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Adrian A March 23rd 06 06:11 PM

Sky HD extra Sub not set in stone
 
wrote:
Tumbleweed wrote:
"Ed" wrote in message
ups.com...
Something like Demand over price resistance divided by churn
multiplied by cost of upgrade less cost of rival platform impact
over time.


Plus the fact that Joe Chav seems completely happy to pay £1500 for
a
huge plasma or LCD screen which is HD ready, so presumably he's also
got a couple of hundred quid that he's already put aside (mentally,
not physically - credit card debt will finance it as usual) for his
HD box.


From the reports I've read, a large proportion of HD buyers expect
the tv picture to be HD as soon as they get it home.


There was a report in a recent edition of 'What Video' about a survey
that showed that of those Americans who _thought_ there were receiving
HD broadcasts, half actually weren't. A common misassumption was that
an HD set was all they needed.


They'll be just like all the people that conected Nicam VCRs via RF only and
were convinced they were getting stereo play back.
--
Adrian A



Jim March 24th 06 12:57 AM

Sky HD extra Sub not set in stone
 
----- Original Message -----
From: "steeler"
Newsgroups: uk.media.tv.sky,uk.media.tv.misc,uk.tech.digital-tv
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 12:30 AM
Subject: Sky HD extra Sub not set in stone



in that any BBC service will not be available for country-wide roll-out on
a sky platform for, IMO, at least a year.


That seems very pessimistic given that the BBC have said they will start HD
services on the 15th May and will broadcast on Satellite and cable as soon
as possible. Sky are expected to start services at about that date. The
announcement from Sky due tomorrow should clarify.

--

HDTV UK FAQ http://www.burnyourbonus.co.uk/HDTV/faq.html



steeler March 24th 06 02:22 AM

Sky HD extra Sub not set in stone
 

"Jim" wrote in message
...
----- Original Message -----
From: "steeler"
Newsgroups: uk.media.tv.sky,uk.media.tv.misc,uk.tech.digital-tv
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 12:30 AM
Subject: Sky HD extra Sub not set in stone



in that any BBC service will not be available for country-wide roll-out
on a sky platform for, IMO, at least a year.


That seems very pessimistic given that the BBC have said they will start
HD
services on the 15th May and will broadcast on Satellite and cable as soon
as possible. Sky are expected to start services at about that date. The
announcement from Sky due tomorrow should clarify.


Regarding the BBC. Tests in London only start by that date. Also while sky
cannot block the BBC from putting their channels on satellite they sure can
drag their heels.



Ian March 24th 06 02:38 AM

Sky HD extra Sub not set in stone
 
Jim wrote:
----- Original Message -----
From: "steeler"
Newsgroups: uk.media.tv.sky,uk.media.tv.misc,uk.tech.digital-tv
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 12:30 AM
Subject: Sky HD extra Sub not set in stone



in that any BBC service will not be available for country-wide roll-out on
a sky platform for, IMO, at least a year.



That seems very pessimistic given that the BBC have said they will start HD
services on the 15th May and will broadcast on Satellite and cable as soon
as possible. Sky are expected to start services at about that date. The
announcement from Sky due tomorrow should clarify.

--

HDTV UK FAQ http://www.burnyourbonus.co.uk/HDTV/faq.html


On BBC digital text they announced they would be broadcasting HD on key
Wimbledon and World Cup matches.

--
Ian.

Adrian A March 24th 06 10:13 AM

Sky HD extra Sub not set in stone
 
steeler wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
...
----- Original Message -----
From: "steeler"
Newsgroups: uk.media.tv.sky,uk.media.tv.misc,uk.tech.digital-tv
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 12:30 AM
Subject: Sky HD extra Sub not set in stone



in that any BBC service will not be available for country-wide
roll-out on a sky platform for, IMO, at least a year.


That seems very pessimistic given that the BBC have said they will
start HD
services on the 15th May and will broadcast on Satellite and cable
as soon as possible. Sky are expected to start services at about
that date. The announcement from Sky due tomorrow should clarify.


Regarding the BBC. Tests in London only start by that date. Also
while sky cannot block the BBC from putting their channels on
satellite they sure can drag their heels.


