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FilmFour free on Sky?
Has anyone confirmed whether FimFour will be free (FTA or FTV) on Sky when
it launches on Freeview in July? Don't want a repeat of the E4/More 4 situation... |
FilmFour free on Sky?
"Brian Wescombe" wrote Has anyone confirmed whether FimFour will be free (FTA or FTV) on Sky when it launches on Freeview in July? Don't want a repeat of the E4/More 4 situation... http://www.channel4.com/film/ffchann..._filmfour.html John Howells |
FilmFour free on Sky?
John Howells wrote:
"Brian Wescombe" wrote Has anyone confirmed whether FimFour will be free (FTA or FTV) on Sky when it launches on Freeview in July? Don't want a repeat of the E4/More 4 situation... http://www.channel4.com/film/ffchann..._filmfour.html John Howells That site doesn't make it clear whether it will be FTA or FTV even though they use the term 'free to air' I suspect it will be free to view as, Channel 4, currently is. -- Adrian |
FilmFour free on Sky?
"Brian Wescombe" wrote in message ... Has anyone confirmed whether FimFour will be free (FTA or FTV) on Sky when it launches on Freeview in July? Don't want a repeat of the E4/More 4 situation... We had a fiasco with E4 in 2001 and now new-improved-DOG-free MORE4 being "free to air" to Sky subscribers only. I will believe it when I see it! I shall be personally writing a letter of thanks to Andy Duncan if FilmFour appears DOG-free and free-to-air. We will see if Sky ****s them over. |
FilmFour free on Sky?
"Adrian A" wrote in message ... That site doesn't make it clear whether it will be FTA or FTV even though they use the term 'free to air' I suspect it will be free to view as, Channel 4, currently is. It looks like it wiill be FTA - they do make it clear on the site that it will be on freesat. "How will I receive FilmFour? The channel will launch on Freeview for the first time and will continue to be available to all cable and satellite viewers at no additional cost. On digital satellite, the FilmFour Channel will be available to freesat viewers as well as Sky digital subscribers. " Loz |
FilmFour free on Sky?
The channel will launch on Freeview for the first time and will continue to be available to all cable and satellite viewers at no additional cost. On digital satellite, the FilmFour Channel will be available to freesat viewers as well as Sky digital subscribers. " I suspect it will be ftv. Freesat meaning FTV, ie card required, sky box only. Thats us buggered in Ireland then. |
FilmFour free on Sky?
On Tue, 23 May 2006 21:56:31 +0100, "John Howells"
wrote: | |"Brian Wescombe" wrote | | Has anyone confirmed whether FimFour will be free (FTA or FTV) on Sky when | it launches on Freeview in July? | | Don't want a repeat of the E4/More 4 situation... | |http://www.channel4.com/film/ffchann..._filmfour.html Hurray! Perhaps a Straw in the Wind for Ch4 and the rest of its channels. -- Dave Fawthrop dave hyphenologist co uk Google Groups is IME the *worst* method of accessing usenet. GG subscribers would be well advised get a newsreader, say Agent, and a newsserver, say news.individual.net. These will allow them: to see only *new* posts, a killfile, and other goodies. |
FilmFour free on Sky?
On Tue, 23 May 2006 22:04:15 +0100, "Adrian A" wrote:
|John Howells wrote: | "Brian Wescombe" wrote | | Has anyone confirmed whether FimFour will be free (FTA or FTV) on | Sky when it launches on Freeview in July? | | Don't want a repeat of the E4/More 4 situation... | | http://www.channel4.com/film/ffchann..._filmfour.html When will FilmFour go free-to-air? July 2006. Why is FilmFour going free-to-air? It is Channel 4's ambition to widen its digital offering, so that a greater range of programming is available within digital homes. |That site doesn't make it clear whether it will be FTA or FTV even though |they use the term 'free to air' I suspect it will be free to view as, |Channel 4, currently is. It definitely says Free To Air :-) -- Dave Fawthrop dave hyphenologist co uk Google Groups is IME the *worst* method of accessing usenet. GG subscribers would be well advised get a newsreader, say Agent, and a newsserver, say news.individual.net. These will allow them: to see only *new* posts, a killfile, and other goodies. |
FilmFour free on Sky?
loz wrote:
It looks like it wiill be FTA - " On digital satellite, the FilmFour Channel will be available to freesat viewers as well as Sky digital subscribers. " That would mean FTV, not FTA. -- Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these. The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/8vef5 UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73 BBC reception questions? ; http://www.astra2d.com/ Fed up with on-screen logos? : http://logofreetv.org/ ---- Only the truth as I see it. No monies return'd. ;-) |
FilmFour free on Sky?
