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bb2004 April 24th 06 09:37 PM

red/blue/green lines across top of screen...HUH?
 
Recently purchased a refurbed 34" widescreen CRT from phillips.com. Model is
34PW8402.

OK, so all of a sudden we are seeing three very thin, parallel lines running
horizontally across the screen, about an inch or two from the top. Three
lines, one each in red green and blue. So far we have ONLY noticed these
lines when we use the "Zoom 16:9" mode, which stretches/zooms 16:9 content
to fille the screen, eliminating the letterbox effect. THe lines run
horizontally on the screen, though they are not totally straight, and seem
to "flicker" on and off occassionally...maybe for a minute or two at a time,
then it stops for awhile. (Almost looks like three lines of sideways
lightning. Red, green and blue lightning that is.)

At first I though it was the cables and/or inputs on the TV, but this
happens on two different AV inputs when in the "Zoom 16:9" mode (both the
Playstation2 and the DirecTV box). Both are composite cables. (the cheap
ones, this is strictly a fancy SDTV box for now. No HDMI or Component yet.)

Any ideas on WHAT this may be? I'd like to be able to say I can live with it
and just not use the zoom feature, but that is not gonna happen. :)

Thanks in adavance for your helpful replies.



_ April 24th 06 09:50 PM

red/blue/green lines across top of screen...HUH?
 
Sounds like another Sony tube problem..


"bb2004" wrote in message
...
Recently purchased a refurbed 34" widescreen CRT from phillips.com. Model
is 34PW8402.

OK, so all of a sudden we are seeing three very thin, parallel lines
running horizontally across the screen, about an inch or two from the top.
Three lines, one each in red green and blue. So far we have ONLY noticed
these lines when we use the "Zoom 16:9" mode, which stretches/zooms 16:9
content to fille the screen, eliminating the letterbox effect. THe lines
run horizontally on the screen, though they are not totally straight, and
seem to "flicker" on and off occassionally...maybe for a minute or two at
a time, then it stops for awhile. (Almost looks like three lines of
sideways lightning. Red, green and blue lightning that is.)

At first I though it was the cables and/or inputs on the TV, but this
happens on two different AV inputs when in the "Zoom 16:9" mode (both the
Playstation2 and the DirecTV box). Both are composite cables. (the cheap
ones, this is strictly a fancy SDTV box for now. No HDMI or Component
yet.)

Any ideas on WHAT this may be? I'd like to be able to say I can live with
it and just not use the zoom feature, but that is not gonna happen. :)

Thanks in adavance for your helpful replies.




Curmudgeon April 24th 06 10:20 PM

red/blue/green lines across top of screen...HUH?
 
_ wrote:
Sounds like another Sony tube problem..


"bb2004" wrote in message
...
Recently purchased a refurbed 34" widescreen CRT from phillips.com. Model
is 34PW8402.

OK, so all of a sudden we are seeing three very thin, parallel lines
running horizontally across the screen, about an inch or two from the top.
Three lines, one each in red green and blue. So far we have ONLY noticed
these lines when we use the "Zoom 16:9" mode, which stretches/zooms 16:9
content to fille the screen, eliminating the letterbox effect. THe lines
run horizontally on the screen, though they are not totally straight, and
seem to "flicker" on and off occassionally...maybe for a minute or two at
a time, then it stops for awhile. (Almost looks like three lines of
sideways lightning. Red, green and blue lightning that is.)

At first I though it was the cables and/or inputs on the TV, but this
happens on two different AV inputs when in the "Zoom 16:9" mode (both the
Playstation2 and the DirecTV box). Both are composite cables. (the cheap
ones, this is strictly a fancy SDTV box for now. No HDMI or Component
yet.)

Any ideas on WHAT this may be? I'd like to be able to say I can live with
it and just not use the zoom feature, but that is not gonna happen. :)

Thanks in adavance for your helpful replies.



Even if we correctly identify the problem, what are you going to do
about it?! Still requires service that you can't perform.
Call the dealer, or the nearest authorized repair station.

bb2004 April 24th 06 11:05 PM

red/blue/green lines across top of screen...HUH?
 



