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Tony\(UK\) May 23rd 06 11:50 AM

HD Preview on Sky News
 
Yesterday, Sky News had a feature of the new HD services, throwing away the
comments about 'supply not able to keep up with demand'.
The video of nature and footie shown on my telly was one hell of a lot
better than their normal transmissions, so my question is, as I do not have
a Sky HD box, why was the picture sharper, clearer and the colours more
enhanced? Surely if they can do this on a preview video, they could do it
all the time without us buying new boxes? Even the presenters commented on
how good it looked on their monitors!

Or, as usual, am I missing something here?
Tony(UK)



David May 23rd 06 12:29 PM

HD Preview on Sky News
 

"Tony(UK)" wrote in message
...
Yesterday, Sky News had a feature of the new HD services, throwing away
the comments about 'supply not able to keep up with demand'.



Read in this mornings free newspaper that the box maker for Sky had let Sky
down in delivering boxes for the Football.

--
Regards
David

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Stan The Man May 23rd 06 02:41 PM

HD Preview on Sky News
 
In article , UK\
wrote:

Yesterday, Sky News had a feature of the new HD services, throwing away the
comments about 'supply not able to keep up with demand'.
The video of nature and footie shown on my telly was one hell of a lot
better than their normal transmissions, so my question is, as I do not have
a Sky HD box, why was the picture sharper, clearer and the colours more
enhanced? Surely if they can do this on a preview video, they could do it
all the time without us buying new boxes? Even the presenters commented on
how good it looked on their monitors!

Or, as usual, am I missing something here?
Tony(UK)


I'm sure that HD signals make the SD picture better too. Some recent
programmes that I have watched in SD have been noticeably better than
other SD broadcasts - eg Sky's test cricket transmissions last week and
Sky's Champions League final coverage - and I assume that is because
they were using the HD feed. BBC's Planet Earth (viewed via Sky SD) was
also a superior viewing experience, for the same reason I assume.

Stan

Rod L May 23rd 06 03:03 PM

HD Preview on Sky News
 

"Stan The Man" wrote in message
...
In article , UK\
wrote:

Yesterday, Sky News had a feature of the new HD services, throwing away
the
comments about 'supply not able to keep up with demand'.
The video of nature and footie shown on my telly was one hell of a lot
better than their normal transmissions, so my question is, as I do not
have
a Sky HD box, why was the picture sharper, clearer and the colours more
enhanced? Surely if they can do this on a preview video, they could do it
all the time without us buying new boxes? Even the presenters commented on
how good it looked on their monitors!

Or, as usual, am I missing something here?
Tony(UK)


I'm sure that HD signals make the SD picture better too. Some recent
programmes that I have watched in SD have been noticeably better than
other SD broadcasts - eg Sky's test cricket transmissions last week and
Sky's Champions League final coverage - and I assume that is because
they were using the HD feed. BBC's Planet Earth (viewed via Sky SD) was
also a superior viewing experience, for the same reason I assume.

Stan


Using our Topfield PVR I find recordings made off the BBC are much clearer
than any other channel. This may explain why the file sizes are much larger
than any others too. Almost double on some occasions. I'm no expert but I
assume they (BBC) have gone for quality rather than quantity, won't comment
on the content. I imagine they could increase this further still following
Analogue switch off. I'd like to know just how much better the standard
Freeview picture could get my ever so humble working class CRT TV. I'm
guessing it could be so good that the average man/women in the street would
not give a hoot to High Definition/Sky or over inflated upgrades. I'm also
guessing that sadly we will never know as we are forcibly squeezed further
along the HD rail road. I can't help feeling we have yet to fully explore
the medium we currently have and that this HD frenzy will not just stop at
720p, 1080i , 2010 a space oddity etc. whatever. Long live Freeview and my
Panny CRT. End of moan :-)



John Cartmell May 23rd 06 03:27 PM

HD Preview on Sky News
 
In article ,
Rod L wrote:
Using our Topfield PVR I find recordings made off the BBC are much clearer
than any other channel. This may explain why the file sizes are much larger
than any others too. Almost double on some occasions. I'm no expert but I
assume they (BBC) have gone for quality rather than quantity, won't comment
on the content. I imagine they could increase this further still following
Analogue switch off. I'd like to know just how much better the standard
Freeview picture could get my ever so humble working class CRT TV. I'm
guessing it could be so good that the average man/women in the street would
not give a hoot to High Definition/Sky or over inflated upgrades. I'm also
guessing that sadly we will never know as we are forcibly squeezed further
along the HD rail road. I can't help feeling we have yet to fully explore
the medium we currently have and that this HD frenzy will not just stop at
720p, 1080i , 2010 a space oddity etc. whatever. Long live Freeview and my
Panny CRT. End of moan :-)


I agree with your analysis and simply wonder how long we can freeload on those
paying good money for something that is already available ...

