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What's the catch with FREESAT
Apologies if this is the wrong group, but on the face of it, Sky's
freesat looks like a good deal...? Are they serious if you say NO to a phone connection, though? |
What's the catch with FREESAT
Mario wrote:
Apologies if this is the wrong group, but on the face of it, Sky's freesat looks like a good deal...? Are they serious if you say NO to a phone connection, though? You don't need a phone connection with Freesat. |
What's the catch with FREESAT
"Mario" [email protected] wrote in message ... Apologies if this is the wrong group, but on the face of it, Sky's freesat looks like a good deal...? Are they serious if you say NO to a phone connection, though? There is no catch, no phone connection is required. |
What's the catch with FREESAT
Mario wrote:
Apologies if this is the wrong group, but on the face of it, Sky's freesat looks like a good deal...? The channel lineup isn't the same as freeview which may or may not be a good thing , and it costs more than just buying a terrestrial decoder if your existing aerial is suitable. Other than that , no major problems that I've heard of -- Alex Piece by piece the penguins have taken my sanity www.drzoidberg.co.uk www.ebayfaq.co.uk |
What's the catch with FREESAT
"Malcolm H" wrote in message ... "Mario" [email protected] wrote in message ... Apologies if this is the wrong group, but on the face of it, Sky's freesat looks like a good deal...? Are they serious if you say NO to a phone connection, though? There is no catch, no phone connection is required. I'll second that; my father recently opted for Freesat, as Freeview wasn't available - the installer made no attempt to "push" the phone option. - - Martin |
What's the catch with FREESAT
"Dr Zoidberg" wrote in message ... Mario wrote: Apologies if this is the wrong group, but on the face of it, Sky's freesat looks like a good deal...? No; Channel 4 five E4 More4 FilmFour (soon on Freeview) UKTV History etc, etc |
What's the catch with FREESAT
"Mario" [email protected] wrote in message ... Apologies if this is the wrong group, but on the face of it, Sky's freesat looks like a good deal...? Are they serious if you say NO to a phone connection, though? No catch. The only reason its available is that they are running scared of people choosing the freeview platform instead of theirs, so they are finally climbing down of their high horse and trying to get a part of the action. Its almost certain that freesat would never have appeared if freeview had not been so popular. With more people choosing freeview than digital satellite these days, due to the cheap one-off fee of 40 quid (sometimes much much less), Sky are starting to get just a little bit worried that they are missing out on tempting customers to them IMO. Freeview boxes are selling like hot cakes around here these days. My local netto had them in last week and the whole stack of them were sold out in less than 2 hours from the offer starting. It just shows how popular freeview is becoming. I know that Sky gives you more choice, but its only more choice of shopping channels and other similar trash, so if its quality TV your after, buy a freeview box and you`ll get the 'cream of the crop' of free channels without having the hassle of getting a dish stuck on the wall and having to mess around with a FTV card. If your in a freeview signal area, its a nice simple upgrade to just buy a cheap box, stick your aerial into it... and away you go... No wonder its so popular.... |
What's the catch with FREESAT
"James" wrote in message ... "Dr Zoidberg" wrote in message ... Mario wrote: Apologies if this is the wrong group, but on the face of it, Sky's freesat looks like a good deal...? No; Channel 4 five E4 More4 FilmFour (soon on Freeview) UKTV History etc, etc Give over. You get C4 and 5 on Freesat. Bill |
What's the catch with FREESAT
"Mario" [email protected] wrote in message ... Apologies if this is the wrong group, but on the face of it, Sky's freesat looks like a good deal...? Are they serious if you say NO to a phone connection, though? If its like normal sky then when terrestrial BBC or ITV show a football match and you try and watch it on Sky you get a message telling you to switch to terrestrial TV as they are not allowed to show them. |
What's the catch with FREESAT
