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Ed May 30th 06 11:04 AM

Feck feck feck deleted all my dr whos
 
Fecking Panasonic.

I meant to 'finalise' but instead hit 'format' and wiped 5 episodes of
Dr Who that I was backing up from the hard drive. And of course I'd
deleted them frmo the hard drive before I formatted the disc.

No one ever told me i cant finalise a DVD ram. I hate panasonic.


Damon May 30th 06 11:29 AM

Feck feck feck deleted all my dr whos
 

Ed wrote:
Fecking Panasonic.

I meant to 'finalise' but instead hit 'format' and wiped 5 episodes of
Dr Who that I was backing up from the hard drive. And of course I'd
deleted them frmo the hard drive before I formatted the disc.

No one ever told me i cant finalise a DVD ram. I hate panasonic.


So get them off a bittorent site, problem solved

Damon


Mother Farquhar May 30th 06 11:40 AM

Feck feck feck deleted all my dr whos
 

"Damon" wrote in message
ups.com...

Ed wrote:
Fecking Panasonic.

I meant to 'finalise' but instead hit 'format' and wiped 5 episodes of
Dr Who that I was backing up from the hard drive. And of course I'd
deleted them frmo the hard drive before I formatted the disc.

No one ever told me i cant finalise a DVD ram. I hate panasonic.


So get them off a bittorent site, problem solved


But it always seems to take about 22 years to download through Bittorrent
(and I'm on a 10Mbit connection)!



Gaz May 30th 06 12:11 PM

Feck feck feck deleted all my dr whos
 
Mother Farquhar wrote:
"Damon" wrote in message
ups.com...

Ed wrote:
Fecking Panasonic.

I meant to 'finalise' but instead hit 'format' and wiped 5 episodes of
Dr Who that I was backing up from the hard drive. And of course I'd
deleted them frmo the hard drive before I formatted the disc.

No one ever told me i cant finalise a DVD ram. I hate panasonic.


So get them off a bittorent site, problem solved


But it always seems to take about 22 years to download through Bittorrent
(and I'm on a 10Mbit connection)!


Maybe you should make sure your router has the requisite holes....

Some torrents can take a long time, if very few are seeding, but ones where
people are i get full speed (100k on a 1mb line).

Gaz



Ed May 30th 06 12:42 PM

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Were you ever likely to watch them again though?


My kid watches them all the time


No one ever told me i cant finalise a DVD ram. I hate panasonic.

Huh? Does it not say in the manual?

I expect so, but I havent read it


DVDfever Dom May 30th 06 01:22 PM

Feck feck feck deleted all my dr whos
 

Damon wrote:
Ed wrote:
Fecking Panasonic.

I meant to 'finalise' but instead hit 'format' and wiped 5 episodes of
Dr Who that I was backing up from the hard drive. And of course I'd
deleted them frmo the hard drive before I formatted the disc.

No one ever told me i cant finalise a DVD ram. I hate panasonic.


So get them off a bittorent site, problem solved


They won't be in as good quality though. It's rare you get DVD-format
(mpeg2) torrents online due to the size of them.

BTW, I was hoping the originator of this thread was Russell T Davies :)

To save problems like this happening, I got a 400Gb Seagate USB hard
drive and connect that via firewire to my PC. That way, every time I
record something I want to keep I archive it to DVD and convert that to
an .mpg file on the hard drive (the latter is dead easy with a program
like Mpeg Video Wizard) and I do that before I delete it from my TiVo.

That way, you don't end up filling a disc and then finding that part of
the disc was duff and you can't get that episode off it and it was on
weeks ago so there's no chance ot getting it again at the same quality.

I never fill the hard drive as once I've got a disc's worth to make a
DVD out of (eg. a whole series if it's something 6 eps long) then that
space is freed up again.

Dom


Meng May 30th 06 01:44 PM

Feck feck feck deleted all my dr whos
 
Ed wrote:
Fecking Panasonic.

I meant to 'finalise' but instead hit 'format' and wiped 5 episodes of
Dr Who that I was backing up from the hard drive. And of course I'd
deleted them frmo the hard drive before I formatted the disc.