... before the quality of broadcasts are deliberately reduced unless processed
by HD sets. ;-(

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Phil Cook May 23rd 06 04:01 PM

HD Preview on Sky News
 
Rod L wrote:

Using our Topfield PVR I find recordings made off the BBC are much clearer
than any other channel. This may explain why the file sizes are much larger
than any others too. Almost double on some occasions. I'm no expert but I
assume they (BBC) have gone for quality rather than quantity, won't comment
on the content.


I wish they would do this on DAB digital radio :-(
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Whoops! SCOTTIES May 23rd 06 04:52 PM

HD Preview on Sky News
 
the Swiss have opted for a higher defenition version of their standard
satellite transmission, if only bbc, itv, 4 and 5 would do that the majority
of us would never bother with hd.
"Rod L" wrote in message
...

"Stan The Man" wrote in message
...
In article , UK\
wrote:

Yesterday, Sky News had a feature of the new HD services, throwing away
the
comments about 'supply not able to keep up with demand'.
The video of nature and footie shown on my telly was one hell of a lot
better than their normal transmissions, so my question is, as I do not
have
a Sky HD box, why was the picture sharper, clearer and the colours more
enhanced? Surely if they can do this on a preview video, they could do it
all the time without us buying new boxes? Even the presenters commented
on
how good it looked on their monitors!

Or, as usual, am I missing something here?
Tony(UK)


I'm sure that HD signals make the SD picture better too. Some recent
programmes that I have watched in SD have been noticeably better than
other SD broadcasts - eg Sky's test cricket transmissions last week and
Sky's Champions League final coverage - and I assume that is because
they were using the HD feed. BBC's Planet Earth (viewed via Sky SD) was
also a superior viewing experience, for the same reason I assume.

Stan


Using our Topfield PVR I find recordings made off the BBC are much clearer
than any other channel. This may explain why the file sizes are much
larger than any others too. Almost double on some occasions. I'm no expert
but I assume they (BBC) have gone for quality rather than quantity, won't
comment on the content. I imagine they could increase this further still
following Analogue switch off. I'd like to know just how much better the
standard Freeview picture could get my ever so humble working class CRT
TV. I'm guessing it could be so good that the average man/women in the
street would not give a hoot to High Definition/Sky or over inflated
upgrades. I'm also guessing that sadly we will never know as we are
forcibly squeezed further along the HD rail road. I can't help feeling we
have yet to fully explore the medium we currently have and that this HD
frenzy will not just stop at 720p, 1080i , 2010 a space oddity etc.
whatever. Long live Freeview and my Panny CRT. End of moan :-)




News24 May 24th 06 02:00 AM

HD Preview on Sky News
 
Stan The Man wrote in
:

In article , UK\
wrote:

Yesterday, Sky News had a feature of the new HD services, throwing
away the comments about 'supply not able to keep up with demand'.
The video of nature and footie shown on my telly was one hell of a lot
better than their normal transmissions, so my question is, as I do not
have a Sky HD box, why was the picture sharper, clearer and the
colours more enhanced? Surely if they can do this on a preview video,
they could do it all the time without us buying new boxes? Even the
presenters commented on how good it looked on their monitors!

Or, as usual, am I missing something here?
Tony(UK)


I'm sure that HD signals make the SD picture better too. Some recent
programmes that I have watched in SD have been noticeably better than
other SD broadcasts - eg Sky's test cricket transmissions last week
and Sky's Champions League final coverage - and I assume that is
because they were using the HD feed. BBC's Planet Earth (viewed via
Sky SD) was also a superior viewing experience, for the same reason I
assume.

Stan


I agree, programmes which I suspect are recorded in HD seem to have much
more picture depth and clarity than regular broadcasts. Top Gear is
another one which seems very good.

But following from other posts in this thread, current digital picture
quality is not a patch on what it used to be back in the heady days of
1998/1999. I remember being very impressed with BBC and C4 widescreen
broadcasts (DSAT), very clear picture with good contrast etc and low
pixellation.

And it's not a case of rose tinted CRTs either - I remember seeing the
decline happen very quickly when more channels were added to Muxes,
especially when C4 decided to regionalise for the sake of regional
advertising. A move *purely* for economic rather than quality reasons :-(


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