"loz" wrote in message ... "Adrian A" wrote in message ... That site doesn't make it clear whether it will be FTA or FTV even though they use the term 'free to air' I suspect it will be free to view as, Channel 4, currently is. It looks like it wiill be FTA - they do make it clear on the site that it will be on freesat. "How will I receive FilmFour? The channel will launch on Freeview for the first time and will continue to be available to all cable and satellite viewers at no additional cost. On digital satellite, the FilmFour Channel will be available to freesat viewers as well as Sky digital subscribers. " Loz Cool thanks! |
FilmFour free on Sky?
"Brian Wescombe" wrote in message ... That site doesn't make it clear whether it will be FTA or FTV even though they use the term 'free to air' I suspect it will be free to view as, Channel 4, currently is. It looks like it wiill be FTA - they do make it clear on the site that it will be on freesat. "How will I receive FilmFour? The channel will launch on Freeview for the first time and will continue to be available to all cable and satellite viewers at no additional cost. On digital satellite, the FilmFour Channel will be available to freesat viewers as well as Sky digital subscribers. " Cool thanks! Well, I wouldn't count my chickens just yet. Thinking more about it, the statement is still a bit ambiguous. If it was truely, fully FTA, then why make an explicit comment about "Sky digital subscribers" - as in it will be available to *subscribers*? Does that mean if you have a Sky box you must be a subscriber to a sky package to pick up Film4? But people with other non-sky satellite receivers can pick it up FTA? who knows. C4 did make similar statements about More 4 that turned out not to be FTA on sky Loz |
FilmFour free on Sky?
"loz"
who knows. C4 did make similar statements about More 4 that turned out not to be FTA on sky I've asked C4 by email whether it will be properly FTA, and reminded them that FreesatFromSky is about twice the price of other freesat sets. I'll let you know what comes back. 4 For All! -- MJR/slef Sat FAQ: http://mjr.towers.org.uk/blog/2006/astefaq |
FilmFour free on Sky?
"loz" wrote in message ... "Brian Wescombe" wrote in message ... That site doesn't make it clear whether it will be FTA or FTV even though they use the term 'free to air' I suspect it will be free to view as, Channel 4, currently is. It looks like it wiill be FTA - they do make it clear on the site that it will be on freesat. "How will I receive FilmFour? The channel will launch on Freeview for the first time and will continue to be available to all cable and satellite viewers at no additional cost. On digital satellite, the FilmFour Channel will be available to freesat viewers as well as Sky digital subscribers. " Cool thanks! Well, I wouldn't count my chickens just yet. Thinking more about it, the statement is still a bit ambiguous. If it was truely, fully FTA, then why make an explicit comment about "Sky digital subscribers" - as in it will be available to *subscribers*? Does that mean if you have a Sky box you must be a subscriber to a sky package to pick up Film4? But people with other non-sky satellite receivers can pick it up FTA? How would that work then? For it to be available on non-Sky boxes it would have to be fully FTA (not encrypted), which means a Sky box would be able to receive it without a viewing card. |
FilmFour free on Sky?
"Jomtien" wrote in message ... loz wrote: It looks like it wiill be FTA - " On digital satellite, the FilmFour Channel will be available to freesat viewers as well as Sky digital subscribers. " That would mean FTV, not FTA. That sentence that you focused on could be interpreted in that way, yes. But other parts of the paragraph make it ambiguous "The channel will launch on Freeview for the first time and will continue to be available to all cable and satellite viewers at no additional cost. On digital satellite, the FilmFour Channel will be available to freesat viewers as well as Sky digital subscribers." e.g. "available to all cable and satellite viewers at no additional cost" all? whether you subscribe to Sky or not? no additional cost? well if you are already a subscriber, no additional cost would be a true statement. However, at least FTV means that it should not be part of a sky subscription package, (though still require a Sky viewing card) So as usual C4 find it difficult to be precise about what they actually mean and the people who write such statements there would seem to still not fully understand the difference between FTA and FTV, or between Freesat, Sky, and Freesatfromsky. Loz |
FilmFour free on Sky?