"Terry" wrote in message ... "Mario" [email protected] wrote in message ... Apologies if this is the wrong group, but on the face of it, Sky's freesat looks like a good deal...? Are they serious if you say NO to a phone connection, though? No catch. The only reason its available is that they are running scared of people choosing the freeview platform instead of theirs, so they are finally climbing down of their high horse and trying to get a part of the action. Its almost certain that freesat would never have appeared if freeview had not been so popular. With more people choosing freeview than digital satellite these days, due to the cheap one-off fee of 40 quid (sometimes much much less), Sky are starting to get just a little bit worried that they are missing out on tempting customers to them IMO. Freeview boxes are selling like hot cakes around here these days. My local netto had them in last week and the whole stack of them were sold out in less than 2 hours from the offer starting. It just shows how popular freeview is becoming. I know that Sky gives you more choice, but its only more choice of shopping channels and other similar trash, so if its quality TV your after, buy a freeview box and you`ll get the 'cream of the crop' of free channels without having the hassle of getting a dish stuck on the wall and having to mess around with a FTV card. If your in a freeview signal area, its a nice simple upgrade to just buy a cheap box, stick your aerial into it... and away you go... No wonder its so popular.... I have seen digital systems with dishes selling for £80 to £100 so it might work out cheaper getting one of those and a local installer. I don't know the technical ins and outs but it does seem viable to do it without involving Sky at all. |
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James wrote:
"Dr Zoidberg" wrote in message ... Mario wrote: Apologies if this is the wrong group, but on the face of it, Sky's freesat looks like a good deal...? No; Channel 4 five E4 More4 FilmFour (soon on Freeview) UKTV History etc, etc Nonsense, you get Channel 4 and five, also Sky 3. -- Adrian |
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I have seen digital systems with dishes selling for £80 to £100 so it might work out cheaper getting one of those and a local installer. I don't know the technical ins and outs but it does seem viable to do it without involving Sky at all. You need a Sky digibox in order to receive the encrypted channels C4, Five and ITV3. You also get the benefit of the Sky EPG which works well. A Sky digibox is the cheapest and best solution, I have bought two on Ebay for £38 each. Panasonic is widely recommended as the best. Any dish with a universal LNB pointed at 28.2 deg.E will do. |
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Gordon Hudson typed almost using sensible wording: "Mario" [email protected] wrote in message ... Apologies if this is the wrong group, but on the face of it, Sky's freesat looks like a good deal...? Are they serious if you say NO to a phone connection, though? If its like normal sky then when terrestrial BBC or ITV show a football match and you try and watch it on Sky you get a message telling you to switch to terrestrial TV as they are not allowed to show them. Never seen that myself in many years. |
What's the catch with FREESAT
"Gordon Hudson" wrote in message ... "Mario" [email protected] wrote in message ... Apologies if this is the wrong group, but on the face of it, Sky's freesat looks like a good deal...? Are they serious if you say NO to a phone connection, though? If its like normal sky then when terrestrial BBC or ITV show a football match and you try and watch it on Sky you get a message telling you to switch to terrestrial TV as they are not allowed to show them. I have been using Sky since UK services began in 1989 and have never seen such a message! BBC and ITV satellite TV is transmitted FTA independently from Sky. You are guilty of misinformation!! |
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Malcolm H wrote:
You need a Sky digibox in order to receive the encrypted channels C4, Five and ITV3. You also get the benefit of the Sky EPG which works well. I take it you meant to say Sky 3, ITV 3 is FTA as are all ITV channels. -- Adrian |
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"Gordon Hudson" wrote in message ... If its like normal sky then when terrestrial BBC or ITV show a football match and you try and watch it on Sky you get a message telling you to switch to terrestrial TV as they are not allowed to show them. what rubbish! |
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On Wed, 19 Apr 2006 08:36:06 GMT, "Malcolm H"
wrote: I have been using Sky since UK services began in 1989 and have never seen such a message! I have. BBC and ITV satellite TV is transmitted FTA independently from Sky. You are guilty of misinformation!! No he's not. -- Alan White Twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow, overlooking Lochs Long and Goil in Argyll, Scotland. Web cam and weather:- http://www.windycroft.gt-britain.co....her/kabcam.htm |
