TiVo announces new pricing plans
 

On 2006-03-09, Bob wrote:
I paid for the O/S and interface, wishlist abilities, season passes etc.
when I bought the boxes. That was part of the OS when I purchased the box.

Granted, from time to time there are enhancements to all that but not
everyone uses all that stuff. At 20 bucks a month, that's a little steep for
program guide info.

Oh, well, in that case, stop paying the 20 bucks a month and see how it
goes for you.

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TiVo announces new pricing plans
 

I'm not paying $20 if you'd read the posts here.

Why do you always get so frickin' ****y when someone disagrees with you?

You've got a need to answer every post in this newsgroup like your the
frickin' Tivo god. And the frickin' DirecTV god.

Go play with your sheep.


"Mike Hunt" wrote in message
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On 2006-03-09, Bob wrote:
I paid for the O/S and interface, wishlist abilities, season passes etc.
when I bought the boxes. That was part of the OS when I purchased the
box.

Granted, from time to time there are enhancements to all that but not
everyone uses all that stuff. At 20 bucks a month, that's a little steep
for
program guide info.

Oh, well, in that case, stop paying the 20 bucks a month and see how it
goes for you.

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TiVo announces new pricing plans
 

"Bob" wrote in message
. com...
That's playing with semantics. As to whether you are licensing it or
buying
it. Best Buy doesn't run ads for Turbo Tax saying "for license". The
advertise it "for sale". All over their website are buttons for software
to
click that say "Buy Now".

Cause you are buying the package that includes the a license software to use
the software.

Regardless, if you've paid for the equipment, $20 a month is a bit steep.

I'll agree with that, but under the new structure one doesn't pay for the
box.

If someone buys a 3 year old Tivo off ebay, they are not going to want to
pay $20 a month to get programming info. Whether the rest of it is being
licensed to them or not.

Then maybe they shouldn't be buying a used box when they can get a new one
for free.

TiVo announces new pricing plans
 

In article ,
"Bob" wrote:

I love my Tivos but the pricing seems to be getting a bit steep.

Not to start a war here about this and that, but once we've paid for the
equipment, all you're really getting from Tivo is program guide info that
you're most likely getting from your cable provider already,

Not at all the same as the program guide is automatically inserted into
the TiVo to be used with Wish Lists and Season passes. For ANYONE who
watches a reasonable amount of TV it saves hours of searching your
Sunday TV Section in the paper.





or OTA if you
don't have cable. (I'm leaving DTV out as their pricing is completely
different.)

And as far as the equipment being free, not all of it is. The fancier boxes
are not free. So if I buy a DVD recorder with Tivo, my $19.95 per month is
subsidizing somebody else's rebate.

I'm glad my SA boxes has a lifetime sub and my others are DTV.



"Mike Hunt" wrote in message
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http://www.tivo.com/cms_static/press_82.html

Here are the highlights:

* The price for a TiVo box and a one-year service commitment is $19.95
a month or $224 prepaid

* The price for a TiVo box and a two-year service commitment is $18.95
a month or $369 prepaid

* The price for a TiVo box and a three-year service commitment is
$16.95 a month or $469 prepaid

- The product lifetime service option will be eliminated next week.

- The changes to the pricing structure and service-only options will
launch next week. The changes will not affect TiVo's current base of
subscriptions.

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TiVo announces new pricing plans
 

In article ,
"Bob" wrote:

I paid for the O/S and interface, wishlist abilities, season passes etc.
when I bought the boxes. That was part of the OS when I purchased the box.

Granted, from time to time there are enhancements to all that but not
everyone uses all that stuff. At 20 bucks a month, that's a little steep for
program guide info.

If your time in search YV Guide is worth less than $1 /hour than its
expensive.

TiVo announces new pricing plans
 

Not at all the same as the program guide is automatically inserted into
the TiVo to be used with Wish Lists and Season passes. For ANYONE who
watches a reasonable amount of TV it saves hours of searching your
Sunday TV Section in the paper.

Exactly, information that is delivered OTA free.

Most TVs bought in the last 5 years or so are capable of getting program
info either over the air or from the capable provider.

TiVo announces new pricing plans
 

Randy S. ) wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:
I think it's important to note that no one else has even
*speculated* as to a price or pricing model for the s3, as we have no
idea what they may do. There's just nothing to even speculate on. Will
they have an upfront cost or just monthly? Will there be a lifetime
option? What will the monthly fee be? None of these questions are even
remotely answerable, particularly since even Tivo probably hasn't
decided yet.

Since the hardware cost of a unit with two all-around HD tuners *plus*
two MPEG-2 encoders *plus* a larger hard drive is a going to be a *lot*
higher than that of current S2 units, I'd say they'd have to do something
radically different in pricing the S3.

If they didn't go with an up-front cost, they'd have to raise the monthly
cost, and it would be downright weird to have different monthly costs
for the exact same service.

Overall, this new pricing scheme is a lose-lose situation for the
customer:

- it's more expensive both short-term and long term
- it will make them harder to buy at retail stores...you can pay
different prices for an item with the same UPC code
- it appears there will be no more month-to-month payment option, which
I suspect is what people *actually* liked in the TiVo surveys
- another strong argument against month-to-month is that you would then
be able to walk out of a retail store with a TiVo box without paying
a dime...just *promising* to pay something
- the pricing model is exactly as if it were a lease, but you don't seem
to get the advantages of a lease (upgrade to new hardware as it comes
out, free repairs, etc.)

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TiVo announces new pricing plans
 

On 2006-03-09, Bob wrote:
Not at all the same as the program guide is automatically inserted into
the TiVo to be used with Wish Lists and Season passes. For ANYONE who
watches a reasonable amount of TV it saves hours of searching your
Sunday TV Section in the paper.

Exactly, information that is delivered OTA free.

Most TVs bought in the last 5 years or so are capable of getting program
info either over the air or from the capable provider.

And MythTV gets its guide data for free, along with the software being
free and the hardware may be free too.

If you're a TiVo fan, lets hope they know what they're doing. If you're
anti-TiVo, lets hope they don't know what they're doing. If you're in the
middle, you probably don't care all that much.

What was the point again? Oh yeah, expensive TiVo pricing plans... If
you think it's too expensive for what you're getting, don't get a TiVo -
problem solved.

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What was the point again? Oh yeah, expensive TiVo pricing plans... If
you think it's too expensive for what you're getting, don't get a TiVo -
problem solved.

And if you don't like my opinions, ignore me - problem solved.

TiVo announces new pricing plans
 

In article , Bob
wrote:

Regardless, if you've paid for the equipment, $20 a month is a bit steep.

If someone buys a 3 year old Tivo off ebay, they are not going to want to
pay $20 a month to get programming info. Whether the rest of it is being
licensed to them or not.

I think that, whatever you get for your money, prices at these levels
are going to scare potential customers away. We know how good these
machines are because we've been using them. New customers are a
different deal.

I think they might do well offering a free 30-day tryout. Hook 'em and
reel 'em in. I don't think anybody who uses one of these things for a
month could possibly give it up.