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Could someone please capture NASA HDTV of Shuttle Launch
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In Europe we have no access to NASA TV, only streaming (128k). I know HDNET broadcasts NASA TV in HD. Is there a NASA/Space fan willing to capture the upcoming launch of the Space Shuttle on July 1st? And post it on a.b.hdtv? Thanks for your time, A space fan |
Could someone please capture NASA HDTV of Shuttle Launch
Bonk wrote:
Hi. In Europe we have no access to NASA TV, only streaming (128k). I know HDNET broadcasts NASA TV in HD. Is there a NASA/Space fan willing to capture the upcoming launch of the Space Shuttle on July 1st? And post it on a.b.hdtv? Thanks for your time, A space fan The launch was cancelled due to the weather..just an FYI Keith http://www.eHDMI.com |
Could someone please capture NASA HDTV of Shuttle Launch
eHDMI wrote:
The launch was cancelled due to the weather..just an FYI Postponed... and again today. Next try on the 4th. |
Could someone please capture NASA HDTV of Shuttle Launch
Bonk wrote:
Hi. In Europe we have no access to NASA TV, only streaming (128k). I know HDNET broadcasts NASA TV in HD. Is there a NASA/Space fan willing to capture the upcoming launch of the Space Shuttle on July 1st? And post it on a.b.hdtv? Thanks for your time, A space fan This is precisely what I was attempting to do when I discovered some of my HD channels are different from others. I can use CapDVHS to grab a transport stream from HDNET, but when I try to convert it to mpeg2 using HDTV2MPEG2, all I get is a black screen. I can convert .ts files from other HDTV channels just fine. HBO for example. But not from HDNET, apparently, nor ABC and perhaps others. I get the .ts file. I can view it with VLC media player, though any motion results in tearing. I can view it with the Nero 7 file viewer, but the sound is choppy, and the video too, I think. I have a question about it on alt.tv.tech.hdtv, but so far no answers. I wish I could figure out what's going on. Obviously I am new to all this, and I'm looking for a foolproof way to store HDTV on my hard drive. -- Bill Anderson I am the Mighty Favog |
Could someone please capture NASA HDTV of Shuttle Launch
On Sun, 02 Jul 2006 18:05:55 -0400, Bill Anderson wrote:
Bonk wrote: [quoted text muted] snip I can use CapDVHS to grab a transport stream from HDNET, but when I try to convert it to mpeg2 using HDTV2MPEG2, all I get is a black screen. HDNet is broadcast in MPEG2. No need to convert. |
Could someone please capture NASA HDTV of Shuttle Launch
yea right wrote:
On Sun, 02 Jul 2006 18:05:55 -0400, Bill Anderson wrote: Bonk wrote: [quoted text muted] snip I can use CapDVHS to grab a transport stream from HDNET, but when I try to convert it to mpeg2 using HDTV2MPEG2, all I get is a black screen. HDNet is broadcast in MPEG2. No need to convert. What I capture a .ts file from HDNET using CapDVHS, the video shows up black with no sound when I try to play it back with most video file players. I can run it through PVAStrumento and get a gorgeous MPEG2 file with the audio stripped out as an av3 file, which makes no sense to me at all. I am in the process of trying to figure out how to make what I get from HDNET playable in an ordinary file player. I may be missing the obvious -- maybe I should just tell CapDVHS to put an .mpg file extension on what it captures from HDNET instead of .ts. I've found I get a much better result with a .ts extension on some cable channels. Some stuff on some channels comes out jumpy. Some stuff comes out black with no sound. Some stuff flashes bright, dim, bright, dim. And some stuff looks just great. I think that simply changing the extension after capture doesn't work at all. I think. Maybe. I dunno. I will try again. For what it's worth, the HD picture from the Kennedy Space Center on HDNET is just stunning. I can't wait to see the launch. I have a house full of people coming over tomorrow to watch the launch (and the July 4 fireworks on the National Mall from the roof of my condo). Gonna be a fun day. I just hope we get to see a launch. I was sitting next to a NASA employee at the Nationals/Marlins game tonight. She got a message on her Blackberry saying we're going to push for launch. Keep your fingers crossed. -- Bill Anderson I am the Mighty Favog |