What's the catch with FREESAT
"Malcolm H" wrote in message ... "Gordon Hudson" wrote in message ... "Mario" [email protected] wrote in message ... Apologies if this is the wrong group, but on the face of it, Sky's freesat looks like a good deal...? Are they serious if you say NO to a phone connection, though? If its like normal sky then when terrestrial BBC or ITV show a football match and you try and watch it on Sky you get a message telling you to switch to terrestrial TV as they are not allowed to show them. I have been using Sky since UK services began in 1989 and have never seen such a message! BBC and ITV satellite TV is transmitted FTA independently from Sky. You are guilty of misinformation!! Happens here ALL the time. I am in Scotland, so maybe thats the difference. |
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On Wed, 19 Apr 2006 09:59:07 +0100, "Gordon Hudson"
wrote: I am in Scotland, so maybe thats the difference. It is. -- Alan White Twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow, overlooking Lochs Long and Goil in Argyll, Scotland. Web cam and weather:- http://www.windycroft.gt-britain.co....her/kabcam.htm |
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"Adrian A" wrote in message ... Malcolm H wrote: You need a Sky digibox in order to receive the encrypted channels C4, Five and ITV3. You also get the benefit of the Sky EPG which works well. I take it you meant to say Sky 3, ITV 3 is FTA as are all ITV channels. -- Adrian I stand corrected, Sky 3 it is! |
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On Wed, 19 Apr 2006 09:47:21 +0100, "Mike D"
wrote: what rubbish! No. -- Alan White Twenty-eight miles NW of Glasgow, overlooking Lochs Long and Goil in Argyll, Scotland. Web cam and weather:- http://www.windycroft.gt-britain.co....her/kabcam.htm |
What's the catch with FREESAT
Mike D wrote: "Gordon Hudson" wrote in message ... If its like normal sky then when terrestrial BBC or ITV show a football match and you try and watch it on Sky you get a message telling you to switch to terrestrial TV as they are not allowed to show them. what rubbish! Happens on BBC 1/2 Scotland D-Sat from time, tied up with sports rights, and geographical coverage. |
What's the catch with FREESAT
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Alan White wrote: On Wed, 19 Apr 2006 09:59:07 +0100, "Gordon Hudson" wrote: I am in Scotland, so maybe thats the difference. It is. To expand: the Scottish FA does not allow the showing of any football match on tv if there is an SFA match being played in Scotland. Been like it for yeasr. -- From KT24 - in drought-ridden Surrey Using a RISC OS5 computer |
What's the catch with FREESAT
Bill Wright wrote:
|| "James" wrote in message || ... ||| ||| "Dr Zoidberg" wrote in message ||| ... |||| Mario wrote: ||||| Apologies if this is the wrong group, but on the face of it, Sky's ||||| freesat looks like a good deal...? ||| ||| No; ||| Channel 4 ||| five ||| E4 ||| More4 ||| FilmFour (soon on Freeview) ||| UKTV History ||| ||| etc, etc ||| || Give over. You get C4 and 5 on Freesat. || But people are still locked into a £150 Sky receiver and card, a much more ideal situation would be to be able to visit ones local retailer and purchase an £80 'Murdoch free' sat system, which would also offer the ability to be able to receive dozens of extra European satellite stations. Just think of the advantages Bill, people like yourself could (in most circumstances) then offer a guaranteed hassle-free alternative in areas of poor or non-existent terrestrial reception, for probably around the same cost as spending half a day buggering around with an aerial and still winding up with iffy reception. || Bill |
What's the catch with FREESAT
Mark Carver wrote: Mike D wrote: "Gordon Hudson" wrote in message ... If its like normal sky then when terrestrial BBC or ITV show a football match and you try and watch it on Sky you get a message telling you to switch to terrestrial TV as they are not allowed to show them. what rubbish! Happens on BBC 1/2 Scotland D-Sat from time, tied up with sports rights, and geographical coverage. Presumably you can just switch to a Sassenach (sp?) BBC region to get round the "problem"? |
What's the catch with FREESAT
