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[email protected] June 13th 06 04:27 PM

Any cheap off air HD receiver boxes with PVR functions yet?
 
I live abt 20 miles form two HD transmitters

I'm cheap

having aid that id give HD a try if I could buy a low
cost HD tuner box with PVR functions

Any advice on something low cost that does the job
well? Or is everything still above $500?

Gerry Wheeler June 13th 06 05:08 PM

Any cheap off air HD receiver boxes with PVR functions yet?
 
wrote in message
...
Any advice on something low cost that does the job
well? Or is everything still above $500?


The Sony PVR DHG-HDD250 (I think that's correct) was recently discontinued
and has been available for sale prices recently. You might find one on eBay.
It has three types of tuners (NTSC, ATSC, and QAM), and works great.
--
Gerry



Wes Newell June 13th 06 05:52 PM

Any cheap off air HD receiver boxes with PVR functions yet?
 
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 09:27:33 -0500, me wrote:

I live abt 20 miles form two HD transmitters

I'm about 45 miles.

I'm cheap

Me too, and proud of it.:-)

having aid that id give HD a try if I could buy a low
cost HD tuner box with PVR functions

Any advice on something low cost that does the job
well? Or is everything still above $500?


Build your own for a lot less.

Go to ebay and buy a couple of old Air2PC Rev.02 cards for $25 each. These
are OTA only. They don't do QAM.

Put together a cheap PC equal to a 754 Sempron 2800+ or faster. Use a
board with 4 or more PCI slots. Fry's has these on sale almost every other
week lately for $79 (Nforce-3A MB and Sempron 3100+). Add 512M ram, An
Nvidia FX5200 or faster video card. 120GB minimum HDD. Figure 7GB per hour
of storage you want and buy accordingly. Rec. 300GB or more. Now put it
all together, download KnoppMyth and install it. See sig line.

I run mythbackend server and 3 clients off this, with one being on this
machine, and one on each of my other TV's/Monitor's. A client only machine
cost about $200. I can record up to 4 HDTV shows at once.

--
Want the ultimate in free OTA SD/HDTV Recorder? http://mythtv.org
http://mysettopbox.tv/knoppmyth.html Usenet alt.video.ptv.mythtv
My server http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/cpu.php
HD Tivo S3 compared http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/mythtivo.htm


[email protected] June 13th 06 07:02 PM

Any cheap off air HD receiver boxes with PVR functions yet?
 
"Gerry Wheeler" wrote:

The Sony PVR DHG-HDD250 (I think that's correct) was recently discontinued
and has been available for sale prices recently. You might find one on eBay.
It has three types of tuners (NTSC, ATSC, and QAM), and works great.


Ok

Dumb question but does there exist anything that is
portable and fits bill above?

Something for use in RV or camping?

[email protected] June 13th 06 07:54 PM

Any cheap off air HD receiver boxes with PVR functions yet?
 
Wes Newell wrote:

Build your own for a lot less.


Hi Wes

yes I keep "thinking" abt that

Tell me again what off air antenna you use ok?

Do they make a good off air HD antenna that is very
discrete looking? Something that could be mounted under
eaves of a house and just look like a box or something?

Or....any way to use such a HD box above in an RV or
van??

I'm kicking around doing the RV thing soon

G-squared June 13th 06 09:33 PM

Any cheap off air HD receiver boxes with PVR functions yet?
 

wrote:
Wes Newell wrote:

Build your own for a lot less.


Hi Wes

yes I keep "thinking" abt that

Tell me again what off air antenna you use ok?

Do they make a good off air HD antenna that is very
discrete looking? Something that could be mounted under
eaves of a house and just look like a box or something?

Or....any way to use such a HD box above in an RV or
van??

I'm kicking around doing the RV thing soon


Here it is again. Works fine at 35 miles in 90274.

http://www.winegard.com/offair/squareshooter.htm

GG


Wes Newell June 13th 06 11:21 PM

Any cheap off air HD receiver boxes with PVR functions yet?
 
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 12:54:36 -0500, me wrote:

Wes Newell wrote:

Build your own for a lot less.


Hi Wes

yes I keep "thinking" abt that

Tell me again what off air antenna you use ok?