Not just London.
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds30793.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/4834322.stm
--
Adrian A



Adrian A March 24th 06 10:38 AM

Sky HD extra Sub not set in stone
 
Adrian A wrote:
steeler wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
...
----- Original Message -----
From: "steeler"
Newsgroups: uk.media.tv.sky,uk.media.tv.misc,uk.tech.digital-tv
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 12:30 AM
Subject: Sky HD extra Sub not set in stone



in that any BBC service will not be available for country-wide
roll-out on a sky platform for, IMO, at least a year.

That seems very pessimistic given that the BBC have said they will
start HD
services on the 15th May and will broadcast on Satellite and cable
as soon as possible. Sky are expected to start services at about
that date. The announcement from Sky due tomorrow should clarify.


Regarding the BBC. Tests in London only start by that date. Also
while sky cannot block the BBC from putting their channels on
satellite they sure can drag their heels.


Not just London.
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds30793.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/4834322.stm


Also
http://www.bbc.co.uk/print/pressoffi.../08/hdtv.shtml



[email protected] March 24th 06 11:49 AM

Sky HD extra Sub not set in stone
 
Adrian A wrote:

wrote:
Tumbleweed wrote:
"Ed" wrote in message
ups.com...
Something like Demand over price resistance divided by churn
multiplied by cost of upgrade less cost of rival platform impact
over time.

Plus the fact that Joe Chav seems completely happy to pay £1500 for
a
huge plasma or LCD screen which is HD ready, so presumably he's also
got a couple of hundred quid that he's already put aside (mentally,
not physically - credit card debt will finance it as usual) for his
HD box.

From the reports I've read, a large proportion of HD buyers expect
the tv picture to be HD as soon as they get it home.


There was a report in a recent edition of 'What Video' about a survey
that showed that of those Americans who _thought_ there were receiving
HD broadcasts, half actually weren't. A common misassumption was that
an HD set was all they needed.


They'll be just like all the people that conected Nicam VCRs via RF only and
were convinced they were getting stereo play back.


Or, indeed, those who thought they were getting NICAM when their local
transmitters hadn't even been upgraded for it!


Nigel Barker March 24th 06 02:26 PM

Sky HD extra Sub not set in stone
 
On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 09:38:50 -0000, "Adrian A" wrote:

Not just London.
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds30793.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/4834322.stm


Also
http://www.bbc.co.uk/print/pressoffi.../08/hdtv.shtml


The BBC articles are pretty thin on technical content & in fact that last link
is to a BBC press release from last November. However the Digital Spy article
says "The BBC's HD service will be available via Sky's forthcoming HD service".
So is it going to be possible to buy a Sky HD receiver without subscribing?
Alternatively is there a non-Sky HD receiver that could be used to view the BBC?

--
Nigel Barker
Live from the sunny Cote d'Azur

steeler March 24th 06 02:32 PM

Sky HD extra Sub not set in stone
 

"Nigel Barker" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 09:38:50 -0000, "Adrian A" wrote:

Not just London.
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds30793.html
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/4834322.stm


Also
http://www.bbc.co.uk/print/pressoffi.../08/hdtv.shtml


The BBC articles are pretty thin on technical content & in fact that last
link
is to a BBC press release from last November. However the Digital Spy
article
says "The BBC's HD service will be available via Sky's forthcoming HD
service".
So is it going to be possible to buy a Sky HD receiver without
subscribing?


You will have to wait until they announce pricing to know for sure. If HD
boxes from sky are subsidised I imagine they will find some way to clawback
the costs.

Alternatively is there a non-Sky HD receiver that could be used to view
the BBC?


Not yet. I imagine a fair few are in development though.



loz March 24th 06 02:46 PM

Sky HD extra Sub not set in stone
 

"Nigel Barker" wrote in message
...
The BBC articles are pretty thin on technical content & in fact that last
link
is to a BBC press release from last November. However the Digital Spy
article
says "The BBC's HD service will be available via Sky's forthcoming HD
service".
So is it going to be possible to buy a Sky HD receiver without
subscribing?
Alternatively is there a non-Sky HD receiver that could be used to view
the BBC?


Sky HD boxes are £399 without a HD sub. £299 with a £10 sub
As shown on the www.sky.com/hd website

Loz




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