No one ever told me i cant finalise a DVD ram. I hate panasonic.


More feck than feck feck feck I'd say. Feck feck feck would be doing
what you did with something you've had for years on VHS and then
copied over to DVD, and then wiped with very little hope of replacing.

You could always - wow, here's an idea - buy the DVDs.

Blaming Panasonic is a bit harsh. In future, RTFM!

Paul D May 30th 06 01:49 PM

Feck feck feck deleted all my dr whos
 
Ed wrote:
Were you ever likely to watch them again though?


My kid watches them all the time


No one ever told me i cant finalise a DVD ram. I hate panasonic.

Huh? Does it not say in the manual?

I expect so, but I havent read it


So it's not Panasonic's fault, it's yours.



Ed May 30th 06 02:10 PM

Feck feck feck deleted all my dr whos
 
More feck than feck feck feck I'd say. Feck feck feck would be doing what you did with something you've had for years on VHS and then copied over to DVD, and then wiped with very little hope of replacing.

You could always - wow, here's an idea - buy the DVDs.

It's not out yet!

Blaming Panasonic is a bit harsh. In future, RTFM!


I was joking, I've read the manual several times, I just didnt realise
you couldnt finalise DVDRAM, so hit format without properly reading as
that is where finalise usually sits in the menu. So it is partly
panasonics fault, and then again mainly mine for not reading the text
that says 'are you sure you want to format as it will delete anything
on the disc'!


Mike Redrobe May 30th 06 02:14 PM

Feck feck feck deleted all my dr whos
 
Ed wrote:
More feck than feck feck feck I'd say. Feck feck feck would be doing
what you did with something you've had for years on VHS and then
copied over to DVD, and then wiped with very little hope of
replacing.


You could always - wow, here's an idea - buy the DVDs.

It's not out yet!

Blaming Panasonic is a bit harsh. In future, RTFM!


I was joking, I've read the manual several times, I just didnt realise
you couldnt finalise DVDRAM, so hit format without properly reading as
that is where finalise usually sits in the menu.


You should be asking "do data recovery programs work on DVD-RAM disks"?

I don't know the answer ;)

--
Mike



Adrian A May 30th 06 02:15 PM

Feck feck feck deleted all my dr whos
 
Ed wrote:
More feck than feck feck feck I'd say. Feck feck feck would be doing
what you did with something you've had for years on VHS and then
copied over to DVD, and then wiped with very little hope of
replacing.


You could always - wow, here's an idea - buy the DVDs.

It's not out yet!

Blaming Panasonic is a bit harsh. In future, RTFM!


I was joking, I've read the manual several times, I just didnt realise
you couldnt finalise DVDRAM, so hit format without properly reading as
that is where finalise usually sits in the menu. So it is partly
panasonics fault, and then again mainly mine for not reading the text
that says 'are you sure you want to format as it will delete anything
on the disc'!


They do seem to be releasing the Dr. Who DVDs fairly quickly, so I doubt
you'll have too long to wait before you can buy it.
--
Adrian



DVDfever Dom May 30th 06 04:49 PM

Feck feck feck deleted all my dr whos
 

Ed Chilada wrote:
On 30 May 2006 04:22:15 -0700, "DVDfever Dom"
wrote:

To save problems like this happening, I got a 400Gb Seagate USB hard
drive and connect that via firewire to my PC. That way, every time I
record something I want to keep I archive it to DVD and convert that to
an .mpg file on the hard drive (the latter is dead easy with a program
like Mpeg Video Wizard) and I do that before I delete it from my TiVo.


How do you get the video off the Tivo? I've done this myself after
fitting a turbonet card (or whatever it's called), and then being able
to get .ty files from the Tivo over FTP. ISTR I also installed a codec
which allows me to then view them in Media Player. However, being able
to edit them or convert them to anything else seems to be a
non-starter. Is there something I should use - perhaps the
aforementioned Video Wizard?


