Side by Side PIP
 

I'd niminate the box in the corner Picture in Picture as
one of the most useless features ever. I don't know anyone that
ever uses it, including me who foolishly bought a TV with that
feature.

I do however, think I would use a full screen side by side
PIP.

Do any of these new big screen HD TV's offer that feature?

Thanks

On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 10:25:09 -0500, Sean wrote:

I do however, think I would use a full screen side by side
PIP.

Do any of these new big screen HD TV's offer that feature?

A lot do; my Hitachi does. Its the only PiP mode I use. Nice for watching
football when there are two games and neither is HD.

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Mitsubishi does
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On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 10:25:09 -0500, Sean wrote:

I do however, think I would use a full screen side by side
PIP.

Do any of these new big screen HD TV's offer that feature?

A lot do; my Hitachi does. Its the only PiP mode I use. Nice for watching
football when there are two games and neither is HD.

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My panasonic will let you do it with 2 HD programs
"Sean" none wrote in message
...
I'd niminate the box in the corner Picture in Picture as
one of the most useless features ever. I don't know anyone that
ever uses it, including me who foolishly bought a TV with that
feature.

I do however, think I would use a full screen side by side
PIP.

Do any of these new big screen HD TV's offer that feature?

Thanks

Sean none wrote in message . ..
I'd niminate the box in the corner Picture in Picture as
one of the most useless features ever. I don't know anyone that
ever uses it, including me who foolishly bought a TV with that
feature.

I use PIP a lot for when I'm copying or backing up large
files on the computer. I can watch TV or a DVD or something
while easily seeing how far my computer job is progressing
and noticing if an error occurs. Also, if I'm copying
something to videotape I can see how it's going while
watching something else.

Of course, this is still just a minor convenience. It's not
a deal maker or deal breaker. Any existence or lack of PIP
features didn't enter into my purchasing decision one iota.

I do however, think I would use a full screen side by side
PIP.

The only time I've uses side-by-side POP so far is when a
friend of mine was entering videogame cheat codes into a
"Gameshark". One side was the videogame console, and the
other side was the computer displaying the appropriate
web page with the cheat codes. It was convenient to be
able to enter the codes without first writing them down or
printing them out.

I suppose I might also use side-by-side POP to watch something
while having the "Prevue Guide" channel scrolling cable TV
listings on the other side. Other than that, PIP is generally
more satisfactory.

Do any of these new big screen HD TV's offer that feature?

I think practically all of them do, although it's called
"POP" (Picture Outside Picture). My Mistubishi has various
PIP and POP modes, including that side-by-side POP.

Interestingly, the alternate picture is obviously converted
to composite and passed through a cheapo notch filter for
display. This doesn't matter for most PIP/POP modes, but in
the side-by-side mode dot-crawl artifacts are quite visible.
In the above example of a videogame/computer combination,
we had to set the computer to the primary picture in order
to read the web page comfortably. The Playstation2 had much
larger text so was less adversely affected by the ugly
notch filter artifacts.

Isaac Kuo

My Samsung HLN567W DLP set has side-by-side PIP.

--Mike

Sean none wrote:
I'd niminate the box in the corner Picture in Picture as
one of the most useless features ever. I don't know anyone that
ever uses it, including me who foolishly bought a TV with that
feature.

I do however, think I would use a full screen side by side
PIP.

Do any of these new big screen HD TV's offer that feature?

Thanks

My Samsung HLN567W DLP set has side-by-side PIP.

--Mike

Sean none wrote:
I'd niminate the box in the corner Picture in Picture as
one of the most useless features ever. I don't know anyone that
ever uses it, including me who foolishly bought a TV with that
feature.

I do however, think I would use a full screen side by side
PIP.

Do any of these new big screen HD TV's offer that feature?

Thanks

Yes! I have a Hitachi 51sw and it has side by side PIP.
"Sean" none wrote in message
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I'd niminate the box in the corner Picture in Picture as
one of the most useless features ever. I don't know anyone that
ever uses it, including me who foolishly bought a TV with that
feature.

I do however, think I would use a full screen side by side
PIP.

Do any of these new big screen HD TV's offer that feature?

Thanks

I have a Sony KP57WV600 and it has side by side

"Sean" none wrote in message
...
I'd niminate the box in the corner Picture in Picture as
one of the most useless features ever. I don't know anyone that
ever uses it, including me who foolishly bought a TV with that
feature.

I do however, think I would use a full screen side by side
PIP.

Do any of these new big screen HD TV's offer that feature?

Thanks

"Sean" none wrote in message ...
: I'd niminate the box in the corner Picture in Picture as
: one of the most useless features ever. I don't know anyone that
: ever uses it, including me who foolishly bought a TV with that
: feature.
:
: I do however, think I would use a full screen side by side
: PIP.
:
: Do any of these new big screen HD TV's offer that feature?
:
: Thanks

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Pioneer Elite series........................