I use the CM4228 UHF antenna mounted on top of house on a tripod. There's
also one lousy station that's vhf and I've got my old lousy regular
antenna up there for it. Might work without it, but I'm not climbing up
there to see.:-)


Do they make a good off air HD antenna that is very discrete looking?


They make all kinds. Or you could put one like the CM4228 inside wood
box with a tinted cvoer over the front if you don't want it seen. Maybe
thin tinted plexiglass or something. At only 25 miles the smaller 4 bay
model 4221 should work great.

Something that could be mounted under eaves of a house and just look
like a box or something?

Or....any way to use such a HD box above in an RV or van??

Sure. They even make special RV attennas but I wouldn't waste my money on
them.

I'm kicking around doing the RV thing soon


Hmmmm... Coax fitting on outside of rv. When you camp, put tripod mounted
antenna on triop of rv and connect and point. Or maybe a retractable mast
mounted on the back and leave the antenna on it all the time. I had a
converted van I put a luggage rack antenna on. It worked, but not real
good.

--
Want the ultimate in free OTA SD/HDTV Recorder? http://mythtv.org
http://mysettopbox.tv/knoppmyth.html Usenet alt.video.ptv.mythtv
My server http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/cpu.php
HD Tivo S3 compared http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/mythtivo.htm


[email protected] June 14th 06 01:05 AM

Any cheap off air HD receiver boxes with PVR functions yet?
 
Wes Newell wrote:

I use the CM4228 UHF antenna mounted on top of house on a tripod


Actually that unit above might be easier to use in an
apartment than the other antenna

Could you mount the above antenna inside the apartment
on internal wall? Or maybe outside on patio?

Alan Figgatt June 14th 06 04:39 AM

Any cheap off air HD receiver boxes with PVR functions yet?
 
wrote:
Wes Newell wrote:


I use the CM4228 UHF antenna mounted on top of house on a tripod



Actually that unit above might be easier to use in an
apartment than the other antenna

Could you mount the above antenna inside the apartment
on internal wall? Or maybe outside on patio?


The CM4228 is a pretty directional antenna. You will need to aim it
plus or minus a few degrees of the broadcast towers. That might be very
awkward for an inside mount unless it is in an attic space.

Looking back at your earlier posts, if you are 20 miles from the
broadcast towers and all the digital channels are UHF, a Channel Master
4221 (or 3021) 4 Bay Bowtie will work. I have one in my attic and it
picks up the Washington DC stations at 16 miles and the Baltimore
stations (with occasional dropouts for the weakest channel) at some 42
miles. It is still large, but 1/2 the size of the CM4228. Or perhaps
something smaller with a still wider beamwidth might fill the bill.

If you are looking for information on TV antennas,
http://www.hdtvprimer.com/ISSUES/erecting_antenna.html is a useful
website. Click on the Comparing some commercially available antennas
link which will net gain charts for the various antennas with further
links to photos & beam pickup diagrams for specific models.

Alan F

Wes Newell June 14th 06 07:39 AM

Any cheap off air HD receiver boxes with PVR functions yet?
 
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 18:05:44 -0500, me wrote:

Wes Newell wrote:

I use the CM4228 UHF antenna mounted on top of house on a tripod


Actually that unit above might be easier to use in an
apartment than the other antenna

Could you mount the above antenna inside the apartment
on internal wall? Or maybe outside on patio?


Duriing the transition of it from the attic to the top of the house I had
it sitting on top a patio table and it worked ok even with the roof
blocking line of sight. I don't know how well it would work inside the
apartment. Too many unknown variables to say. But for best performance,
outside with line of site would be much preferred.

--
Want the ultimate in free OTA SD/HDTV Recorder? http://mythtv.org
http://mysettopbox.tv/knoppmyth.html Usenet alt.video.ptv.mythtv
My server http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/cpu.php
HD Tivo S3 compared http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/mythtivo.htm


Wes Newell June 14th 06 07:49 AM

Any cheap off air HD receiver boxes with PVR functions yet?
 
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 14:19:28 -0700, stryped wrote:

Wes Newell wrote:
Go to ebay and buy a couple of old Air2PC Rev.02 cards for $25 each.
These are OTA only. They don't do QAM.