"Brian Wescombe" wrote in message ... If it was truely, fully FTA, then why make an explicit comment about "Sky digital subscribers" - as in it will be available to *subscribers*? Does that mean if you have a Sky box you must be a subscriber to a sky package to pick up Film4? But people with other non-sky satellite receivers can pick it up FTA? How would that work then? For it to be available on non-Sky boxes it would have to be fully FTA (not encrypted), which means a Sky box would be able to receive it without a viewing card. I agree, that's why I was asking the question about being explicit in their statements about Sky *subscribers*. Why make such a statement if it is FTA, unless of course it is just trying to be inclusive, as in Sky subscibers will also get it by virtue of the fact they they get all FTA channels anyway. Loz |
FilmFour free on Sky?
On 24 May 2006 10:50:05 GMT, MJ Ray wrote:
"loz" who knows. C4 did make similar statements about More 4 that turned out not to be FTA on sky I've asked C4 by email whether it will be properly FTA, and reminded them that FreesatFromSky is about twice the price of other freesat sets. I'll let you know what comes back. Our local Carrefour has FTA digital satellite receivers for just 37 Euros or just over twenty pounds! -- Nigel Barker Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur |
FilmFour free on Sky?
MJ Ray wrote:
"loz" who knows. C4 did make similar statements about More 4 that turned out not to be FTA on sky I've asked C4 by email whether it will be properly FTA, and reminded them that FreesatFromSky is about twice the price of other freesat sets. I'll let you know what comes back. 4 For All! I wonder if your email will reach someone that understands the question. -- Adrian |
FilmFour free on Sky?
In message , loz
writes "The channel will launch on Freeview for the first time and will continue to be available to all cable and satellite viewers at no additional cost. On digital satellite, the FilmFour Channel will be available to freesat viewers as well as Sky digital subscribers." All this is saying is that Sky subscribers will not lose Film Four. -- Ian |
FilmFour free on Sky?
"Ian" wrote in message ... In message , loz writes "The channel will launch on Freeview for the first time and will continue to be available to all cable and satellite viewers at no additional cost. On digital satellite, the FilmFour Channel will be available to freesat viewers as well as Sky digital subscribers." All this is saying is that Sky subscribers will not lose Film Four. I think it is saying, or trying to say a bit more than that. Clearly it is saying something about cost, and availability on Freeview and Freesat Loz |
FilmFour free on Sky?
Nigel Barker wrote:
On 24 May 2006 10:50:05 GMT, MJ Ray wrote: "loz" who knows. C4 did make similar statements about More 4 that turned out not to be FTA on sky I've asked C4 by email whether it will be properly FTA, and reminded them that FreesatFromSky is about twice the price of other freesat sets. I'll let you know what comes back. Our local Carrefour has FTA digital satellite receivers for just 37 Euros or just over twenty pounds! Just over twenty-five pounds, good value. -- Adrian |
FilmFour free on Sky?
"loz" wrote in message ... "Ian" wrote in message ... In message , loz writes "The channel will launch on Freeview for the first time and will continue to be available to all cable and satellite viewers at no additional cost. On digital satellite, the FilmFour Channel will be available to freesat viewers as well as Sky digital subscribers." All this is saying is that Sky subscribers will not lose Film Four. I think it is saying, or trying to say a bit more than that. Clearly it is saying something about cost, and availability on Freeview and Freesat Loz It says something about the C4's marketing and public relations muppets that no one can understand what they write. |
FilmFour free on Sky?