I record to DVD+RW (often in 3hr mode so I can get six 30-min eps of a
BBC series on a disc - any lower quality and it really can suffer, and
given how cheap DVD-Rs are - the disc-type it finally ends up on -
there's no need to skimp on such things) which I copy to the PC with
DVD Decrypter and that'll store the individual programmes as .vob
files, which can then be imported into Mpeg Video Wizard.

Dom


Ed May 30th 06 04:54 PM

Feck feck feck deleted all my dr whos
 
I record to DVD+RW (often in 3hr mode so I can get six 30-min eps of a BBC series on a disc - any lower quality and it really can suffer, and given how cheap DVD-Rs are - the disc-type it finally ends up on - there's no need to skimp on such things) which I copy to the PC with DVD Decrypter and that'll store the individual programmes as .vob files, which can then be imported into Mpeg Video Wizard.

Must be a pain watching them at 2x speed though, they last 45 minutes
on my tv!


SteveW May 30th 06 05:02 PM

Feck feck feck deleted all my dr whos
 
On Tue, 30 May 2006 15:54:33 +0100, Ed wrote:

I record to DVD+RW (often in 3hr mode so I can get six 30-min eps of a
BBC series on a disc - any lower quality and it really can suffer, and
given how cheap DVD-Rs are - the disc-type it finally ends up on -
there's no need to skimp on such things) which I copy to the PC with
DVD Decrypter and that'll store the individual programmes as .vob
files, which can then be imported into Mpeg Video Wizard.


Must be a pain watching them at 2x speed though, they last 45 minutes
on my tv!


"of *a* BBC series", not current Dr Who ones.

--
Steve (3)

DVDfever Dom May 30th 06 05:03 PM

Feck feck feck deleted all my dr whos
 

Adrian A wrote:
Ed wrote:
More feck than feck feck feck I'd say. Feck feck feck would be doing
what you did with something you've had for years on VHS and then
copied over to DVD, and then wiped with very little hope of
replacing.


You could always - wow, here's an idea - buy the DVDs.

It's not out yet!

Blaming Panasonic is a bit harsh. In future, RTFM!


I was joking, I've read the manual several times, I just didnt realise
you couldnt finalise DVDRAM, so hit format without properly reading as
that is where finalise usually sits in the menu. So it is partly
panasonics fault, and then again mainly mine for not reading the text
that says 'are you sure you want to format as it will delete anything
on the disc'!


They do seem to be releasing the Dr. Who DVDs fairly quickly, so I doubt
you'll have too long to wait before you can buy it.


But the individual DVDs seem a bit of a rush-job whereas the
whole-series boxset will be out some time in Oct/Nov so I'd rather wait
until then for better quality.

I'm not sure if this is the case with Doctor Who, but sometimes with
things like this you just get the Dolby Surround sound on the quick
releases while the eventual whole-series boxset has DD5.1 as they've
had more time to sort that out, and I could tell that would be an
obvious essential in the werewolf episode as when they were trapped in
a room and looked all around. The sound was bland on TV but mixed in
DD5.1 would sound superb.

Dom


steeler May 30th 06 05:27 PM

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"Mother Farquhar" wrote in message
...

"Damon" wrote in message
ups.com...

Ed wrote:
Fecking Panasonic.

I meant to 'finalise' but instead hit 'format' and wiped 5 episodes of
Dr Who that I was backing up from the hard drive. And of course I'd
deleted them frmo the hard drive before I formatted the disc.

No one ever told me i cant finalise a DVD ram. I hate panasonic.


So get them off a bittorent site, problem solved


But it always seems to take about 22 years to download through Bittorrent
(and I'm on a 10Mbit connection)!


Then get yourself on a private site.



steeler May 30th 06 05:29 PM

Feck feck feck deleted all my dr whos
 

"DVDfever Dom" wrote in message
ups.com...

Damon wrote:
Ed wrote:
Fecking Panasonic.

I meant to 'finalise' but instead hit 'format' and wiped 5 episodes of
Dr Who that I was backing up from the hard drive. And of course I'd
deleted them frmo the hard drive before I formatted the disc.

No one ever told me i cant finalise a DVD ram. I hate panasonic.


So get them off a bittorent site, problem solved


They won't be in as good quality though. It's rare you get DVD-format
(mpeg2) torrents online due to the size of them.