Could someone please capture NASA HDTV of Shuttle Launch
"yea right" wrote in message ... On Sun, 02 Jul 2006 18:05:55 -0400, Bill Anderson wrote: Bonk wrote: [quoted text muted] snip I can use CapDVHS to grab a transport stream from HDNET, but when I try to convert it to mpeg2 using HDTV2MPEG2, all I get is a black screen. HDNet is broadcast in MPEG2. No need to convert. OK, I have gone back to try again. When I use CapDVHS to grab a transport stream from HDNET, I get a file that plays nicely with VLC Media Player, but only that software. The file won't play with Windows Media Player or any other normal video file player that I have. How can I convert the file to make it playable on ordinary computers with ordinary file player software? Thanks. -- Bill Anderson I am the Mighty Favog |
Could someone please capture NASA HDTV of Shuttle Launch
On Mon, 03 Jul 2006 23:35:15 -0400, Bill Anderson wrote:
"yea right" wrote in message ... [quoted text muted] The file won't play with Windows Media Player or any other normal video file player that I have. Microsoft is unable get media player to play a full res 1920x1080i stream at 19.4Mbs. I hear that Mplayer and winamp can handle this higher res at these bitrates. |
Could someone please capture NASA HDTV of Shuttle Launch
Discovery 'Go' For July 4 Launch
Mission managers have cleared Discovery for launch at 2:38 p.m. EDT on July 4. A day of additional analysis showed that the loss of a small piece of foam from the external tank didn't pose a safety concern for launch. I hope someone manages to record it in HD form HDNET. TS files would be great. Thanks, Bonk "eHDMI" wrote in message oups.com... Bonk wrote: Hi. In Europe we have no access to NASA TV, only streaming (128k). I know HDNET broadcasts NASA TV in HD. Is there a NASA/Space fan willing to capture the upcoming launch of the Space Shuttle on July 1st? And post it on a.b.hdtv? Thanks for your time, A space fan The launch was cancelled due to the weather..just an FYI Keith http://www.eHDMI.com |
Could someone please capture NASA HDTV of Shuttle Launch
Bonk wrote:
Discovery 'Go' For July 4 Launch Mission managers have cleared Discovery for launch at 2:38 p.m. EDT on July 4. A day of additional analysis showed that the loss of a small piece of foam from the external tank didn't pose a safety concern for launch. I hope someone manages to record it in HD form HDNET. TS files would be great. Please respond here on the newsgroup to let me know whether the clip I posted is satisfactory. (I think I used "HDTV Post" or something like that as the sender name.) This is the first time I've ever tried to post a binary. I've downloaded plenty, but last night when I began puzzling through my newsreader software I realized I'd never uploaded any. It took me some time to figure it out, and I'm not sure I got it right. Had to reboot this morning and (I hope) continue about where the upload left off. I have my fingers crossed that the entire effort isn't a waste of time and newsgroup space. The clip is over two gigabytes. It starts about two and a half minutes before launch and continues to the end of the HDNET broadcast. Toward the end when they're repeating video of the launch, there are some great shots from several Hi-Def camera angles -- shots that weren't used during the actual launch. I've seen most of the Shuttle launches -- several in person -- but this was the first time I recall such a clear view of the solids falling away. Very nice. -- Bill Anderson I am the Mighty Favog |
Could someone please capture NASA HDTV of Shuttle Launch
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Could someone please capture NASA HDTV of Shuttle Launch
Gibts denn schon irgendwo im Netz den Shuttle-Launch zum downloaden ?