Put together a cheap PC equal to a 754 Sempron 2800+ or faster. Use a
board with 4 or more PCI slots. Fry's has these on sale almost every
other week lately for $79 (Nforce-3A MB and Sempron 3100+). Add 512M
ram, An Nvidia FX5200 or faster video card. 120GB minimum HDD. Figure
7GB per hour of storage you want and buy accordingly. Rec. 300GB or
more. Now put it all together, download KnoppMyth and install it. See
sig line.

I run mythbackend server and 3 clients off this, with one being on this
machine, and one on each of my other TV's/Monitor's. A client only
machine cost about $200. I can record up to 4 HDTV shows at once.

Can anyone explain to me in lamens and newbie terms what that is?


What "that" are you talking about?

Can I actually build an over the air HD tuner for my old tv's in the
house?


Well, you can't build the actual HD tuner, but you can buy them and put
them in a PC and end up with a box that will record and/or display HD
downconverted to 480i on your old TV. If that's what you are asking.

--
Want the ultimate in free OTA SD/HDTV Recorder? http://mythtv.org
http://mysettopbox.tv/knoppmyth.html Usenet alt.video.ptv.mythtv
My server http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/cpu.php
HD Tivo S3 compared http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/mythtivo.htm


[email protected] June 14th 06 03:57 PM

Any cheap off air HD receiver boxes with PVR functions yet?
 
Alan Figgatt wrote:

Looking back at your earlier posts, if you are 20 miles from the
broadcast towers and all the digital channels are UHF, a Channel Master
4221 (or 3021) 4 Bay Bowtie will work. I have one in my attic and it
picks up the Washington DC stations at 16 miles and the Baltimore
stations (with occasional dropouts for the weakest channel) at some 42
miles. It is still large, but 1/2 the size of the CM4228. Or perhaps
something smaller with a still wider beamwidth might fill the bill.


Good info!

I'm all for small and discrete

So will check it out

[email protected] June 14th 06 04:07 PM

Any cheap off air HD receiver boxes with PVR functions yet?
 
Wes Newell wrote:

Duriing the transition of it from the attic to the top of the house I had
it sitting on top a patio table and it worked ok even with the roof
blocking line of sight. I don't know how well it would work inside the
apartment. Too many unknown variables to say. But for best performance,
outside with line of site would be much preferred.


Understand

But I rent and cant always put the antenna where I want

And I like small and compact things that are easily
moved by one person (me)

Plus I'm lazy and don't like a lot of installation
problems. g

[email protected] June 14th 06 04:11 PM

Any cheap off air HD receiver boxes with PVR functions yet?
 
Wes Newell wrote:

Any advice on something low cost that does the job
well? Or is everything still above $500?


Build your own for a lot less.


Wes

What you think abt using one of these slim line PCs
form HP as a base for a HD pvr?

http://tinyurl.com/h4lvl

Has a laptop Pent M cpu in it
And I can buy the whole system at Costco cheap

Only has one internal slot tho. That's OK as I only
want one tuner

[email protected] June 14th 06 04:12 PM

Any cheap off air HD receiver boxes with PVR functions yet?
 
Wes Newell wrote:

Any advice on something low cost that does the job
well? Or is everything still above $500?


Build your own for a lot less.


Question... there is NO WAY you'd buy a set top box to
do above?

You'd always build your own huh?

Wes Newell June 14th 06 07:49 PM

Any cheap off air HD receiver boxes with PVR functions yet?
 
On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 09:11:22 -0500, me wrote:

Wes Newell wrote:

Any advice on something low cost that does the job
well? Or is everything still above $500?


Build your own for a lot less.


Wes

What you think abt using one of these slim line PCs
form HP as a base for a HD pvr?

http://tinyurl.com/h4lvl

Has a laptop Pent M cpu in it
And I can buy the whole system at Costco cheap

Only has one internal slot tho. That's OK as I only
want one tuner.