So he should buy or rip the DVD when it comes out. Sounds like he has
already seen them and only wants them for the collection anyway.



steeler May 30th 06 05:30 PM

Feck feck feck deleted all my dr whos
 

"Mike Redrobe" wrote in message
. uk...
Ed wrote:
More feck than feck feck feck I'd say. Feck feck feck would be doing
what you did with something you've had for years on VHS and then
copied over to DVD, and then wiped with very little hope of
replacing.


You could always - wow, here's an idea - buy the DVDs.

It's not out yet!

Blaming Panasonic is a bit harsh. In future, RTFM!


I was joking, I've read the manual several times, I just didnt realise
you couldnt finalise DVDRAM, so hit format without properly reading as
that is where finalise usually sits in the menu.


You should be asking "do data recovery programs work on DVD-RAM disks"?

I don't know the answer ;)


Depends on if it was quick format or proper format.



POD {Ò¿Ó} May 30th 06 08:39 PM

Feck feck feck deleted all my dr whos
 
"Mother Farquhar" once tried to test me. I ate their
liver with some fava beans and a nice chianti


"Damon" wrote in message
ups.com...

Ed wrote:
Fecking Panasonic.

I meant to 'finalise' but instead hit 'format' and wiped 5 episodes
of Dr Who that I was backing up from the hard drive. And of course
I'd deleted them frmo the hard drive before I formatted the disc.

No one ever told me i cant finalise a DVD ram. I hate panasonic.


So get them off a bittorent site, problem solved


But it always seems to take about 22 years to download through
Bittorrent (and I'm on a 10Mbit connection)!



Get them from alt.binaries.drwho, where someone called WhoFan posts a DVD
every week with the episode, the trainer, the confidential, the kiddies
"totally Dr Who" and any other stuff from that week. He does titles and
all, I hope he doesn't lose his virginity anytime soon.

--
Thank you kindly

POD {Ò¿Ó}
¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸¸ .·´¯`·.¸
Oh people, know that you have committed great sins.
If you ask me what proof I have for these words,
I say it is because I am the punishment of God.
If you had not committed great sins,
God would not have sent a punishment like me upon you.
¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.¸¸ .·´¯`·.¸


Mike Redrobe May 30th 06 08:42 PM

Feck feck feck deleted all my dr whos
 
Mike Redrobe wrote:
Ed wrote:
More feck than feck feck feck I'd say. Feck feck feck would be doing
what you did with something you've had for years on VHS and then
copied over to DVD, and then wiped with very little hope of
replacing.

I just didnt
realise you couldnt finalise DVDRAM, so hit format without properly
reading as that is where finalise usually sits in the menu.


You should be asking "do data recovery programs work on DVD-RAM
disks"?
I don't know the answer ;)


I do now...

Isobuster will recover from a formatted DVD-RAM
- I tried it with a camcorder formatted disk, as I was archiving it anyway.

--
Mike




Colin Wilson May 30th 06 10:33 PM

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Fecking Panasonic.
I meant to 'finalise' but instead hit 'format' and wiped 5 episodes of
Dr Who that I was backing up from the hard drive. And of course I'd
deleted them frmo the hard drive before I formatted the disc.


What are the odds of scanning the drive from another machine with
recovery software ?

neil h May 30th 06 10:34 PM

Feck feck feck deleted all my dr whos
 
Ed wrote:
Fecking Panasonic.

I meant to 'finalise' but instead hit 'format' and wiped 5 episodes of
Dr Who that I was backing up from the hard drive. And of course I'd
deleted them frmo the hard drive before I formatted the disc.

No one ever told me i cant finalise a DVD ram. I hate panasonic.


If you can't wait for the box set you can buy the dvds from play.com for
£10.99 ...

--
neil h.
"You live and learn. At any rate, you live." - Douglas Adams

Animal Crossing : Satsuma in Dogwood 064 485 635 776

Dom Robinson May 30th 06 11:05 PM

Feck feck feck deleted all my dr whos
 
In article ,
says...

"DVDfever Dom" wrote in message
ups.com...