"Bonk" binkatbinknu schrieb im Newsbeitrag l.nl... Discovery 'Go' For July 4 Launch Mission managers have cleared Discovery for launch at 2:38 p.m. EDT on July 4. A day of additional analysis showed that the loss of a small piece of foam from the external tank didn't pose a safety concern for launch. I hope someone manages to record it in HD form HDNET. TS files would be great. Thanks, Bonk "eHDMI" wrote in message oups.com... Bonk wrote: Hi. In Europe we have no access to NASA TV, only streaming (128k). I know HDNET broadcasts NASA TV in HD. Is there a NASA/Space fan willing to capture the upcoming launch of the Space Shuttle on July 1st? And post it on a.b.hdtv? Thanks for your time, A space fan The launch was cancelled due to the weather..just an FYI Keith http://www.eHDMI.com |
Could someone please capture NASA HDTV of Shuttle Launch
"Bonk" binkatbinknu schrieb im Newsbeitrag l.nl... And post it on a.b.hdtv? Thanks for your time, A space fan Hi All, I have no binary newsgroup. Its very expensive in my country. Can anybody upload /share the discovery launch with me ? Thanks a lot. |
Could someone please capture NASA HDTV of Shuttle Launch
Initech wrote:
On Wed, 05 Jul 2006 15:11:32 GMT, Initech wrote: On 5 Jul 2006 06:46:48 -0700, wrote: Please respond here on the newsgroup to let me know whether the clip I posted is satisfactory. (I think I used "HDTV Post" or something like that as the sender name.) This is the first time I've ever tried to post a binary. I've downloaded plenty, but last night when I began puzzling through my newsreader software I realized I'd never uploaded any. It took me some time to figure it out, and I'm not sure I got it right. Had to reboot this morning and (I hope) continue about where the upload left off. I have my fingers crossed that the entire effort isn't a waste of time and newsgroup space. Easynew's parViewer is showing parts 1, 5, and 12 are missing. I think part 1 was never posted and parts 5 and 12 are incomplete. I don't know if there are enough par files to repair. I'm downloading it now to check. Nevermind. When I posted that, not all the files had made it to the server. Parts 5 and 12 are still incomplete, but there should be enough pars to fix. Thanks for the post. HDNet isn't available from my cable provider. Glad to hear it. When I left the house this morning it was still uploading. If you're seeing SmartPar files now, it must be finished, or nearly finished. I have a slow connection to newsgroups -- my ISP throttles the transfer rate. If I want a fast connection I have to pay extra, and I have more time than money. So uploading has taken a while. I'd be very interested to know 1) whether you can successfully unrar the set; 2) whether I created the Par and Par2 (SmartPar) files properly, and; 3) whether the clip is what you expected. I had to trim out the launch sequence from the original capture, which ran for a couple of hours and was over 13 gigabytes. I believe that in the process I converted the transfer stream clip to mpeg2. The finished clip that I rar-ed looked just great to me, but I'm strictly a novice at all this and I'm not even sure I'm using the proper terminology. Did you get what you hoped for? If I ever do something like this again, I want to be sure I get it right on the first try. Thanks. -- Bill Anderson I am the Mighty Favog |
Could someone please capture NASA HDTV of Shuttle Launch
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Could someone please capture NASA HDTV of Shuttle Launch
Initech wrote:
Everything looks good, including the rar and par files. I normally use Powerpost (YencPowerPostA&A11b.exe) to upload files. It is easier than using Xnews, in my opinion. I upload about 8 GB per month, though I convert the .ts files to XviD before posting. Excellent. I did a lot of guesswork with the rar files, trying to figure out what would be a nominal size for each of the sections. Nearly choked my computer at one point creating a zillion 5K files because I thought I was dealing with kilobytes when I was actually dealing with bytes. After posting some trials to alt.binaries.test, I finally came up with something that I thought looked similar to other video files on the alt.binaries.hdtv newsgroup. I'll look for Powerpost. I am not happy with Xnews or NewsBin, both of which I find very user unfriendly. I never did figure out how to upload with NewsBin. At least with Xnews I lucked into making it work. The video clip is stunning. Choosing 2.5 minutes before launch to start the clip was a very good starting point. Thanks so much for uploading it. And thank you for the response. I can leave it alone now. Hooray. -- Bill Anderson I am the Mighty Favog |
Could someone please capture NASA HDTV of Shuttle Launch
"Max Gerking" schrieb im Newsbeitrag ... "Bonk" binkatbinknu schrieb im Newsbeitrag l.nl... And post it on a.b.hdtv? Thanks for your time, A space fan Hi All, I have no binary newsgroup. Its very expensive in my country. Can anybody upload /share the discovery launch with me ? Thanks a lot. I'll pay 10dollar for the service via paypal. Hope that somebody can share the file now. |