On Wed, 24 May 2006 14:14:53 +0100, "Adrian A" wrote:
Nigel Barker wrote: On 24 May 2006 10:50:05 GMT, MJ Ray wrote: "loz" who knows. C4 did make similar statements about More 4 that turned out not to be FTA on sky I've asked C4 by email whether it will be properly FTA, and reminded them that FreesatFromSky is about twice the price of other freesat sets. I'll let you know what comes back. Our local Carrefour has FTA digital satellite receivers for just 37 Euros or just over twenty pounds! Just over twenty-five pounds, good value. Quite correct. My mistake. 25.24843 GBP according to www.oanda.com -- Nigel Barker Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur |
FilmFour free on Sky?
On Wed, 24 May 2006 16:05:07 GMT, Nigel Barker wrote:
On Wed, 24 May 2006 14:14:53 +0100, "Adrian A" wrote: Nigel Barker wrote: On 24 May 2006 10:50:05 GMT, MJ Ray wrote: "loz" who knows. C4 did make similar statements about More 4 that turned out not to be FTA on sky I've asked C4 by email whether it will be properly FTA, and reminded them that FreesatFromSky is about twice the price of other freesat sets. I'll let you know what comes back. Our local Carrefour has FTA digital satellite receivers for just 37 Euros or just over twenty pounds! Just over twenty-five pounds, good value. Quite correct. My mistake. 25.24843 GBP according to www.oanda.com For about the same price I just saw a complete FTA analogue system in our local DIY superstore. Includes receiver, dish, LNB, cable etc -- Nigel Barker Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur |
FilmFour free on Sky?
loz wrote:
So as usual C4 find it difficult to be precise about what they actually mean and the people who write such statements there would seem to still not fully understand the difference between FTA and FTV, or between Freesat, Sky, and Freesatfromsky. Not just C4. All the PR people in broadcasting (and Ofcom for that matter) seem not to know the difference between FTA and FTV and pay. -- Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these. The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/8vef5 UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73 BBC reception questions? ; http://www.astra2d.com/ Fed up with on-screen logos? : http://logofreetv.org/ ---- Only the truth as I see it. No monies return'd. ;-) |
FilmFour free on Sky?
MJ Ray wrote:
I've asked C4 by email whether it will be properly FTA, and reminded them that FreesatFromSky is about twice the price of other freesat sets. Hmm. FreesatfromSky is £150 installed. I think you would be hard put to find anyone to supply and install a new dish and box for £75. I certainly wouldn't do it. -- Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these. The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/8vef5 UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73 BBC reception questions? ; http://www.astra2d.com/ Fed up with on-screen logos? : http://logofreetv.org/ ---- Only the truth as I see it. No monies return'd. ;-) |
FilmFour free on Sky?
Nigel Barker wrote:
Our local Carrefour has FTA digital satellite receivers for just 37 Euros or just over twenty pounds! I doubt that the build quality is anywhere near that of a current Sky box. -- Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these. The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/8vef5 UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73 BBC reception questions? ; http://www.astra2d.com/ Fed up with on-screen logos? : http://logofreetv.org/ ---- Only the truth as I see it. No monies return'd. ;-) |
FilmFour free on Sky?
Jomtien
Not just C4. All the PR people in broadcasting (and Ofcom for that matter) seem not to know the difference between FTA and FTV and pay. Ofcom knew enough to exclude FTA sets from the official statistics. Why the $DEITY is Ofcom allowed to compile them instead of ONS? -- MJR/slef Sat FAQ: http://mjr.towers.org.uk/blog/2006/astefaq |
FilmFour free on Sky?
Jomtien
Hmm. FreesatfromSky is €150 installed. I think you would be hard put to find anyone to supply and install a new dish and box for €75. I certainly wouldn't do it. It's not difficult to bolt on one dish and run a length of cable, while the nearby Sky installations look pretty shoddy and the in-laws Sky box seemed to be forever failing. No way is that install + C4/five worth an 80 quid premium. |
FilmFour free on Sky?