wrote: Mark Carver wrote: Mike D wrote: "Gordon Hudson" wrote in message ... If its like normal sky then when terrestrial BBC or ITV show a football match and you try and watch it on Sky you get a message telling you to switch to terrestrial TV as they are not allowed to show them. what rubbish! Happens on BBC 1/2 Scotland D-Sat from time, tied up with sports rights, and geographical coverage. Presumably you can just switch to a Sassenach (sp?) BBC region to get round the "problem"? No, it relates normally to Scottish football matches shown only on BBC Scotland. Because BBC Scotland D-Sat is receivable over the whole UK (actually western Europe) then some matches cannot be shown on D-Sat. BBC Scotland DTT and analogue are only permitted to show them. |
What's the catch with FREESAT
"Ivan" wrote in message ... Bill Wright wrote: || "James" wrote in message || ... ||| ||| "Dr Zoidberg" wrote in message ||| ... |||| Mario wrote: ||||| Apologies if this is the wrong group, but on the face of it, Sky's ||||| freesat looks like a good deal...? ||| ||| No; ||| Channel 4 ||| five ||| E4 ||| More4 ||| FilmFour (soon on Freeview) ||| UKTV History ||| ||| etc, etc ||| || Give over. You get C4 and 5 on Freesat. || But people are still locked into a £150 Sky receiver and card, a much more ideal situation would be to be able to visit ones local retailer and purchase an £80 'Murdoch free' sat system, which would also offer the ability to be able to receive dozens of extra European satellite stations. Just think of the advantages Bill, people like yourself could (in most circumstances) then offer a guaranteed hassle-free alternative in areas of poor or non-existent terrestrial reception, for probably around the same cost as spending half a day buggering around with an aerial and still winding up with iffy reception. As I posted elsewhere in this thread, a Sky digibox for about £40 from ebay is probably the best answer. The FTV card for C4, Five and Sky3 is no problem, simply a one-off payment of £20. For a list of all FTA channels available with the Sky box see http://www.sdsdigital.co.uk/Freesky-...-List-p-2.html . Don't underestimate the importance of having all channels listed in the Sky EPG and full access to the interactive services etc. |
What's the catch with FREESAT
"Bill Wright" wrote:
Give over. You get C4 and 5 on Freesat. No C4 and Five on "Freesat" as originally defined by the BBC. They *are* on "Sky Freesat". And yes, that is confusing, but that's the whole point. Sky deliberately confused the issue to spoil the BBC's "Freesat" concept. -- Dave Farrance |
What's the catch with FREESAT
Malcolm H wrote:
|| || As I posted elsewhere in this thread, a Sky digibox for about £40 || from ebay is probably the best answer. The FTV card for C4, Five || and Sky3 is no problem, simply a one-off payment of £20. For a list || of all FTA channels available with the Sky box see || http://www.sdsdigital.co.uk/Freesky-...-List-p-2.html . Don't || underestimate the importance of having all channels listed in the || Sky EPG and full access to the interactive services etc. The problem is how many ordinary members of the public would know absolutely anything about searching for second hand Sky receivers and ordering viewing cards?... the very mention of Sky and viewing cards is an immediate turn-off to many people. Several years ago I used to fit the original £100 no subscription Sky offer for a local ASA before they stopped it, but even that involved lots of paperwork, waiting for viewing cards to arrive in the post and then getting them activated. I was under the impression that the original BBC idea of Freesat was to get all of the original Freeview broadcasters involved in creating a similar FTA type package on digital satellite, thus allowing people to use (and even install themselves) cheap readily available satellite systems as in the rest of Europe, i.e. the German FTA offering by their national broadcasters. |
What's the catch with FREESAT
"Ivan" wrote in message ... Malcolm H wrote: || || As I posted elsewhere in this thread, a Sky digibox for about £40 || from ebay is probably the best answer. The FTV card for C4, Five || and Sky3 is no problem, simply a one-off payment of £20. For a list || of all FTA channels available with the Sky box see || http://www.sdsdigital.co.uk/Freesky-...