Certainly wouldn't buy a Celeron based system from the start. I think
you'd be wasting your money.. I wouldn't spend more than $300 on the
system If i just wanted one tuner to start, but I'd sure want room to
expand it to 2 or more tuners. If you have a Fry's close by, wait til they
run a sale on an AMD Sempron 3100+ with the ECS Nforce-3A MB For $79 again
and get that. Add 512MB PC3200 ram, a TR2-M6 CPU cooler, a 128MB FX5200
video card with dvi and svideo out, a CDrom or DVDrom/writer, and start
with at least 2 tuners. You won't regret it at only $25 each. Put it in
the case of your choice. I bought a black case with 500W PSU and side fan
for $25 from CMI. Worked great. Throw in a 250GB or larger HDD, a KB/mouse
and you're set. Total cost should be under $400. If you need a monitor, I
bought a 19" on sale Best Buy for $69 after rebate. I use that as the Tv
in my bedroom. for real HDTV. If you are going to use an old analog TV,
just use the Svideo out of the video card. That's what I dd for my wifes
TV. Each location reuires a PC, but only the one running the master
backend server requires tuners and HDD's.

--
Want the ultimate in free OTA SD/HDTV Recorder? http://mythtv.org
http://mysettopbox.tv/knoppmyth.html Usenet alt.video.ptv.mythtv
My server http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/cpu.php
HD Tivo S3 compared http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/mythtivo.htm


Wes Newell June 14th 06 08:04 PM

Any cheap off air HD receiver boxes with PVR functions yet?
 
On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 09:12:18 -0500, me wrote:

Wes Newell wrote:

Any advice on something low cost that does the job
well? Or is everything still above $500?


Build your own for a lot less.


Question... there is NO WAY you'd buy a set top box to
do above?

You can't record with just a STB. There's no way I'd buy an HDTV recorder
that was limited to just 1 or 2 tuners and one tv set. And there's no way
I'm going to pay for one and then have to continue paying for guide
service every month forever.

You'd always build your own huh?


No, with analog NTSC, I had an S1 Tivo (didn't require guide data to
record), an RCA DRS7000N (free OTA guide data, I still recorded manually),
and a couple of VCR's all hooked to the same TV.

I really haven't bult any per se. I bought tuner cards and installed in my
existing PC (already running Linux) and installed the MythTV software.
That was that. Now fro the other locations, I built bare PC's so they
could run a MythTV clients (frontends) off my server. As far as PC's go,
yes, I always build my own, if you call putting the parts together and
installing the software building them.

--
Want the ultimate in free OTA SD/HDTV Recorder? http://mythtv.org
http://mysettopbox.tv/knoppmyth.html Usenet alt.video.ptv.mythtv
My server http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/cpu.php
HD Tivo S3 compared http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/mythtivo.htm


[email protected] June 14th 06 10:35 PM

Any cheap off air HD receiver boxes with PVR functions yet?
 
Wes Newell wrote:

Certainly wouldn't buy a Celeron based system from the start.


Agree

I def would not go celeron.... Id get the Pent M model
only

[email protected] June 14th 06 10:38 PM

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Wes Newell wrote:

You can't record with just a STB. There's no way I'd buy an HDTV recorder
that was limited to just 1 or 2 tuners and one tv set. And there's no way
I'm going to pay for one and then have to continue paying for guide
service every month forever.


I see your argument above


I should have said STB with hard drive in it....as that
is what I meant

I'm just so cramped for time anyone that I'm not sure I
want to mess around with assembling one and then
installing Windows OS and Myth and all that.

Sometimes I think id just as soon buy a STB with hard
drive that has all programming in firmware

Wes Newell June 15th 06 07:07 AM

Any cheap off air HD receiver boxes with PVR functions yet?
 
On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 15:38:07 -0500, me wrote:

Wes Newell wrote:

You can't record with just a STB. There's no way I'd buy an HDTV recorder
that was limited to just 1 or 2 tuners and one tv set. And there's no way
I'm going to pay for one and then have to continue paying for guide
service every month forever.


I see your argument above


I should have said STB with hard drive in it....as that
is what I meant

I'm just so cramped for time anyone that I'm not sure I
want to mess around with assembling one and then
installing Windows OS and Myth and all that.


You won't have to worry about installing windows. it doesn't run on
Windows.:-)
You would install from a single CD like Knoppmyth. It installs a somewhat
bare debian based linux system along with all required MythTV modules for
you. you don't need to know anything about Linux to install it. it will
ask you questions and you answer. Takes about 15 minutes maybe. So go
ahead and screw it up a few times.:-) Hit the reset button and start over.