Could someone please capture NASA HDTV of Shuttle Launch
On 2006-07-06 02:21:59 -0700, "Max Gerking" said:
I'll pay 10dollar for the service via paypal. Hope that somebody can share the file now. For an extra $5 you can sign up for a premium usenet service and get it yourself. |
Could someone please capture NASA HDTV of Shuttle Launch
"Bill Anderson" wrote in message
... After posting some trials to alt.binaries.test, I finally came up with something that I thought looked similar to other video files on the alt.binaries.hdtv newsgroup. Earthlink doesn't seem to carry alt.binaries.hdtv, and I can't find it on Google News either. Can anyone recommend a public server that carries it? -- Gerry |
Could someone please capture NASA HDTV of Shuttle Launch
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Could someone please capture NASA HDTV of Shuttle Launch
"Edgar J. Hoover"
For an extra $5 you can sign up for a premium usenet service and get it yourself. I dont trust usenet services. I can give you a ftp account on my domain, where you can upload the packages. |
Could someone please capture NASA HDTV of Shuttle Launch
On 2006-07-06 10:54:38 -0700, "Max Gerking" said:
"Edgar J. Hoover" For an extra $5 you can sign up for a premium usenet service and get it yourself. I dont trust usenet services. I can give you a ftp account on my domain, where you can upload the packages. And you think FTP is any safer...good luck. |
Could someone please capture NASA HDTV of Shuttle Launch
Max Gerking wrote:
"Edgar J. Hoover" For an extra $5 you can sign up for a premium usenet service and get it yourself. I dont trust usenet services. I can give you a ftp account on my domain, where you can upload the packages. Give me access to your ftp site and I will upload a short version. -- Bill Anderson I am the Mighty Favog |
Could someone please capture NASA HDTV of Shuttle Launch
Hi Bill,
Thank you very much for taking the effort! I'm downloading it now. I really appreciate it, can't wait to view it on my PLasma. Steven Bink http://bink.nu Amsterdam The Netherlands wrote in message ups.com... Bonk wrote: Discovery 'Go' For July 4 Launch Mission managers have cleared Discovery for launch at 2:38 p.m. EDT on July 4. A day of additional analysis showed that the loss of a small piece of foam from the external tank didn't pose a safety concern for launch. I hope someone manages to record it in HD form HDNET. TS files would be great. Please respond here on the newsgroup to let me know whether the clip I posted is satisfactory. (I think I used "HDTV Post" or something like that as the sender name.) This is the first time I've ever tried to post a binary. I've downloaded plenty, but last night when I began puzzling through my newsreader software I realized I'd never uploaded any. It took me some time to figure it out, and I'm not sure I got it right. Had to reboot this morning and (I hope) continue about where the upload left off. I have my fingers crossed that the entire effort isn't a waste of time and newsgroup space. The clip is over two gigabytes. It starts about two and a half minutes before launch and continues to the end of the HDNET broadcast. Toward the end when they're repeating video of the launch, there are some great shots from several Hi-Def camera angles -- shots that weren't used during the actual launch. I've seen most of the Shuttle launches -- several in person -- but this was the first time I recall such a clear view of the solids falling away. Very nice. -- Bill Anderson I am the Mighty Favog |
Could someone please capture NASA HDTV of Shuttle Launch
Hello again,
whats the different between these files: 804,1 K Shuttle Launch 4 July 2006 contd. - File 01 of 19 - yEnc "shuttle_launch_ and these files: 804,1 K Shuttle Launch 4 July 2006 - File 01 of 37 - yEnc "shuttle_launch_ I've only 5GB traffic volume. |
Could someone please capture NASA HDTV of Shuttle Launch
Max Gerking wrote:
Hello again, whats the different between these files: 804,1 K Shuttle Launch 4 July 2006 contd. - File 01 of 19 - yEnc "shuttle_launch_ and these files: 804,1 K Shuttle Launch 4 July 2006 - File 01 of 37 - yEnc "shuttle_launch_ I've only 5GB traffic volume. There are 37 files. In the middle of the upload I had to reboot. So there are two sequences of files that begin with 01. The filenames for the second sequence include an abbreviation for "continued." Look at the last part of the filenames and you'll see that the filenames are different from those in the first sequence. -- Bill Anderson I am the Mighty Favog |
Could someone please capture NASA HDTV of Shuttle Launch
Bonk wrote: Hi Bill, Thank you very much for taking the effort! I'm downloading it now. I really appreciate it, can't wait to view it on my PLasma. You are very welcome. Actually, I've enjoyed learning how (or attempting to learn how) to post large binaries. The process even prompted me to subscribe to Giganews so I could have a fast connection to newsgroups. Just $13 a month for two gigabytes of downloads per month. The problem is that at these new fast speeds, I probably downloaded a fourth of that last night. I may need to sign up for unlimited. We'll see. -- Bill Anderson I am the Mighty Favog |
