What's the catch with FREESAT
 

On Wed, 19 Apr 2006 09:47:21 +0100, "Mike D"
wrote:

what rubbish!

No.

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What's the catch with FREESAT
 

Mike D wrote:
"Gordon Hudson" wrote in message
...
If its like normal sky then when terrestrial BBC or ITV show a football
match and you try and watch it on Sky you get a message telling you to
switch to terrestrial TV as they are not allowed to show them.

what rubbish!

Happens on BBC 1/2 Scotland D-Sat from time, tied up with sports
rights, and geographical coverage.

What's the catch with FREESAT
 

In article ,
Alan White wrote:
On Wed, 19 Apr 2006 09:59:07 +0100, "Gordon Hudson"
wrote:

I am in Scotland, so maybe thats the difference.

It is.

To expand: the Scottish FA does not allow the showing of any football match
on tv if there is an SFA match being played in Scotland. Been like it for
yeasr.

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What's the catch with FREESAT
 

Bill Wright wrote:
|| "James" wrote in message
|| ...
|||
||| "Dr Zoidberg" wrote in message
||| ...
|||| Mario wrote:
||||| Apologies if this is the wrong group, but on the face of it, Sky's
||||| freesat looks like a good deal...?
|||
||| No;
||| Channel 4
||| five
||| E4
||| More4
||| FilmFour (soon on Freeview)
||| UKTV History
|||
||| etc, etc
|||
|| Give over. You get C4 and 5 on Freesat.
||

But people are still locked into a £150 Sky receiver and card, a much more
ideal situation would be to be able to visit ones local retailer and
purchase an £80 'Murdoch free' sat system, which would also offer the
ability
to be able to receive dozens of extra European satellite stations.

Just think of the advantages Bill, people like yourself could (in most
circumstances) then offer a guaranteed hassle-free alternative in areas of
poor or non-existent terrestrial reception, for probably around the same
cost as spending half a day buggering around with an aerial and still
winding up with iffy reception.





|| Bill

What's the catch with FREESAT
 

Mark Carver wrote:
Mike D wrote:
"Gordon Hudson" wrote in message
...
If its like normal sky then when terrestrial BBC or ITV show a football
match and you try and watch it on Sky you get a message telling you to
switch to terrestrial TV as they are not allowed to show them.

what rubbish!

Happens on BBC 1/2 Scotland D-Sat from time, tied up with sports
rights, and geographical coverage.

Presumably you can just switch to a Sassenach (sp?) BBC region to get
round the "problem"?

What's the catch with FREESAT
 

wrote:
Mark Carver wrote:
Mike D wrote:
"Gordon Hudson" wrote in message
...
If its like normal sky then when terrestrial BBC or ITV show a football
match and you try and watch it on Sky you get a message telling you to
switch to terrestrial TV as they are not allowed to show them.

what rubbish!

Happens on BBC 1/2 Scotland D-Sat from time, tied up with sports
rights, and geographical coverage.

Presumably you can just switch to a Sassenach (sp?) BBC region to get
round the "problem"?

No, it relates normally to Scottish football matches shown only on BBC
Scotland.
Because BBC Scotland D-Sat is receivable over the whole UK (actually
western Europe) then some matches cannot be shown on D-Sat. BBC
Scotland DTT and analogue are only permitted to show them.

What's the catch with FREESAT
 

"Ivan" wrote in message
...
Bill Wright wrote:
|| "James" wrote in message
|| ...
|||
||| "Dr Zoidberg" wrote in message
||| ...
|||| Mario wrote:
||||| Apologies if this is the wrong group, but on the face of it, Sky's
||||| freesat looks like a good deal...?
|||
||| No;
||| Channel 4
||| five
||| E4
||| More4
||| FilmFour (soon on Freeview)
||| UKTV History
|||
||| etc, etc
|||
|| Give over. You get C4 and 5 on Freesat.
||

But people are still locked into a £150 Sky receiver and card, a much more
ideal situation would be to be able to visit ones local retailer and
purchase an £80 'Murdoch free' sat system, which would also offer the
ability
to be able to receive dozens of extra European satellite stations.

