Any cheap off air HD receiver boxes with PVR functions yet?
 

In article writes:
Wes Newell wrote:

Duriing the transition of it from the attic to the top of the house I had
it sitting on top a patio table and it worked ok even with the roof
blocking line of sight. I don't know how well it would work inside the
apartment. Too many unknown variables to say. But for best performance,
outside with line of site would be much preferred.

Understand

But I rent and cant always put the antenna where I want

And I like small and compact things that are easily
moved by one person (me)

Plus I'm lazy and don't like a lot of installation
problems. g

None of these factors will change the laws of physics involved with
electromagnetic wave propagation.

Signal blockages, diffraction through windows and other RF holes,
reflections off walls, objects, and people inside all will continue to
happen.

Being a renter will not change these laws. Neither your preference for
small things nor your sloth will change these laws.


Alan

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Any cheap off air HD receiver boxes with PVR functions yet?
 

Wes Newell wrote:

You would install from a single CD like Knoppmyth. It installs a somewhat
bare debian based linux system along with all required MythTV modules for
you. you don't need to know anything about Linux to install it. it will
ask you questions and you answer. Takes about 15 minutes maybe. So go
ahead and screw it up a few times.:-) Hit the reset button and start over.

Ahh.... very cool!!

I knew that it ran under Linux but didn't know it was
THAT easy to install

Tell me.... could I make such a Myth machine out of a
portable laptop?

I know we've talked in past abt this but I've forgotten
sorry.

My objective is to have a HD TV with PVR functions that
is "portable" and compact such as for cabin or RV
living

Any cheap off air HD receiver boxes with PVR functions yet?
 

On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 10:00:20 -0500, me wrote:

Wes Newell wrote:

You would install from a single CD like Knoppmyth. It installs a somewhat
bare debian based linux system along with all required MythTV modules for
you. you don't need to know anything about Linux to install it. it will
ask you questions and you answer. Takes about 15 minutes maybe. So go
ahead and screw it up a few times.:-) Hit the reset button and start over.

Ahh.... very cool!!

I knew that it ran under Linux but didn't know it was
THAT easy to install

Tell me.... could I make such a Myth machine out of a
portable laptop?

I know we've talked in past abt this but I've forgotten
sorry.

My objective is to have a HD TV with PVR functions that
is "portable" and compact such as for cabin or RV
living

Ok. Yeah, that shouldn't be too hard. You'd need a supported USB tuner
though and a fairly fast CPU for the display. I think the Dvico USB HDTV5
tuner is supported. They all may be. I haven't invetigated USB. The only
other problem I see is HD space. Might need an external HDD. You need 7GB
for every hour of HDTV you record. And you'd probably want a larger
display fora cabin you could plug into the notebook. Or if you have at
least a 120gb drive in the notebook and the screen is ok, then all you'd
need is the usb tuner. That would give you about 15hrs. of HDTV space.
Stations that broadcast at 720p only need about 4GB space per hour, but I
think most broadcast the full 1080i. Only one here uses 720p. I can't tell
the difference in the picture.

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On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 10:41:32 -0700, stryped wrote:

Where are the instructions?

In this thread. In my sigline. All over the web. mythtv.org See. the
mythtv docs at mythtv.com

What if I want to watch one over the air
channel in one room and another in another room?

You can watch wherever you have a client machine and an available tuner
anywhere. But that kind oif defeats the purpose of the recorder. I never
watch live TV. Everything gets recorded that I watch. As an example, from
the server log;

2006-06-15 13:00:03.039 Scheduled 243 items in 2.2 = 0.00 match + 2.23 place

there's 243 recordings schealdule in the next 14 days.

Can I watch satelite
in one room and over the air channel in another?

If you have a sat box.

This is very interesting but I am slightly technically challeneged but
learning every day!

Let me make one thing clear. I only recommend MythTV for OTA
digital (HDTV) reception. While it will record sat and cable, I don't
know much about it as I've never had sat or cable and never will. So if
you want to record sat or cable, I'd suggest a recorder from your sat or
cable co. They usually provide them darn cheap as an incentive to use
their service. And most should be adequate I would think. Recording sat or
cable with a standalone box like MythTV, Tivo, whatever, requires some
sort of interface to their box to control channel selction, etc. Usually
with an IR blaster or possibly serial. If you plan on using one of these
standalone type boxes with your sat or cable, investigate before starting.
I can't help you much with it.

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http://mysettopbox.tv/knoppmyth.html Usenet alt.video.ptv.mythtv
My server http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/cpu.php
HD Tivo S3 compared http://wesnewell.no-ip.com/mythtivo.htm

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Wes Newell wrote:

You can watch wherever you have a client machine and an available tuner
anywhere. But that kind oif defeats the purpose of the recorder. I never
watch live TV. Everything gets recorded that I watch. As an example, from
the server log;

Just to make sure.... this is OFF air programming only
right Wes?

You do NOT have cable TV service? Right?

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Wes Newell wrote:

Let me make one thing clear. I only recommend MythTV for OTA
digital (HDTV) reception.

Oops..... I see this is my answer to previous post

Question tho.....could Myth work without ANY Internet
service at all?

Say I have a river camp. I setup a small Myth box there
with off air antenna. But I have no Internet access
there. Will it still work?

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Wes Newell wrote:

The only
other problem I see is HD space. Might need an external HDD.

No a problem really

My goal would be to time shift just a night or two of
programming. I'm not looking to keep a "library" of
shows.

Just enough hard drive space to time shift is all I
need

Mater of fact.... it would be OK if I didn't get around
to watching what is in the hard drive in say a certain
number days.... that it just records right over it
again.

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On 2006-06-15, wrote:

Let me make one thing clear. I only recommend MythTV for OTA
digital (HDTV) reception.

Why? I've used it for OTA NTSC and Cable NTSC and it worked
great.

Question tho.....could Myth work without ANY Internet
service at all?

Say I have a river camp. I setup a small Myth box there
with off air antenna. But I have no Internet access
there. Will it still work?

Yes, but not very well. You'll have to manually schedule
recordings since you'll have no way for MythTV to fetch the
program schedule.

--
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at I didn't hear "Sam the Sham
visi.com and the Pharoahs"!

Any cheap off air HD receiver boxes with PVR functions yet?
 

Wes Newell wrote:

My objective is to have a HD TV with PVR functions that
is "portable" and compact such as for cabin or RV
living

Ok. Yeah, that shouldn't be too hard. You'd need a supported USB tuner
though and a fairly fast CPU for the display.

I guess the other issue is to make sure that this Linux
distro of Myth will work on whatever laptop I use huh?