pay the TV Licence whilst the BBC uses DOGs nor
watch DOG disfigured services.

That's your latest excuse for your criminality, is it?

Have you told the electors yet?

You may call it what you like. I have the cash and they don't, until
they offer services that are not ruined.

Oh, right. So if the BBC removed the DOGs from all their channels,
you'd stop being a thieving scumbag?

No, I thought not.

Have you told the electors yet?


Kill-filed for being rude.

The truth hurts, I know.

Kill-filing will not inconvenience me in the slightest. You never provide
satisfactory answers, so my questions might as well be rhetorical. I'll
continue to pose them in order that anyone else reading threads you choose
to contribute to will know the truth. Your silence will provide eloquent
confirmation that I am right!

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Heracles Pollux wrote:
"Pyriform" wrote in message
...
Heracles Pollux wrote:
"Pyriform" wrote
Hercule ******** wrote:
Firstly I will not pay the TV Licence whilst the BBC uses DOGs nor
watch DOG disfigured services.

That's your latest excuse for your criminality, is it?

Have you told the electors yet?

You may call it what you like. I have the cash and they don't, until
they offer services that are not ruined.

Oh, right. So if the BBC removed the DOGs from all their channels,
you'd stop being a thieving scumbag?

No, I thought not.

Have you told the electors yet?


Kill-filed for being rude.

You mean kill-filed for telling the truth.

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"Adrian A" wrote in message
...
Heracles Pollux wrote:
"Pyriform" wrote in message
...
Heracles Pollux wrote:
"Pyriform" wrote
Hercule ******** wrote:
Firstly I will not pay the TV Licence whilst the BBC uses DOGs nor
watch DOG disfigured services.

That's your latest excuse for your criminality, is it?

Have you told the electors yet?

You may call it what you like. I have the cash and they don't, until
they offer services that are not ruined.

Oh, right. So if the BBC removed the DOGs from all their channels,
you'd stop being a thieving scumbag?

No, I thought not.

Have you told the electors yet?


Kill-filed for being rude.

You mean kill-filed for telling the truth.




I'm happy to discuss the issue - unlike the BBC.

However for me to participate, other parties must adhere to a reasonable
standard of civility, courtesy, and politeness.

And let's discuss the truth like gentleman.

BBC Points-Of-View Promise on DOGs - Is my recollection correct?
 

Heracles Pollux wrote:
And let's discuss the truth like gentleman.

That's easy. The truth is that the law of the land (of which you claim to be
"an elected public servant") requires you to purchase a TV licence. You
refuse to do this, citing a whole panoply of excuses - of which your DOG
phobia is only the most recent.

That makes you a criminal. You should tell the electors.

anti BBC tirade
 

"Edster" wrote in message
...
"Pyriform" wrote in message

The truth is that the law of the land (of which you claim to be
"an elected public servant") requires you to purchase a TV licence.

Only if you have a TV or TV signal receiving equipment.



The law may "require" one to purchase a licence.

"Requiring" and doing are separate matters of course.

Generally people pay taxes and fees because they feel a benefit from doing
so outweighing the cost of not doing so. Knowing that were I to pay the BBC,
they would **** it away on Mark Byford, Jonathan Woss, pointless
advertising, their grafitti strewn digital plan, soap operas and tedious
dramas, biased news, politically correct idents, junkettes for their
super-annuated staff, and bidding against other UK broadcasters for rights,
let's just leave this to be a matter for the Courts and "criminal justice
system".

;-)

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On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 16:37:26 GMT, Edster wrote:

"Pyriform" wrote in message

The truth is that the law of the land (of which you claim to be
"an elected public servant") requires you to purchase a TV licence.

Only if you have a TV or TV signal receiving equipment.

.... which has been installed for the relevant purposes, not merely
possessed.
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anti BBC tirade
 

Hi,

Just interested, and apologies if you've answered this elsewhere, but can
you honestly say that you NEVER watch any of BBCs output?

Cheers,

Chris.

"Heracles Pollux" wrote in message
...

"Edster" wrote in message
...
"Pyriform" wrote in message

The truth is that the law of the land (of which you claim to be
"an elected public servant") requires you to purchase a TV licence.

Only if you have a TV or TV signal receiving equipment.



The law may "require" one to purchase a licence.

"Requiring" and doing are separate matters of course.

Generally people pay taxes and fees because they feel a benefit from doing
so outweighing the cost of not doing so. Knowing that were I to pay the
BBC, they would **** it away on Mark Byford, Jonathan Woss, pointless
advertising, their grafitti strewn digital plan, soap operas and tedious
dramas, biased news, politically correct idents, junkettes for their
super-annuated staff, and bidding against other UK broadcasters for
rights, let's just leave this to be a matter for the Courts and "criminal
justice system".

;-)