Adrian A wrote:
~ Nigel Barker wrote: ~ ~ On 24 May 2006 10:50:05 GMT, MJ Ray wrote: ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ "loz" ~ ~ ~ ~ who knows. C4 did make similar statements about More 4 that ~ ~ ~ ~ turned out not to be FTA on sky ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ I've asked C4 by email whether it will be properly FTA, and ~ ~ ~ reminded them that FreesatFromSky is about twice the price of ~ ~ ~ other freesat sets. ~ ~ ~ I'll let you know what comes back. ~ ~ ~ ~ Our local Carrefour has FTA digital satellite receivers for just 37 ~ ~ Euros or just over twenty pounds! ~ ~ Just over twenty-five pounds, good value. 26 pounds 50.4297 pence at this precise moment ;-) -- RKP |
FilmFour free on Sky?
R K Pelligo wrote:
Adrian A wrote: ~ Nigel Barker wrote: ~ ~ On 24 May 2006 10:50:05 GMT, MJ Ray wrote: ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ "loz" ~ ~ ~ ~ who knows. C4 did make similar statements about More 4 that ~ ~ ~ ~ turned out not to be FTA on sky ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ I've asked C4 by email whether it will be properly FTA, and ~ ~ ~ reminded them that FreesatFromSky is about twice the price of ~ ~ ~ other freesat sets. ~ ~ ~ I'll let you know what comes back. ~ ~ ~ ~ Our local Carrefour has FTA digital satellite receivers for just 37 ~ ~ Euros or just over twenty pounds! ~ ~ Just over twenty-five pounds, good value. 26 pounds 50.4297 pence at this precise moment ;-) I don't know where you get your figure from but it's way out. 37 euros = £25.2622 -- Adrian |
FilmFour free on Sky?
Adrian A wrote:
~ R K Pelligo wrote: ~ ~ Adrian A wrote: ~ ~ ~ ~ Nigel Barker wrote: ~ ~ ~ On 24 May 2006 10:50:05 GMT, MJ Ray wrote: ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ "loz" ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ who knows. C4 did make similar statements about More 4 ~ that ~ ~ ~ ~ turned out not to be FTA on sky ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ I've asked C4 by email whether it will be properly FTA, and ~ ~ ~ ~ reminded them that FreesatFromSky is about twice the price of ~ ~ ~ ~ other freesat sets. ~ ~ ~ ~ I'll let you know what comes back. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Our local Carrefour has FTA digital satellite receivers for ~ just 37 ~ ~ Euros or just over twenty pounds! ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Just over twenty-five pounds, good value. ~ ~ ~ ~ 26 pounds 50.4297 pence at this precise moment ;-) ~ ~ I don't know where you get your figure from but it's way out. ~ 37 euros = #25.2622 ~ I challenge you, today, to go into a bank, PO or travel agent and buy Euros @ 1.4646 to the pound. If you succeed, please let me know where so I can get some too ;-) -- RKP |
FilmFour free on Sky?
On Thu, 25 May 2006 15:43:39 GMT, "R K Pelligo"
wrote: Adrian A wrote: ~ R K Pelligo wrote: ~ ~ Adrian A wrote: ~ ~ ~ ~ Nigel Barker wrote: ~ ~ ~ On 24 May 2006 10:50:05 GMT, MJ Ray wrote: ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ "loz" ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ who knows. C4 did make similar statements about More 4 ~ that ~ ~ ~ ~ turned out not to be FTA on sky ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ I've asked C4 by email whether it will be properly FTA, and ~ ~ ~ ~ reminded them that FreesatFromSky is about twice the price of ~ ~ ~ ~ other freesat sets. ~ ~ ~ ~ I'll let you know what comes back. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Our local Carrefour has FTA digital satellite receivers for ~ just 37 ~ ~ Euros or just over twenty pounds! ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Just over twenty-five pounds, good value. ~ ~ ~ ~ 26 pounds 50.4297 pence at this precise moment ;-) ~ ~ I don't know where you get your figure from but it's way out. ~ 37 euros = #25.2622 ~ I challenge you, today, to go into a bank, PO or travel agent and buy Euros @ 1.4646 to the pound. If you succeed, please let me know where so I can get some too ;-) I checked the current bank rate 1.4644 Use a decent credit card eg. Liverpool Victoria to buy the goods and that is close to what you will get. Use a Bad one like 99% of the credit cards then you will be hit with 2.75% loading. |
FilmFour free on Sky?