Even if we correctly identify the problem, what are you going to do about
it?! Still requires service that you can't perform.
Call the dealer, or the nearest authorized repair station.


Why bother replying? I didn't ask what you DON'T know. Thanks though.



Leonard Caillouet April 25th 06 01:07 AM

red/blue/green lines across top of screen...HUH?
 

"_" wrote in message news:[email protected]
Sounds like another Sony tube problem..


The OP was discussing a Philips set, not a Sony. Sony has not had problems
with CRTs in any recent direct view sets that I know of, and we sell a few
and service quite a lot of them.

Leonard



G-squared April 25th 06 06:21 AM

red/blue/green lines across top of screen...HUH?
 

Leonard Caillouet wrote:
"_" wrote in message news:[email protected]
Sounds like another Sony tube problem..


The OP was discussing a Philips set, not a Sony. Sony has not had problems
with CRTs in any recent direct view sets that I know of, and we sell a few
and service quite a lot of them.

Leonard


Could it possibly be not overscanned and what he's seeing is a
calibration for automatic beam? I know commercial Sony units (PVM 14M4
and others) do this when underscanned.

GG


Leonard Caillouet April 25th 06 02:25 PM

red/blue/green lines across top of screen...HUH?
 

"G-squared" wrote in message
oups.com...

Leonard Caillouet wrote:
"_" wrote in message news:[email protected]
Sounds like another Sony tube problem..


The OP was discussing a Philips set, not a Sony. Sony has not had
problems
with CRTs in any recent direct view sets that I know of, and we sell a
few
and service quite a lot of them.

Leonard


Could it possibly be not overscanned and what he's seeing is a
calibration for automatic beam? I know commercial Sony units (PVM 14M4
and others) do this when underscanned.

GG


I'd say that is a good guess, and if it was a Sony, it could also be a
service menu setting that moves the IK sample positions. I am not familiar
with the Philips set, however.

Leonard



_ April 25th 06 04:10 PM

red/blue/green lines across top of screen...HUH?
 
The Phillips set uses the Sony tube.


"Leonard Caillouet" wrote in message
news:[email protected]

"G-squared" wrote in message
oups.com...

Leonard Caillouet wrote:
"_" wrote in message news:[email protected]
Sounds like another Sony tube problem..

The OP was discussing a Philips set, not a Sony. Sony has not had
problems
with CRTs in any recent direct view sets that I know of, and we sell a
few
and service quite a lot of them.

Leonard


Could it possibly be not overscanned and what he's seeing is a
calibration for automatic beam? I know commercial Sony units (PVM 14M4
and others) do this when underscanned.

GG


I'd say that is a good guess, and if it was a Sony, it could also be a
service menu setting that moves the IK sample positions. I am not
familiar with the Philips set, however.

Leonard




Leonard Caillouet April 26th 06 03:47 AM

red/blue/green lines across top of screen...HUH?
 
"_" wrote in message news:[email protected]
The Phillips set uses the Sony tube.


Which set is that? Which tube? Does it use similar AKB circuitry? The IK
sampling, if it is even used has nothing to do with the crt used. I have
also yet to see a Philips set with a Sony crt. Where did you get this info?

Also, most posters in this group prefer bottom posting. Regardless, mixing
it up in a post is really confusing. You might want to edit your posts to
be more clear.

Leonard



bb2004 April 26th 06 03:57 PM

red/blue/green lines across top of screen...HUH?
 

"Leonard Caillouet" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
"_" wrote in message news:[email protected]
The Phillips set uses the Sony tube.


Which set is that? Which tube? Does it use similar AKB circuitry? The
IK sampling, if it is even used has nothing to do with the crt used. I
have also yet to see a Philips set with a Sony crt. Where did you get
this info?

Also, most posters in this group prefer bottom posting. Regardless,
mixing it up in a post is really confusing. You might want to edit your
posts to be more clear.

Leonard


This is great and all, but doesn't help me much.

Someone above referred to overscan? What's that all about? Something I can
adjust if needed?




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