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David Quinton March 27th 06 08:38 AM

MHEG application?
 
It seems amazing to me that one still can't get the same information
about programmes from MHEG that one can get from the Radio Times.

I think I'd actually be willing to pay £5 pm subscription if I could
press a couple of buttons on my remote and get:
Cast list
Writer / Director etc.
Accurate info as to whether a programme is a repat and when it was
previously shown ((and when it will be repeated).

Am I alone in this?
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Mike GW8IJT March 27th 06 09:31 AM

MHEG application?
 
"David Quinton" wrote in
message ...
It seems amazing to me that one still can't get the same information
about programmes from MHEG that one can get from the Radio Times.

I think I'd actually be willing to pay £5 pm subscription if I could
press a couple of buttons on my remote and get:
Cast list
Writer / Director etc.
Accurate info as to whether a programme is a repat and when it was
previously shown ((and when it will be repeated).

Am I alone in this?
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No chance!
The BBC get lots of money from flogging the Radio Times & they are not
about to give you that info for free.
Regards Mike.


Mike GW8IJT March 27th 06 09:32 AM

MHEG application?
 
"Mike GW8IJT" wrote in message
...
"David Quinton" wrote

in
message ...
It seems amazing to me that one still can't get the same information
about programmes from MHEG that one can get from the Radio Times.

I think I'd actually be willing to pay £5 pm subscription if I could
press a couple of buttons on my remote and get:
Cast list
Writer / Director etc.
Accurate info as to whether a programme is a repat and when it was
previously shown ((and when it will be repeated).

Am I alone in this?
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No chance!
The BBC get lots of money from flogging the Radio Times & they are not
about to give you that info for free.
Regards Mike.

Also there is no provision for making mpeg text a subscription service.
regards Mike.


David Quinton March 27th 06 12:47 PM

MHEG application?
 
On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 08:32:35 +0100, "Mike GW8IJT"
wrote:

Also there is no provision for making mpeg text a subscription service.
regards Mike.


Aha - that's my idea shelved then!
If there were, then I think they'd get a few takers.
£4 pm would probably mean that RT wouldn't be out of pocket.

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John Cartmell March 27th 06 01:02 PM

MHEG application?
 
In article ,
David Quinton wrote:
On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 08:32:35 +0100, "Mike GW8IJT"
wrote:


Also there is no provision for making mpeg text a subscription service.


Aha - that's my idea shelved then!
If there were, then I think they'd get a few takers.
£4 pm would probably mean that RT wouldn't be out of pocket.


Of course there is nothing stopping you from making one or two 'slight'
alterations and including a browser link to the Movie Database. ;-)

Whilst getting a full cast list *would* be of interest I'm more annoyed by
those non-film programmes that aren't properly identified anywhere. Linking an
STB to full computer facilities is relatively trivial; getting information out
of broadcasters who seemingly don't care about (seemingly don't know about)
the programmes they air is a different matter.

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Richard Tobin March 27th 06 01:59 PM

MHEG application?
 
In article ,
David Quinton wrote:

I think I'd actually be willing to pay £5 pm subscription if I could
press a couple of buttons on my remote and get:
Cast list
Writer / Director etc.
Accurate info as to whether a programme is a repat and when it was
previously shown ((and when it will be repeated).

Am I alone in this?


Yes, I think so.

It would be nice to have such information, but I can't see many people
paying for it, let alone an extra 50% compared to their TV licence.

-- Richard

Rod L March 27th 06 02:01 PM

MHEG application?
 

"David Quinton" wrote in
message ...
It seems amazing to me that one still can't get the same information
about programmes from MHEG that one can get from the Radio Times.

I think I'd actually be willing to pay £5 pm subscription if I could
press a couple of buttons on my remote and get:
Cast list
Writer / Director etc.
Accurate info as to whether a programme is a repat and when it was
previously shown ((and when it will be repeated).

Am I alone in this?


I believe there is more information e.g. Genre that is sent but few STB's
have the software to receive it. I know there are TAPS available for the
Topfield PVR that will reveal the extra detail. I don't use the taps in
question but a visit to www.toppy.org.uk will explain more.



DavidM March 27th 06 02:22 PM

MHEG application?
 
John Cartmell wrote:

Linking an STB to full computer facilities is relatively trivial


How would you do something like that then. DigiGuide carry detailed TV
listings and information on each program. It costs £8.99 a year.
The information is available through their own application, or via a
login website.

John Cartmell March 27th 06 02:52 PM

MHEG application?
 
In article ,
DavidM wrote:
John Cartmell wrote:


Linking an STB to full computer facilities is relatively trivial


How would you do something like that then.


You missed the intro that included a smiley! 'Relatively trivial' does not
mean that I can do it - but it will obviously mean adding back the bits that
have been removed on its design journey from a full computer. In some cases
that may be little more than the OS.

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Dave Pickles March 27th 06 06:00 PM

MHEG application?
 
Rod L wrote:

I believe there is more information e.g. Genre that is sent but few STB's
have the software to receive it. I know there are TAPS available for the
Topfield PVR that will reveal the extra detail. I don't use the taps in
question but a visit to www.toppy.org.uk will explain more.


Yes the "Genre" is part of the specification and is transmitted on FreeView,
but only the top-level codes are used, eg "Drama/Film", "Sports". However
the person who allocates the codes has obviously never seen or even heard
of the programmes.
--
Dave

[email protected] March 28th 06 12:32 PM

MHEG application?
 
Well I'd like to see series and episode numbers at least, particularly
when two series of Smallville are running at once.


Simon Slavin March 30th 06 01:03 AM

MHEG application?
 
On 27/03/2006, David Quinton wrote in message
:

It seems amazing to me that one still can't get the same information
about programmes from MHEG that one can get from the Radio Times.

I think I'd actually be willing to pay £5 pm subscription if I could
press a couple of buttons on my remote and get:
Cast list
Writer / Director etc.
Accurate info as to whether a programme is a repat and when it was
previously shown ((and when it will be repeated).


I'm with you on the last of those, since that actually is information
about that particular broadcast, and it's information that the broadcaster
might be expected to know. And it would only need a few extra bytes, so
it wouldn't take up much bandwidth.

While you're there, it would also be useful to have a link to the next
programme in any series, so you could press one button to record episode
3, and then press another button to make the device automatically record
all the other episodes in the series. Or you could press one button to
record tonight's 10 O'Clock news and another to record every 10 O'Clock
news.

However, the other two things you asked for would be better served by
putting the information on the web and including a link, or a unique code
for the programme. As someone else pointed out, this is what the IBDB
provides

Simon.
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David Quinton March 30th 06 08:56 AM

MHEG application?
 
On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 00:03:28 +0100, Simon Slavin
. uk wrote:

While you're there, it would also be useful to have a link to the next
programme in any series, so you could press one button to record episode
3, and then press another button to make the device automatically record
all the other episodes in the series. Or you could press one button to
record tonight's 10 O'Clock news and another to record every 10 O'Clock
news.


My Humax can sort of do that.
You can edit Recording schedule to do it daily, weekly etc. But it
just repeats that timeslot without referring to the EPG.


However, the other two things you asked for would be better served by
putting the information on the web and including a link, or a unique code
for the programme. As someone else pointed out, this is what the IBDB
provides


Agreed.
The future wil be integration with the internet.
Mind you, the future most probably *will* be the internet (without ye
olde RF)
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