Damon wrote:
Ed wrote:
Fecking Panasonic.

I meant to 'finalise' but instead hit 'format' and wiped 5 episodes of
Dr Who that I was backing up from the hard drive. And of course I'd
deleted them frmo the hard drive before I formatted the disc.

No one ever told me i cant finalise a DVD ram. I hate panasonic.

So get them off a bittorent site, problem solved


They won't be in as good quality though. It's rare you get DVD-format
(mpeg2) torrents online due to the size of them.


So he should buy or rip the DVD when it comes out. Sounds like he has
already seen them and only wants them for the collection anyway.


Not everything comes out on DVD though.
--

Dom Robinson Gamertag: DVDfever email: dom at dvdfever dot co dot uk
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Dom Robinson May 30th 06 11:05 PM

Feck feck feck deleted all my dr whos
 
In article , {$usenet-spamdump$}
@mrtickle.demon.co.uk says...
In , Ed Chilada
wrote:

On 30 May 2006 04:22:15 -0700, "DVDfever Dom"
wrote:

To save problems like this happening, I got a 400Gb Seagate USB hard
drive and connect that via firewire to my PC. That way, every time I
record something I want to keep I archive it to DVD and convert that to
an .mpg file on the hard drive (the latter is dead easy with a program
like Mpeg Video Wizard) and I do that before I delete it from my TiVo.


How do you get the video off the Tivo? I've done this myself after
fitting a turbonet card (or whatever it's called), and then being able
to get .ty files from the Tivo over FTP.


Use TyTool (http://www.dealdatabase.com/forum/sh...ad.php?t=47025 and
http://www.tytool.com/tytemplates/FAQ/default.aspx). It gets the files
off faster than FTP, lets you do frame-accurate editing and converts the
audio to 48kHz for DVD *without* re-encoding the video, creates a DVD
fileset complete with a menu and then all you have to do is burn the
fileset as a DVD-Video. Be prepared to read a lot of FAQs and go up a
learning curve; the quality of the results are worth it. HTH

One point to note about Mpeg Video Wizard, when getting a DVD-format mpeg out
of the .vob files, it doesn't convert them either, they just pass-through
quite quickly.

I discovered it shortly after registering TMPGEnc. D'oh :)
--

Dom Robinson Gamertag: DVDfever email: dom at dvdfever dot co dot uk
/* http://DVDfever.co.uk (editor)
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Alex Buell May 30th 06 11:24 PM

Feck feck feck deleted all my dr whos
 
On 30 May 2006 02:04:39 -0700, I waved a wand and this message
magically appeared:

I meant to 'finalise' but instead hit 'format' and wiped 5 episodes of
Dr Who that I was backing up from the hard drive. And of course I'd
deleted them frmo the hard drive before I formatted the disc.


Are there any episodes that comes with subtitles available on the 'net?
I'd be very happy.
--
http://www.munted.org.uk

Take a nap, it saves lives.

Dom Robinson June 2nd 06 12:10 AM

Feck feck feck deleted all my dr whos
 
In article ,
says...
On Tue, 30 May 2006 22:24:58 +0100, Alex Buell
wrote:

On 30 May 2006 02:04:39 -0700, I waved a wand and this message
magically appeared:

I meant to 'finalise' but instead hit 'format' and wiped 5 episodes of
Dr Who that I was backing up from the hard drive. And of course I'd
deleted them frmo the hard drive before I formatted the disc.


Are there any episodes that comes with subtitles available on the 'net?
I'd be very happy.


Ah of course.. I guess it's Doctor What? for you!

gag intended in good spirits

I wouldn't mind subtitled torrents. It'd save me having to wait for E4 to show
ER.
--

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[email protected] June 2nd 06 04:34 PM

Feck feck feck deleted all my dr whos
 

Ed wrote:
Fecking Panasonic.

I meant to 'finalise' but instead hit 'format' and wiped 5 episodes of
Dr Who that I was backing up from the hard drive. And of course I'd
deleted them frmo the hard drive before I formatted the disc.


Which one should NEVER do.

No one ever told me i cant finalise a DVD ram.


Apart from the manual, of course.



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