R K Pelligo wrote:
Adrian A wrote: ~ R K Pelligo wrote: ~ ~ Adrian A wrote: ~ ~ ~ ~ Nigel Barker wrote: ~ ~ ~ On 24 May 2006 10:50:05 GMT, MJ Ray wrote: ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ "loz" ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ who knows. C4 did make similar statements about More 4 ~ that ~ ~ ~ ~ turned out not to be FTA on sky ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ I've asked C4 by email whether it will be properly FTA, and ~ ~ ~ ~ reminded them that FreesatFromSky is about twice the price of ~ ~ ~ ~ other freesat sets. ~ ~ ~ ~ I'll let you know what comes back. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Our local Carrefour has FTA digital satellite receivers for ~ just 37 ~ ~ Euros or just over twenty pounds! ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Just over twenty-five pounds, good value. ~ ~ ~ ~ 26 pounds 50.4297 pence at this precise moment ;-) ~ ~ I don't know where you get your figure from but it's way out. ~ 37 euros = #25.2622 ~ I challenge you, today, to go into a bank, PO or travel agent and buy Euros @ 1.4646 to the pound. If you succeed, please let me know where so I can get some too ;-) We weren't talking about buying euros, we were talking about the stirling equivilent. Currently 1.00 GBP = 1.46510 EUR -- Adrian |
FilmFour free on Sky?
Adrian A wrote:
~ R K Pelligo wrote: ~ ~ Adrian A wrote: ~ ~ ~ ~ R K Pelligo wrote: ~ ~ ~ Adrian A wrote: ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Nigel Barker wrote: ~ ~ ~ ~ On 24 May 2006 10:50:05 GMT, MJ Ray ~ wrote: ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ "loz" ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ who knows. C4 did make similar statements about More 4 ~ ~ that ~ ~ ~ ~ turned out not to be FTA on sky ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ I've asked C4 by email whether it will be properly FTA, ~ and ~ ~ ~ ~ reminded them that FreesatFromSky is about twice the ~ price of ~ ~ ~ ~ other freesat sets. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ I'll let you know what comes back. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Our local Carrefour has FTA digital satellite receivers for ~ ~ just 37 ~ ~ Euros or just over twenty pounds! ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Just over twenty-five pounds, good value. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ 26 pounds 50.4297 pence at this precise moment ;-) ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ I don't know where you get your figure from but it's way out. ~ ~ 37 euros = #25.2622 ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ I challenge you, today, to go into a bank, PO or travel agent and ~ ~ buy Euros @ 1.4646 to the pound. If you succeed, please let me ~ ~ know where so I can get some too ;-) ~ ~ We weren't talking about buying euros, we were talking about the ~ stirling equivilent. ~ Currently 1.00 GBP = 1.46510 EUR Fair comment! But if you can buy at that rate.......... ;-) -- RKP |
FilmFour free on Sky?
On 25 May 2006 12:18:54 GMT, MJ Ray wrote:
Ofcom knew enough to exclude FTA sets from the official statistics. The number of subscription viewers is known, as each and every one must pay to do so. The number of FTV viewers is known, as each and every one must obtain a card to do so. The number of FTA viewers is unknown, and is not so much "excluded" as "hard to count accurately". Why the $DEITY is Ofcom allowed to compile them instead of ONS? Because responsibility for broadcasting lies with Ofcom, whereas ONS have responsibility for economy, population and society only. -- |
FilmFour free on Sky?
Zero Tolerance wrote:
The number of subscription viewers is known, as each and every one must pay to do so. The number of FTV viewers is known, as each and every one must obtain a card to do so. The number of FTA viewers is unknown, and is not so much "excluded" as "hard to count accurately". Clearly many FTV viewers will in fact be using ex-subscription cards. This makes them just as hard to count as the FTA viewers. The figures are meaningless, as is Ofcom. -- Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these. The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/8vef5 UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73 BBC reception questions? ; http://www.astra2d.com/ Fed up with on-screen logos? : http://logofreetv.org/ ---- Only the truth as I see it. No monies return'd. ;-) |
FilmFour free on Sky?
