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TOT Rant: Police, Camera, Inaction
Thanks for that.
As it happens, I've just written a follow-up to my councillors, this time including one of a different political complexion just elected, so hopefully the feeling that each is being watched by the other(s) might make cross party involvement more successful. I've also heard of such co-operation more locally, Bracknell, I think - apparently some bikes were confiscated and put through a car-crusher. A guy repairing a window after a neighbouring kid's stray football told me about it. "Dickie mint" wrote in message ... Might be worth checking with your Local Council? Here in Solihull they run a joint venture with the police, and have confiscated and destroyed several hundreds of pounds worth of bikes so far! Several prosecutions too. |
TOT Rant: Police, Camera, Inaction
Wow, and did it! The phone's been going crazy all day!
The newly -elected councillor, eager to gain his spurs I daresay, not to mention outshine the political opposition, just happens to be an ex-copper. He got the letter this morning, came for tramp around the nature reserve within the hour (the tramp wasn't pleased - boom, boom) and got straight onto the council. I've been promised that the eyesores and the litter will soon be a thing of the past. But what he said about the police was particularly interesting ... 1) Technically, it's correct that 999 is only for 'danger to life and limb', but the local alternative is acknowledged to be working so badly that he felt that if a crime is actually in progress and there is a realistic possibility of obtaining an arrest, then use 999 - ie: the advice given by the beat officer was fundamentally sound. 2) The inadequacy of the local number system for things like local hit-and-run style youth crime has led to the trialling in Hampshire of the system on the American number (112, I think). If that's deemed a success, it will be rolled out nation wide. 3) What I was told about CCTV was rubbish, there is no legal or procedural bar to using private CCTV or photographs covering a *public* area, or to identify criminals in a *public* area. The one thing he did mention was that if the system subtitles the date and time, to ensure that it's the *correct* date and time, ie that the system clock is set correctly (I would imagine a good defence lawyer would drive a coach and four through it otherwise). CCTV or similar evidence invading people's privacy (ie: surveillance of them in their own homes) is unlikely to be accepted by courts in normal circumstances. And there was another incident this evening. Buoyed up by the councillor's advice I lay in wait for the youths on their way back and got one particularly nice pic of them on the bike. Boy! Were they stroppy and mad?! The pics are now in the possession of the police. Here's hoping ... "Java Jive" wrote in message . uk... As it happens, I've just written a follow-up to my councillors, this time including one of a different political complexion just elected, so hopefully the feeling that each is being watched by the other(s) might make cross party involvement more successful. |
TOT Rant: Police, Camera, Inaction
Java Jive wrote:
Wow, and did it! The phone's been going crazy all day! Great! I hope you finally get somewhere. snip 2) The inadequacy of the local number system for things like local hit-and-run style youth crime has led to the trialling in Hampshire of the system on the American number (112, I think). If that's deemed a success, it will be rolled out nation wide. You may interested to know, 112 is exactly the same as 999 and is meant to used across europe. The emegency number in America is 911. snip -- Adrian |
TOT Rant: Police, Camera, Inaction
"Colum Mylod" wrote in message
... "101" is what's new to Hampshire, 10p a shot. That's probably what was meant. Doesn't replace 999/112 for JJ's needs. That could have been what he said ... As long as no-one's collar is felt this type of thing will escalate but it will end up with vigilante ism. Which is exactly the position I've been put in. For me, it all started with their destruction of the local children's playground. After an absence of 18-24 months, we've had it back for about a year now, and it's used nearly every day by lots of children. I swore that I wasn't going to let anything like that happen again. Still, it's not all bad news around here. The fact that I feel able to pay attention to the copse and nature reserve is a sign of how much better things are in the street and the playground itself. For a while we had gangs of youths racing motorbikes, throwing stones, etc. I'm never one for counting chickens on a subject like this, but, for the moment at least, things are a lot better than they were. I think the turning point came when three of them climbed over a neighbour's fence and stole the child's Christmas present of a bike out of the garden shed. Fortunately, they were sufficiently worried about my CCTV that they first tried to kick it out with a football, during which they showed themselves to it, and also the bike happened to be the only one of its type in the area. The next day, the police found one of them riding it around an adjoining neighbourhood in the company of the other two, so when they came to view the video they just said: " Ah! That's a ... that's b ... and that's c!". The three are going away for a while. Word seems to have got around since, and the street is now a lot quieter. |
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