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In article ,
Stewart Smith wrote:
John Cartmell wrote:
In article ,
Big Al Big wrote:
The FTV cards are specific to Channel 4, five & Sky Three.

And the TV licence is specific to the BBC

No it isn't. The TV licence is *not* payment for watching BBC programs
but for having broadcast receiving equipment.


Don't Channel 4 and possibly ITV get some money from it as well for
their public service broadcasts? Like regional programming for
instance. Or has that all stopped now?

don't think it ever started. It was a proposal made during the last
consultation phase.

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Using a RISC OS5 computer

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"Phil Cook" wrote in message
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"Big Al" Big wrote:


"Nigel Barker" wrote

The FTV cards are specific to Channel 4, five & Sky Three.

And the TV licence is specific to the BBC

The licence fee is specific to all television in the UK, you can't get
out of buying one by not watching Auntie.



I seem to manage to avoid it. ;-)

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"John Cartmell" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Big Al Big wrote:
The FTV cards are specific to Channel 4, five & Sky Three.

And the TV licence is specific to the BBC

No it isn't. The TV licence is *not* payment for watching BBC programs but
for
having broadcast receiving equipment.

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No its not. It's for having broadcast receiving equipment *installed* with
the *intent* to *use* to receive *live* television programmes.

You can have as many unlicensed TV sets as you like providing you do not
intall it or *intend* to use it to receive live television programmes.

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Heracles Pollux wrote:
No its not. It's for having broadcast receiving equipment *installed*
with the *intent* to *use* to receive *live* television programmes.

********. Where does this *live* aspect come from?

Sounds like you're a licence-dodger, expecting the rest of us to
subsidise your viewing.

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"Pyriform" wrote in message
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Heracles Pollux wrote:
No its not. It's for having broadcast receiving equipment *installed*
with the *intent* to *use* to receive *live* television programmes.

********. Where does this *live* aspect come from?


The "TV Licensing Authority" and the Secretary of State who defines the
meaning of The Communactions Act 2003 section 363 to 368 legislation.

http://www.tvlicensing.biz/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=590


Sounds like you're a licence-dodger, expecting the rest of us to subsidise
your viewing.


I refuse to pay the BBC's TV Licence. I prefer the term quality loving
"patriot" to "dodger".

I don't expect *you* to subsidise my viewing nor will I be *subsidising*
your usage of the BBC.

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Heracles Pollux wrote:
Sounds like you're a licence-dodger, expecting the rest of us to
subsidise your viewing.

I refuse to pay the BBC's TV Licence. I prefer the term quality loving
"patriot" to "dodger".

Actually, I prefer the term "common thief". It has a certain seedy charm
to it, and helps to reinforce the image of you which is currently
developing in my mind.

No doubt you will wish to have your personal exemption from the licence
fee tested in a court of law. I look forward to reading about it.

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"Pyriform" wrote in message
...
Heracles Pollux wrote:
Sounds like you're a licence-dodger, expecting the rest of us to
subsidise your viewing.

I refuse to pay the BBC's TV Licence. I prefer the term quality loving
"patriot" to "dodger".

Actually, I prefer the term "common thief". It has a certain seedy charm
to it, and helps to reinforce the image of you which is currently
developing in my mind.

No doubt you will wish to have your personal exemption from the licence
fee tested in a court of law. I look forward to reading about it.



There are 2 million "common thieves" as you call it or about 5% of the
population who don't pay the TV Licence.

Excuse me, **** head, but by the common law definition of "theft", what
exactly has someone who infringes section 363 of the Communications Act 2003
stolen or deprived the owner of?

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Heracles Pollux wrote:
There are 2 million "common thieves" as you call it or about 5% of the
population who don't pay the TV Licence.

I'm failing to see your point. You wish to be called a "*very* common
thief"? If it's exclusivity you were hoping for, you seem to be in the
wrong game!

Excuse me, **** head, but by the common law definition of "theft",
what exactly has someone who infringes section 363 of the
Communications Act 2003 stolen or deprived the owner of?

It is self evident that those of us who pay our licence fees are obliged
to make up for the shortfall in revenue occasioned by criminals such as
you. You have therefore stolen *money* from the law abiding majority.
Shoplifters do the same, and no doubt bleat in a similar fashion to you
when confronted with their crimes.

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Zero Tolerance wrote:
On 30 May 2006 09:10:23 -0700, "Mark Carver"
wrote:


But you pay for a TV licence, so BBC1 must be 'pay-tv' too.

So when my FTV card expires (because Sky change the encryption scheme)
it will be replaced by Sky free of charge ? If not, then in my book
that's an 'ongoing cost' ?


No more an ongoing cost than buying a new TV every time the old one
breaks, and not one which is specific to any particular TV channel in
any case.

But it's not quite the same. If my electricity meter breaks, the local supply
company replace it FOC, though of course I still pay for the actual electricity used.

If an electrical appliance breaks, I pay for a new one.

A FTV card, is Sky's 'revenue protection' device, just as the Lekky Meter
is for my supply company. It's interesting to note that if a Sky sub card
needs replacing, then that is done FOC (unless damaged by the viewer).

--
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In article ,
Heracles Pollux wrote:
There are 2 million "common thieves" as you call it or about 5% of the
population who don't pay the TV Licence.

You may prefer the description "parasite". It fits.

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