Sometimes I think id just as soon buy a STB with hard drive that has all
programming in firmware


There's always the Sony model if that's what you want. The Tivo S3 may be
out by September, but it's going to really cost you and arm and a leg. And
then the corner of your mouth where they can put the hook in to keep you
making those monthly payments.

--
Want the ultimate in free OTA SD/HDTV Recorder? http://mythtv.org
http://mysettopbox.tv/knoppmyth.html Usenet alt.video.ptv.mythtv
My server http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/cpu.php
HD Tivo S3 compared http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/mythtivo.htm


Alan Larson June 15th 06 09:00 AM

Any cheap off air HD receiver boxes with PVR functions yet?
 
In article writes:
Wes Newell wrote:

Duriing the transition of it from the attic to the top of the house I had
it sitting on top a patio table and it worked ok even with the roof
blocking line of sight. I don't know how well it would work inside the
apartment. Too many unknown variables to say. But for best performance,
outside with line of site would be much preferred.


Understand

But I rent and cant always put the antenna where I want

And I like small and compact things that are easily
moved by one person (me)

Plus I'm lazy and don't like a lot of installation
problems. g


None of these factors will change the laws of physics involved with
electromagnetic wave propagation.

Signal blockages, diffraction through windows and other RF holes,
reflections off walls, objects, and people inside all will continue to
happen.

Being a renter will not change these laws. Neither your preference for
small things nor your sloth will change these laws.


Alan

[email protected] June 15th 06 04:58 PM

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(Alan Larson) wrote:

None of these factors will change the laws of physics involved with
electromagnetic wave propagation.


Understood

But still doesn't keep me from "optimizing" my life as
much as possible..... i.e. not having pers possessions
that are so big that I can even move them by myself

[email protected] June 15th 06 05:00 PM

Any cheap off air HD receiver boxes with PVR functions yet?
 
Wes Newell wrote:

You would install from a single CD like Knoppmyth. It installs a somewhat
bare debian based linux system along with all required MythTV modules for
you. you don't need to know anything about Linux to install it. it will
ask you questions and you answer. Takes about 15 minutes maybe. So go
ahead and screw it up a few times.:-) Hit the reset button and start over.


Ahh.... very cool!!

I knew that it ran under Linux but didn't know it was
THAT easy to install

Tell me.... could I make such a Myth machine out of a
portable laptop?

I know we've talked in past abt this but I've forgotten
sorry.

My objective is to have a HD TV with PVR functions that
is "portable" and compact such as for cabin or RV
living

Wes Newell June 15th 06 07:59 PM

Any cheap off air HD receiver boxes with PVR functions yet?
 
On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 10:00:20 -0500, me wrote:

Wes Newell wrote:

You would install from a single CD like Knoppmyth. It installs a somewhat
bare debian based linux system along with all required MythTV modules for
you. you don't need to know anything about Linux to install it. it will
ask you questions and you answer. Takes about 15 minutes maybe. So go
ahead and screw it up a few times.:-) Hit the reset button and start over.


Ahh.... very cool!!

I knew that it ran under Linux but didn't know it was
THAT easy to install

Tell me.... could I make such a Myth machine out of a
portable laptop?

I know we've talked in past abt this but I've forgotten
sorry.

My objective is to have a HD TV with PVR functions that
is "portable" and compact such as for cabin or RV
living


Ok. Yeah, that shouldn't be too hard. You'd need a supported USB tuner
though and a fairly fast CPU for the display. I think the Dvico USB HDTV5
tuner is supported. They all may be. I haven't invetigated USB. The only
other problem I see is HD space. Might need an external HDD. You need 7GB
for every hour of HDTV you record. And you'd probably want a larger
display fora cabin you could plug into the notebook. Or if you have at
least a 120gb drive in the notebook and the screen is ok, then all you'd
need is the usb tuner. That would give you about 15hrs. of HDTV space.
Stations that broadcast at 720p only need about 4GB space per hour, but I
think most broadcast the full 1080i. Only one here uses 720p. I can't tell
the difference in the picture.

--
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My server http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/cpu.php
HD Tivo S3 compared http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/mythtivo.htm


Wes Newell June 15th 06 08:20 PM

Any cheap off air HD receiver boxes with PVR functions yet?
 