Could someone please capture NASA HDTV of Shuttle Launch
Del Mibbler wrote: With my 1.8 GHz/ATI 9800 system, VLC played the clip jerkily. Media Player Classic with HDTVPump played it smoothly but with speedups every few seconds. No way to tell if there would have been lipsync issues. Windows Media Player was pretty good, with a number of freezes at the start. As expected, my MyHD card played it very well, but FF/RW didn't work at all. If you're not familiar with the card, it has its own MPEG2 decoding and output, so it doesn't require a fast processor and the video card's capabilities don't matter. Del, you would probably be amused if you knew how many times I have read and re-read your very helpful response. I am learning a lot and I find all this fascinating. It has been my goal for some time to record Hi-Def video successfully, but it's been only during the past few months that I have learned how to connect my cable box to the computer and capture a transfer stream. Now I am struggling with the fact that different HDTV channels seem to provide different types of video. Some of what I capture -- HBO for example -- plays great. Other stuff -- ABC Network for example -- seems to be more problematic. You have helped me with this in another thread, I believe. Thanks. VLC does not play the launch clip jerkily (or at least not very jerkily) on my Pentium 3.2 GHz / ATI 9600 XT system, but when the camera moves quickly, or when the smoke billows from the launch pad, I do see tearing of the video. This is not as apparent when playing the clip in the ATI File Player, or Windows Media Player, but still it's there if you look closely. So from your note I have inferred that an even faster processor will be required to play Hi-Def successfully from my computer. I use the ATI 9600XT because it has dual outputs, and I can send video from my computer to my 42 inch plasma screen display, which has computer monitor input. I had to trim out the launch sequence from the original capture, which ran for a couple of hours and was over 13 gigabytes. I believe that in the process I converted the transfer stream clip to mpeg2. Speaking for myself and, I suspect, most others who frequent a.b.hdtv, I'd rather have had the original transport stream, cut into 100 MB segments as you did the RAR files. No need to RAR them; they're already compressed about as much as they're going to be. If you look at other posts there, nearly all are .ts files. HDTVtoMPEG2 can handle that repackaging very well; just make sure the output format is transport stream. This makes perfect sense. I used WinRar on the clip because I knew of no other way to break the file apart into segments. My primary problem was deciding how large to make each segment. I appreciate you letting me know that 100 MB segments are about right. I guessed correctly. Hooray. One advantage of posting .ts files directly is that one can download any one or a group of them to view as samples. No need to take the whole thing just to see if you want it. Though that's not really an issue with a short clip like this. Indeed. I downloaded one .ts segment from alt.binaries.hdtv last night just as a test, and now I understand the value of what you're telling me. The MyHD software is quite good about playing consecutively-numbered files smoothly if they're named correctly. Though not documented, the most common naming convention on a.b.hdtv usually works well: filename.nnnn.ts I assume HDTV2MPEG2 will automatically apply the consecutive numbers as you've described? I will check this some time over the weekend. where nnnn is a 4-digit number. I'm not aware of a software-only player that does that, but I haven't really looked. Most will play a list of files, but with black or a glitch between them. Those who want one big file can reassemble the pieces with HDTVtoMPEG2, MPEG2Repair (which can also fix other errors) or even the venerable COPY /B command. Note that if your clip had exceeded 4 GB, those still using FAT32 file systems (Win 98, ME, etc.) would not have been able to unRAR it, though they could have used 100 MB .ts files. Finally, thank you for uploading this. I don't have HDNet, so this is the only way I could see the launch in HD. And thank you for the very helpful suggestions in both threads. -- Bill Anderson I am the Mighty Favog |
Could someone please capture NASA HDTV of Shuttle Launch
wrote (in part):