-List-p-2.html . Don't || underestimate the importance of having all channels listed in the || Sky EPG and full access to the interactive services etc. The problem is how many ordinary members of the public would know absolutely anything about searching for second hand Sky receivers and ordering viewing cards?... the very mention of Sky and viewing cards is an immediate turn-off to many people. Several years ago I used to fit the original £100 no subscription Sky offer for a local ASA before they stopped it, but even that involved lots of paperwork, waiting for viewing cards to arrive in the post and then getting them activated. I was under the impression that the original BBC idea of Freesat was to get all of the original Freeview broadcasters involved in creating a similar FTA type package on digital satellite, thus allowing people to use (and even install themselves) cheap readily available satellite systems as in the rest of Europe, i.e. the German FTA offering by their national broadcasters. If you are a DIY enthusiast: 1. Go to http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/sear...ub mit=Search You will find a large selection of Panasonic DU-DSB30 digiboxes. These are excellent and widely recommended digiboxes. 2. Buy one! 3. Go to: http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/sear...rclo=&saprchi= 4. Buy a dish and LNB 5. Go to http://www.satcure.co.uk/tech/freeview.htm where you will find full details on how to install it and make it work. 6. Total cost £100 and hours of fun! If you are not a DIY enthusiast 1. Go to http://www.freesatfromsky.co.uk/ 2. For £150 all equipment will be supplied and installed. No ongoing costs or commitment Bueno! Job done! |
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Malcolm H wrote:
|| "Ivan" wrote in message || ... ||| Malcolm H wrote: ||||| ||||| As I posted elsewhere in this thread, a Sky digibox for about £40 ||||| from ebay is probably the best answer. The FTV card for C4, Five ||||| and Sky3 is no problem, simply a one-off payment of £20. For a ||||| list of all FTA channels available with the Sky box see ||||| http://www.sdsdigital.co.uk/Freesky-...-List-p-2.html . ||||| Don't underestimate the importance of having all channels listed ||||| in the Sky EPG and full access to the interactive services etc. ||| ||| ||| The problem is how many ordinary members of the public would know ||| absolutely ||| anything about searching for second hand Sky receivers and ordering ||| viewing ||| cards?... the very mention of Sky and viewing cards is an immediate ||| turn-off ||| to many people. ||| ||| Several years ago I used to fit the original £100 no subscription ||| Sky offer ||| for a local ASA before they stopped it, but even that involved lots ||| of paperwork, waiting for viewing cards to arrive in the post and ||| then getting ||| them activated. ||| ||| I was under the impression that the original BBC idea of Freesat ||| was to get ||| all of the original Freeview broadcasters involved in creating a ||| similar FTA ||| type package on digital satellite, thus allowing people to use (and ||| even install themselves) cheap readily available satellite systems ||| as in the rest ||| of Europe, i.e. the German FTA offering by their national ||| broadcasters. ||| || || If you are a DIY enthusiast: || 1. Go to || http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/sear...ub mit=Search || You will find a large selection of Panasonic DU-DSB30 digiboxes. || These are excellent and widely recommended digiboxes. || 2. Buy one! || 3. Go to: || http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/sear...rclo=&saprchi= || 4. Buy a dish and LNB || 5. Go to http://www.satcure.co.uk/tech/freeview.htm where you will || find full details on how to install it and make it work. || 6. Total cost £100 and hours of fun! || || If you are not a DIY enthusiast || 1. Go to http://www.freesatfromsky.co.uk/ || 2. For £150 all equipment will be supplied and installed. No ongoing || costs or commitment || As already stated, a crippled Sky £150 receiver with a viewing card to many many people = anathema! If Channel 4 and 5 weren't so welded to Mr Murdoch's backside, as in mainland Europe the sales of budget-priced satellite systems for a Freesat package, put together along the same lines as Freeview, would rocket. || Bueno! Job done! |
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"Mark Carver" wrote in message ups.com... wrote: Mark Carver wrote: Mike D wrote: "Gordon Hudson" wrote in message ... If its like normal sky then when terrestrial BBC or ITV show a football match and you try and watch it on Sky you get a message telling you to switch to terrestrial TV as they are not allowed to show them. what rubbish! Happens on BBC 1/2 Scotland D-Sat from time, tied up with sports rights, and geographical coverage. Presumably you can just switch to a Sassenach (sp?) BBC region to get round the "problem"? No, it relates normally to Scottish football matches shown only on BBC Scotland. Because BBC Scotland D-Sat is receivable over the whole UK (actually western Europe) then some matches cannot be shown on D-Sat. BBC Scotland DTT and analogue are only permitted to show them. I've often wondered how installers can offer Freesat for those people who don't have a hope of getting Freeview and still make it worth their while without going way over the £150 standard installation charge. I guess many are using second hand boxes and not supplying a card? Can someone confirm the channels you can't receive without the Freesat card. Thanks |