On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 10:41:32 -0700, stryped wrote:

Where are the instructions?


In this thread. In my sigline. All over the web. mythtv.org See. the
mythtv docs at mythtv.com

What if I want to watch one over the air
channel in one room and another in another room?


You can watch wherever you have a client machine and an available tuner
anywhere. But that kind oif defeats the purpose of the recorder. I never
watch live TV. Everything gets recorded that I watch. As an example, from
the server log;

2006-06-15 13:00:03.039 Scheduled 243 items in 2.2 = 0.00 match + 2.23 place

there's 243 recordings schealdule in the next 14 days.

Can I watch satelite
in one room and over the air channel in another?

If you have a sat box.

This is very interesting but I am slightly technically challeneged but
learning every day!


Let me make one thing clear. I only recommend MythTV for OTA
digital (HDTV) reception. While it will record sat and cable, I don't
know much about it as I've never had sat or cable and never will. So if
you want to record sat or cable, I'd suggest a recorder from your sat or
cable co. They usually provide them darn cheap as an incentive to use
their service. And most should be adequate I would think. Recording sat or
cable with a standalone box like MythTV, Tivo, whatever, requires some
sort of interface to their box to control channel selction, etc. Usually
with an IR blaster or possibly serial. If you plan on using one of these
standalone type boxes with your sat or cable, investigate before starting.
I can't help you much with it.

--
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http://mysettopbox.tv/knoppmyth.html Usenet alt.video.ptv.mythtv
My server http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/cpu.php
HD Tivo S3 compared http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/mythtivo.htm


[email protected] June 15th 06 10:39 PM

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Wes Newell wrote:

You can watch wherever you have a client machine and an available tuner
anywhere. But that kind oif defeats the purpose of the recorder. I never
watch live TV. Everything gets recorded that I watch. As an example, from
the server log;


Just to make sure.... this is OFF air programming only
right Wes?

You do NOT have cable TV service? Right?

[email protected] June 15th 06 10:41 PM

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Wes Newell wrote:

Let me make one thing clear. I only recommend MythTV for OTA
digital (HDTV) reception.


Oops..... I see this is my answer to previous post

Question tho.....could Myth work without ANY Internet
service at all?

Say I have a river camp. I setup a small Myth box there
with off air antenna. But I have no Internet access
there. Will it still work?

[email protected] June 15th 06 10:44 PM

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Wes Newell wrote:

The only
other problem I see is HD space. Might need an external HDD.


No a problem really

My goal would be to time shift just a night or two of
programming. I'm not looking to keep a "library" of
shows.

Just enough hard drive space to time shift is all I
need

Mater of fact.... it would be OK if I didn't get around
to watching what is in the hard drive in say a certain
number days.... that it just records right over it
again.

Grant Edwards June 15th 06 10:45 PM

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On 2006-06-15, wrote:

Let me make one thing clear. I only recommend MythTV for OTA
digital (HDTV) reception.


Why? I've used it for OTA NTSC and Cable NTSC and it worked
great.

Question tho.....could Myth work without ANY Internet
service at all?

Say I have a river camp. I setup a small Myth box there
with off air antenna. But I have no Internet access
there. Will it still work?


Yes, but not very well. You'll have to manually schedule
recordings since you'll have no way for MythTV to fetch the
program schedule.

--
Grant Edwards grante Yow! I selected E5... but
at I didn't hear "Sam the Sham
visi.com and the Pharoahs"!

[email protected] June 15th 06 10:46 PM

Any cheap off air HD receiver boxes with PVR functions yet?
 
Wes Newell wrote:

My objective is to have a HD TV with PVR functions that
is "portable" and compact such as for cabin or RV
living


Ok. Yeah, that shouldn't be too hard. You'd need a supported USB tuner
though and a fairly fast CPU for the display.


I guess the other issue is to make sure that this Linux
distro of Myth will work on whatever laptop I use huh?

[email protected] June 16th 06 05:26 AM

Any cheap off air HD receiver boxes with PVR functions yet?
 
Grant Edwards wrote:

Say I have a river camp. I setup a small Myth box there
with off air antenna. But I have no Internet access
there. Will it still work?


Yes, but not very well. You'll have to manually schedule
recordings since you'll have no way for MythTV to fetch the
program schedule.