Just think of the advantages Bill, people like yourself could (in most
circumstances) then offer a guaranteed hassle-free alternative in areas of
poor or non-existent terrestrial reception, for probably around the same
cost as spending half a day buggering around with an aerial and still
winding up with iffy reception.

As I posted elsewhere in this thread, a Sky digibox for about £40 from ebay
is probably the best answer. The FTV card for C4, Five and Sky3 is no
problem, simply a one-off payment of £20. For a list of all FTA channels
available with the Sky box see
http://www.sdsdigital.co.uk/Freesky-...-List-p-2.html . Don't
underestimate the importance of having all channels listed in the Sky EPG
and full access to the interactive services etc.

What's the catch with FREESAT
 

"Bill Wright" wrote:

Give over. You get C4 and 5 on Freesat.

No C4 and Five on "Freesat" as originally defined by the BBC. They
*are* on "Sky Freesat".

And yes, that is confusing, but that's the whole point. Sky
deliberately confused the issue to spoil the BBC's "Freesat" concept.

--
Dave Farrance

What's the catch with FREESAT
 

Malcolm H wrote:
||
|| As I posted elsewhere in this thread, a Sky digibox for about £40
|| from ebay is probably the best answer. The FTV card for C4, Five
|| and Sky3 is no problem, simply a one-off payment of £20. For a list
|| of all FTA channels available with the Sky box see
|| http://www.sdsdigital.co.uk/Freesky-...-List-p-2.html . Don't
|| underestimate the importance of having all channels listed in the
|| Sky EPG and full access to the interactive services etc.


The problem is how many ordinary members of the public would know absolutely
anything about searching for second hand Sky receivers and ordering viewing
cards?... the very mention of Sky and viewing cards is an immediate turn-off
to many people.

Several years ago I used to fit the original £100 no subscription Sky offer
for a local ASA before they stopped it, but even that involved lots of
paperwork, waiting for viewing cards to arrive in the post and then getting
them activated.

I was under the impression that the original BBC idea of Freesat was to get
all of the original Freeview broadcasters involved in creating a similar FTA
type package on digital satellite, thus allowing people to use (and even
install themselves) cheap readily available satellite systems as in the rest
of Europe, i.e. the German FTA offering by their national broadcasters.

What's the catch with FREESAT
 

"Ivan" wrote in message
...
Malcolm H wrote:
||
|| As I posted elsewhere in this thread, a Sky digibox for about £40
|| from ebay is probably the best answer. The FTV card for C4, Five
|| and Sky3 is no problem, simply a one-off payment of £20. For a list
|| of all FTA channels available with the Sky box see
|| http://www.sdsdigital.co.uk/Freesky-...-List-p-2.html . Don't
|| underestimate the importance of having all channels listed in the
|| Sky EPG and full access to the interactive services etc.


The problem is how many ordinary members of the public would know
absolutely
anything about searching for second hand Sky receivers and ordering
viewing
cards?... the very mention of Sky and viewing cards is an immediate
turn-off
to many people.

Several years ago I used to fit the original £100 no subscription Sky
offer
for a local ASA before they stopped it, but even that involved lots of
paperwork, waiting for viewing cards to arrive in the post and then
getting
them activated.

I was under the impression that the original BBC idea of Freesat was to
get
all of the original Freeview broadcasters involved in creating a similar
FTA
type package on digital satellite, thus allowing people to use (and even
install themselves) cheap readily available satellite systems as in the
rest
of Europe, i.e. the German FTA offering by their national broadcasters.


If you are a DIY enthusiast:
1. Go to
http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/sear...ub mit=Search
You will find a large selection of Panasonic DU-DSB30 digiboxes. These are
excellent and widely recommended digiboxes.
2. Buy one!
3. Go to:
http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/sear...rclo=&saprchi=
4. Buy a dish and LNB
5. Go to http://www.satcure.co.uk/tech/freeview.htm where you will find full
details on how to install it and make it work.
6. Total cost £100 and hours of fun!

If you are not a DIY enthusiast
1. Go to http://www.freesatfromsky.co.uk/
2. For £150 all equipment will be supplied and installed. No ongoing costs
or commitment

Bueno! Job done!