VLC does not play the launch clip jerkily (or at least not very jerkily) on my Pentium 3.2 GHz / ATI 9600 XT system, but when the camera moves quickly, or when the smoke billows from the launch pad, I do see tearing of the video. This is not as apparent when playing the clip in the ATI File Player, or Windows Media Player, but still it's there if you look closely. So from your note I have inferred that an even faster processor will be required to play Hi-Def successfully from my computer. I use the ATI 9600XT because it has dual outputs, and I can send video from my computer to my 42 inch plasma screen display, which has computer monitor input. I think others have success at that speed. Maybe it needs the right choice of codecs or some fine tweaking. I haven't gotten into that much because the MyHD card makes all those issues moot. I think the company recommends an 800 MHz computer as a minimum for full DVR functionality. It can record OTA and unscrambled cable digitals, but you would still need your cable box/IEEE 1394 solution for the scrambled channels. Cable's retransmissions of broadcast channels should not be scrambled. But the card would solve your playback problems, and let you record two channels at once as long as one of them was a broadcast channel. Since your plasma has a VGA input, you should be able to loop one output of your ATI card through the MyHD card (through a supplied dongle) so that you could toggle between the MyHD and ATI outputs. Or you could run the MyHD output separately to the component input of the plasma through an adapter cable. The MyHD software is quite good about playing consecutively-numbered files smoothly if they're named correctly. Though not documented, the most common naming convention on a.b.hdtv usually works well: filename.nnnn.ts I assume HDTV2MPEG2 will automatically apply the consecutive numbers as you've described? I will check this some time over the weekend. Yes. First, make sure you have a recent version. Latest is 1.11.89, available from: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~balaz...EG2/index.html If you Google "hdtvtompeg2" the first entry is the home page of the original author, and the last version there is 1.07. That confuses some people. To crank out 100 MB .ts files, make sure the Output Type is "Transport Stream," Ext is ".0000.ts" and Max Size is "100" MB and not grayed out. The Clips button toggles that; if it's grayed out you'll get one big file. Pick a file name and destination. If you want, select the parts to include and exclude from the original file. Then click Process. Del Mibbler |
Could someone please capture NASA HDTV of Shuttle Launch
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Could someone please capture NASA HDTV of Shuttle Launch
Del Mibbler wrote:
$13 a month for 2GB? That's expensive. EasyNews is $10/mo. for 20 GB and APN is $15/mo. for unlimited. I have both (because I need more than the 4 simultaneous connections each offers to max out my 15 Mbps FIOS service) but I'm thinking of dropping them for GigaNews unlimited, which would give much better retention and more connections for the same price. I just checked the GN site. $13 should buy you 25 GB; 2GB is only $8. I wish I could claim "typo" but in fact I had somehow remembered signing up for 2 GB instead of 25 GB. You are correct, of course, and boy am I glad. -- Bill Anderson I am the Mighty Favog |
Could someone please capture NASA HDTV of Shuttle Launch
I've been looking through the messages and yet to find the URL of
where the images were posted, or to what newsgroup. Can some one "refresh" the location that an interested party might browse to in order to download? Sorry to be a pain, but there are many discussions about the upload, but no URL that I can find so far. Thanks. |
Could someone please capture NASA HDTV of Shuttle Launch
"Bouncer" wrote in message ... I've been looking through the messages and yet to find the URL of where the images were posted, or to what newsgroup. Can some one "refresh" the location that an interested party might browse to in order to download? Sorry to be a pain, but there are many discussions about the upload, but no URL that I can find so far. Thanks. alt.binaries.hdtv It's in the thread, but early on. -- Bill Anderson I am the Mighty Favog |
Could someone please capture NASA HDTV of Shuttle Launch
Bill:
You've apparently gone to a LOT of work to get these files, and I can't find them! Are they still out there, or can you tell me again where in the world to link to them? Thanks for the work and the info if you can. |
Could someone please capture NASA HDTV of Shuttle Launch
Bouncer wrote:
Bill: You've apparently gone to a LOT of work to get these files, and I can't find them! Are they still out there, or can you tell me again where in the world to link to them? Thanks for the work and the info if you can. They're in the newsgroup alt.binaries.hdtv. They're rar files. The subject is Shuttle Launch 4 July 2006. There are 27 parts in two uploads -- two, because I had to reboot in the middle of everything. There are also some Par files. The date on the files is 2006-07-05. That's about all I can tell you. If you don't have access to alt.binaries.hdtv, well, I don't know what to say. Maybe others here will have some advice. -- Bill Anderson I am the Mighty Favog |
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