Is there no way to make Myth get that program info off
air via EPG signal?

Grant Edwards June 16th 06 06:13 AM

Any cheap off air HD receiver boxes with PVR functions yet?
 
On 2006-06-16, wrote:
Grant Edwards wrote:

Say I have a river camp. I setup a small Myth box there
with off air antenna. But I have no Internet access
there. Will it still work?


Yes, but not very well. You'll have to manually schedule
recordings since you'll have no way for MythTV to fetch the
program schedule.


Is there no way to make Myth get that program info off
air via EPG signal?


Apparently there is.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=mythtv+epg

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Wes Newell June 16th 06 07:29 AM

Any cheap off air HD receiver boxes with PVR functions yet?
 
On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 15:39:09 -0500, me wrote:

Wes Newell wrote:

You can watch wherever you have a client machine and an available tuner
anywhere. But that kind oif defeats the purpose of the recorder. I never
watch live TV. Everything gets recorded that I watch. As an example, from
the server log;


Just to make sure.... this is OFF air programming only
right Wes?

You do NOT have cable TV service? Right?


Right, I don't have cable or sat.

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Wes Newell June 16th 06 07:36 AM

Any cheap off air HD receiver boxes with PVR functions yet?
 
On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 15:41:00 -0500, me wrote:

Wes Newell wrote:

Let me make one thing clear. I only recommend MythTV for OTA
digital (HDTV) reception.


Oops..... I see this is my answer to previous post

Question tho.....could Myth work without ANY Internet
service at all?

Yes, but without some program guide you'd have to schedule manual
recordings by time slots. The manual reording is also very versatile.

Say I have a river camp. I setup a small Myth box there with off air
antenna. But I have no Internet access there. Will it still work?


Yes, but manual recordings.

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Wes Newell June 16th 06 07:47 AM

Any cheap off air HD receiver boxes with PVR functions yet?
 
On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 22:26:58 -0500, me wrote:

Grant Edwards wrote:

Say I have a river camp. I setup a small Myth box there
with off air antenna. But I have no Internet access
there. Will it still work?


Yes, but not very well. You'll have to manually schedule
recordings since you'll have no way for MythTV to fetch the
program schedule.


Is there no way to make Myth get that program info off
air via EPG signal?


Grant says there is. I know nothing about it and have no need for it.

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http://mysettopbox.tv/knoppmyth.html Usenet alt.video.ptv.mythtv
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HD Tivo S3 compared http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/mythtivo.htm


Wes Newell June 16th 06 07:48 AM

Any cheap off air HD receiver boxes with PVR functions yet?
 
On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 15:44:54 -0500, me wrote:

Mater of fact.... it would be OK if I didn't get around
to watching what is in the hard drive in say a certain
number days.... that it just records right over it
again.


Yep. That's would happen by default.

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Wes Newell June 16th 06 07:50 AM

Any cheap off air HD receiver boxes with PVR functions yet?
 
On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 15:46:30 -0500, me wrote:

I guess the other issue is to make sure that this Linux
distro of Myth will work on whatever laptop I use huh?


Definately.

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[email protected] June 16th 06 01:56 PM

Any cheap off air HD receiver boxes with PVR functions yet?
 
Wes Newell wrote:

You do NOT have cable TV service? Right?


Right, I don't have cable or sat.


have you missed it any?

[email protected] June 16th 06 03:31 PM

Any cheap off air HD receiver boxes with PVR functions yet?
 
Wes Newell wrote:

Question tho.....could Myth work without ANY Internet
service at all?

Yes, but without some program guide you'd have to schedule manual
recordings by time slots. The manual reording is also very versatile.


Ahh...so manual recording is done easily as well huh?

That solves my problem of no Internet access than..I
can just do it manually

Wes Newell June 16th 06 03:46 PM

Any cheap off air HD receiver boxes with PVR functions yet?
 
On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 06:56:34 -0500, me wrote:

Wes Newell wrote:

You do NOT have cable TV service? Right?


Right, I don't have cable or sat.


have you missed it any?


No.

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http://mysettopbox.tv/knoppmyth.html Usenet alt.video.ptv.mythtv
My server http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/cpu.php
HD Tivo S3 compared http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/mythtivo.htm



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