The Sony GWIII has resizable pip called TwinView. By default, one will be
about 1/4 size vs. the other but you can +/- the "active" one and other
resizes proportionally. There is an electronic detent when both screens are
of equal size, side by each.
YMMV

"Sean" none wrote in message
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I'd niminate the box in the corner Picture in Picture as
one of the most useless features ever. I don't know anyone that
ever uses it, including me who foolishly bought a TV with that
feature.

I do however, think I would use a full screen side by side
PIP.

Do any of these new big screen HD TV's offer that feature?

Thanks

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"Richard C." wrote:
"Sean" none wrote in message
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: I'd niminate the box in the corner Picture in Picture as
: one of the most useless features ever. I don't know anyone that
: ever uses it, including me who foolishly bought a TV with that
: feature.
:
: I do however, think I would use a full screen side by side
: PIP.
:
: Do any of these new big screen HD TV's offer that feature?
:
My Mits 55511 does it.
Chip

IIRC the WS55511 (V21 chassis) only does it on non-HD modes. The new V22 &
V23 chassis sets (ending in 13) do PIP functions and allow format
distortions in the HD formats.

Leonard Caillouet

"Richard C." wrote:
"Sean" none wrote in message
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: I'd niminate the box in the corner Picture in Picture as
: one of the most useless features ever. I don't know anyone that
: ever uses it, including me who foolishly bought a TV with that
: feature.
:
: I do however, think I would use a full screen side by side
: PIP.
:
: Do any of these new big screen HD TV's offer that feature?
:
My Mits 55511 does it.
Chip

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On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 14:57:26 -0800, "Richard C."
wrote:

"Sean" none wrote in message ...
: I'd niminate the box in the corner Picture in Picture as
: one of the most useless features ever. I don't know anyone that
: ever uses it, including me who foolishly bought a TV with that
: feature.
:
: I do however, think I would use a full screen side by side
: PIP.
:
: Do any of these new big screen HD TV's offer that feature?
:
: Thanks

===================
Pioneer Elite series........................

Hitachi
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In article ,
"MrMike" wrote:

The Sony GWIII has resizable pip called TwinView. By default, one will be
about 1/4 size vs. the other but you can +/- the "active" one and other
resizes proportionally. There is an electronic detent when both screens are
of equal size, side by each.
YMMV


So does all the Sony XBR widescreen sets. I think they refer to it as
the multi-image driver. PIP is in virtually every higher-end TV sets,
including analog ones.

The side by side is definitely more useful. I will sometimes watch
something and put a game next to it, listening to a Tivo recording and
then if the game looks like something interesting is going on, I could
switch to it.

My 34XBR910 will also show 16:9 images if I'm on a component or DVI
connection showing an HDTV show. When i hit TwinView, the 16:9 image is
shown and then on the other box, I can change to whatever. The only
thing is if you enter TwinView from a non-component input, then I can't
cycle into a component input.

On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 16:42:57 GMT, poldy wrote:

In article ,
"MrMike" wrote:

The Sony GWIII has resizable pip called TwinView. By default, one will be
about 1/4 size vs. the other but you can +/- the "active" one and other
resizes proportionally. There is an electronic detent when both screens are
of equal size, side by each.
YMMV


So does all the Sony XBR widescreen sets. I think they refer to it as
the multi-image driver. PIP is in virtually every higher-end TV sets,
including analog ones.

The side by side is definitely more useful. I will sometimes watch
something and put a game next to it, listening to a Tivo recording and
then if the game looks like something interesting is going on, I could
switch to it.



OK, TIVO question. TIVO does not support HD so how do you view HD
stuff? Is your HD OTA, Cable or Sat? And are you saying the TIVO
side of the ssplit screen is the one with the sound on and you switch
to the other input if desired.

A primer on how you're hooked up with TIVO, and HD would be nice.

My brain is beginning to hurt thinking about how I would do this.

Thanks

In article , Sean none
wrote:

On Thu, 06 Nov 2003 16:42:57 GMT, poldy wrote:

In article ,
"MrMike" wrote:

The Sony GWIII has resizable pip called TwinView. By default, one will be
about 1/4 size vs. the other but you can +/- the "active" one and other
resizes proportionally. There is an electronic detent when both screens are
of equal size, side by each.
YMMV


So does all the Sony XBR widescreen sets. I think they refer to it as
the multi-image driver. PIP is in virtually every higher-end TV sets,
including analog ones.

The side by side is definitely more useful. I will sometimes watch
something and put a game next to it, listening to a Tivo recording and
then if the game looks like something interesting is going on, I could
switch to it.



OK, TIVO question. TIVO does not support HD so how do you view HD
stuff? Is your HD OTA, Cable or Sat? And are you saying the TIVO
side of the ssplit screen is the one with the sound on and you switch
to the other input if desired.

A primer on how you're hooked up with TIVO, and HD would be nice.

My brain is beginning to hurt thinking about how I would do this.


No my Tivo is standard definition. But I watch standard and HDTV
programming on the set.