MJ Ray wrote:
Ofcom knew enough to exclude FTA sets from the official statistics. Why the $DEITY is Ofcom allowed to compile them instead of ONS? Ofcom have to have *something* to do. -- Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these. The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/8vef5 UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73 BBC reception questions? ; http://www.astra2d.com/ Fed up with on-screen logos? : http://logofreetv.org/ ---- Only the truth as I see it. No monies return'd. ;-) |
FilmFour free on Sky?
On Thu, 25 May 2006 16:43:28 GMT, "R K Pelligo"
wrote: Adrian A wrote: ~ R K Pelligo wrote: ~ ~ Adrian A wrote: ~ ~ ~ ~ R K Pelligo wrote: ~ ~ ~ Adrian A wrote: ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Nigel Barker wrote: ~ ~ ~ ~ On 24 May 2006 10:50:05 GMT, MJ Ray ~ wrote: ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ "loz" ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ who knows. C4 did make similar statements about More 4 ~ ~ that ~ ~ ~ ~ turned out not to be FTA on sky ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ I've asked C4 by email whether it will be properly FTA, ~ and ~ ~ ~ ~ reminded them that FreesatFromSky is about twice the ~ price of ~ ~ ~ ~ other freesat sets. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ I'll let you know what comes back. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Our local Carrefour has FTA digital satellite receivers for ~ ~ just 37 ~ ~ Euros or just over twenty pounds! ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Just over twenty-five pounds, good value. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ 26 pounds 50.4297 pence at this precise moment ;-) ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ I don't know where you get your figure from but it's way out. ~ ~ 37 euros = #25.2622 ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ I challenge you, today, to go into a bank, PO or travel agent and ~ ~ buy Euros @ 1.4646 to the pound. If you succeed, please let me ~ ~ know where so I can get some too ;-) ~ ~ We weren't talking about buying euros, we were talking about the ~ stirling equivilent. ~ Currently 1.00 GBP = 1.46510 EUR Fair comment! But if you can buy at that rate.......... ;-) At the current Interbank rate as stated by www.oanda.com 37 Euros is 25.26656. I get paid in Euros so was providing a direct comparison to the real cost of a FTA satellite receiver in Rip-off Britain. -- Nigel Barker Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur |
FilmFour free on Sky?
Nigel Barker wrote:
On Thu, 25 May 2006 16:43:28 GMT, "R K Pelligo" wrote: Adrian A wrote: ~ R K Pelligo wrote: ~ ~ Adrian A wrote: ~ ~ ~ ~ R K Pelligo wrote: ~ ~ ~ Adrian A wrote: ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Nigel Barker wrote: ~ ~ ~ ~ On 24 May 2006 10:50:05 GMT, MJ Ray ~ wrote: ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ "loz" ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ who knows. C4 did make similar statements about More 4 ~ ~ that ~ ~ ~ ~ turned out not to be FTA on sky ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ I've asked C4 by email whether it will be properly FTA, ~ and ~ ~ ~ ~ reminded them that FreesatFromSky is about twice the ~ price of ~ ~ ~ ~ other freesat sets. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ I'll let you know what comes back. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Our local Carrefour has FTA digital satellite receivers for ~ ~ just 37 ~ ~ Euros or just over twenty pounds! ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Just over twenty-five pounds, good value. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ 26 pounds 50.4297 pence at this precise moment ;-) ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ I don't know where you get your figure from but it's way out. ~ ~ 37 euros = #25.2622 ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ I challenge you, today, to go into a bank, PO or travel agent and ~ ~ buy Euros @ 1.4646 to the pound. If you succeed, please let me ~ ~ know where so I can get some too ;-) ~ ~ We weren't talking about buying euros, we were talking about the ~ stirling equivilent. ~ Currently 1.00 GBP = 1.46510 EUR Fair comment! But if you can buy at that rate.......... ;-) At the current Interbank rate as stated by www.oanda.com 37 Euros is 25.26656. I get paid in Euros so was providing a direct comparison to the real cost of a FTA satellite receiver in Rip-off Britain. I used http://www.xe.com/ucc/ which seems pretty close, obviously you can never be precise when exchange rates change by the second. -- Adrian |
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