What's the catch with FREESAT
If Channel 4 and 5 weren't so welded to Mr Murdoch's backside, as in
mainland Europe the sales of budget-priced satellite systems for a Freesat package, put together along the same lines as Freeview, would rocket. For the price of a £20 viewing card there is nothing special about C4 and Five which affects the viewer. For all practical purposes the Freesat package works exactly like Freeview - but offers much more! |
What's the catch with FREESAT
Can someone confirm the channels you can't receive without the Freesat card. All except these: http://www.sdsdigital.co.uk/Freesky-...-List-p-2.html |
What's the catch with FREESAT
-GB-Carpy wrote:
I've often wondered how installers can offer Freesat for those people who don't have a hope of getting Freeview and still make it worth their while without going way over the £150 standard installation charge. I guess many are using second hand boxes and not supplying a card? Can someone confirm the channels you can't receive without the Freesat card. Thanks Channel 4, five and Sky 3 -- Adrian |
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In message , Malcolm H
writes If Channel 4 and 5 weren't so welded to Mr Murdoch's backside, as in mainland Europe the sales of budget-priced satellite systems for a Freesat package, put together along the same lines as Freeview, would rocket. For the price of a £20 viewing card there is nothing special about C4 and Five which affects the viewer. For all practical purposes the Freesat package works exactly like Freeview - but offers much more! From the website: "FTV (Free To View) means that although the channel is classed as Free, you will require a Freesat card to actually View the channel. Available through Sky directly on 0870 606 1111 for a one-off payment of £20 for 3 years usage. Please note the card can only work in a Sky Digibox." I am having great trouble in understanding this Murdoch definition of 'free'? Bob |
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"Bob Adams" wrote in message ... In message , Malcolm H writes If Channel 4 and 5 weren't so welded to Mr Murdoch's backside, as in mainland Europe the sales of budget-priced satellite systems for a Freesat package, put together along the same lines as Freeview, would rocket. For the price of a £20 viewing card there is nothing special about C4 and Five which affects the viewer. For all practical purposes the Freesat package works exactly like Freeview - but offers much more! From the website: "FTV (Free To View) means that although the channel is classed as Free, you will require a Freesat card to actually View the channel. Available through Sky directly on 0870 606 1111 for a one-off payment of £20 for 3 years usage. Please note the card can only work in a Sky Digibox." I am having great trouble in understanding this Murdoch definition of 'free'? Bob Er, not quite. I have Freesat and AFAIK there is no time limit - it is a once off payment. Curiously when I got mine it was also a freephone number - something like 0800 500 003. FTA means the channel is available free to anyone anywhe FTV means there is no cost to watch but because the broadcaster (note - NOT Murdoch) choose to encrypt their programs then you have to pay for the card to make give your box the necessary information to be able to decode it. This is largely because UK Sky cards are only supplied to UK addresses so theoretically channels 4 and 5 cannot be viewed outside the UK..... -- Woody harrogate3 at ntlworld dot com |
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harrogate3 wrote:
|| "Bob Adams" wrote in message || ... ||| In message , Malcolm H ||| writes ||||| If Channel 4 and 5 weren't so welded to Mr Murdoch's backside, as ||||| in mainland Europe the sales of budget-priced satellite systems ||||| for a Freesat package, put together along the same lines as ||||| Freeview, would rocket. |||| |||| For the price of a £20 viewing card there is nothing special about |||| C4 and Five which affects the viewer. For all practical purposes |||| the Freesat package works exactly like Freeview - but offers much |||| more! |||| |||| ||| From the website: ||| ||| "FTV (Free To View) means that although the channel is classed as ||| Free, you will require a Freesat card to actually View the channel. ||| Available through Sky directly on 0870 606 1111 for a one-off ||| payment of £20 for 3 years usage. Please note the card can only ||| work in a Sky Digibox." ||| ||| I am having great trouble in understanding this Murdoch definition ||| of 'free'? ||| ||| Bob || || Er, not quite. I have Freesat and AFAIK there is no time limit - it || is a once off payment. || || Curiously when I got mine it was also a freephone number - something || like 0800 500 003. || || FTA means the channel is available free to anyone anywhe FTV means || there is no cost to watch but because the broadcaster (note - NOT || Murdoch) choose to encrypt their programs then you have to pay for || the card to make give your box the necessary information to be able || to decode it. This is largely because UK Sky cards are only supplied || to UK addresses so theoretically channels 4 and 5 cannot be viewed || outside the UK..... || || Yet the seven BBC channels and ITV, like all of the German national channels have absolutely no problems with broadcasting FTA via digital satellite ... so what's so special about Channel 4 and 5 that makes them feel that they must remain encrypted? || -- || Woody || || harrogate3 at ntlworld dot com |
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"Ivan" wrote in message ... harrogate3 wrote: || "Bob Adams" wrote in message || ... ||| In message , Malcolm H ||| writes ||||| If Channel 4 and 5 weren't so welded to Mr Murdoch's backside, as ||||| in mainland Europe the sales of budget-priced satellite systems ||||| for a Freesat package, put together along the same lines as ||||| Freeview, would rocket. |||| |||| For the price of a £20 viewing card there is nothing special about |||| C4 and Five which affects the viewer. For all practical purposes |||| the Freesat package works exactly like Freeview - but offers much |||| more! |||| |||| ||| From the website: ||| ||| "FTV (Free To View) means that although the channel is classed as ||| Free, you will require a Freesat card to actually View the channel. ||| Available through Sky directly on 0870 606 1111 for a one-off ||| payment of £20 for 3 years usage. Please note the card can only ||| work in a Sky Digibox." ||| ||| I am having great trouble in understanding this Murdoch definition ||| of 'free'? ||| ||| Bob || || Er, not quite. I have Freesat and AFAIK there is no time limit - it || is a once off payment. || || Curiously when I got mine it was also a freephone number - something || like 0800 500 003. || || FTA means the channel is available free to anyone anywhe FTV means || there is no cost to watch but because the broadcaster (note - NOT || Murdoch) choose to encrypt their programs then you have to pay for || the card to make give your box the necessary information to be able || to decode it. This is largely because UK Sky cards are only supplied || to UK addresses so theoretically channels 4 and 5 cannot be viewed || outside the UK..... || || Yet the seven BBC channels and ITV, like all of the German national channels have absolutely no problems with broadcasting FTA via digital satellite ... so what's so special about Channel 4 and 5 that makes them feel that they must remain encrypted? Often to do with contract terms assocaited with licencing of the considerable number of US made shows that these two channels show, the likes of The Simpsons and the various versions of CSI and Law and Order are examples that spring to mind. As many people in Europe can speak English they could watch UK FTA versions which would then detract from the potential advertising revenue when their home channels try to show them. For the same reason, cable TV in Belgium for instance shows BBC1 and BBC2 24/7, but no ITV channels at all, although I have noticed that they sometimes take ITV feeds of sports events with their own commentators (usually in the studio.) -- Woody harrogate3 at ntlworld dot com |
What's the catch with FREESAT
Mario [email protected]
Apologies if this is the wrong group, but on the face of it, Sky's freesat looks like a good deal...? [...] It's not a good deal because: 1. the dish is custom-made and awkward to upgrade; 2. the receiver is custom-made and awkward to upgrade; 3. many of their installers seem to bodge it (dish not quite aligned, insecure mounting, or just unnecessarily inaccessible most often); 4. you're buying from Murdoch, who dominates UK satellite broadcasts; 5. and standard sets are cheaper - can you drill 5 holes and connect two wires? If so, don't buy Sky, unless you really can't wait for C4 and five to become proper broadcasters and go free-to-air like BBC and itv. -- MJR/slef Sat FAQ: http://mjr.towers.org.uk/comp/astefaq.txt |
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