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Pete L February 23rd 06 09:02 PM

Sky Plus box question
 
I have just been given a Sky Plus box. We already have an ordinary Sky
subscription. I'm not exactly clear how I stand with this. Can I just
plug in the Sky Plus box, put in the card from the ordinary box and
just run a 2nd. coax down from my dish into the Plus box?

I get the impression that I have to inform Sky and plug in a telephone
connection and no doubt pay them some money. Rather than ask Sky about
this (who obviously will be biased) can anybody tell me the best course
of action with this?

Thanks


Tumbleweed February 23rd 06 09:24 PM

Sky Plus box question
 
"Pete L" wrote in message
oups.com...
I have just been given a Sky Plus box. We already have an ordinary Sky
subscription. I'm not exactly clear how I stand with this. Can I just
plug in the Sky Plus box, put in the card from the ordinary box and
just run a 2nd. coax down from my dish into the Plus box?

I get the impression that I have to inform Sky and plug in a telephone
connection and no doubt pay them some money. Rather than ask Sky about
this (who obviously will be biased) can anybody tell me the best course
of action with this?

Thanks

Until you inform Sky none of the recording functions will work. Once
informed, you'll either have to pay the tenner a month charge, unless its
waived because you have 2 or more premium channels. Plus, you'll need a new
LNB unless your LNB already has a spare feed on it which is unlikely (I
believe) if you have a standard isntallation. And you probably need to get
the dish realigned as a result of putting in the new LNB!

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Pete L February 23rd 06 09:26 PM

Sky Plus box question
 
Thanks for that - My LNB definitely has a spare feed. What about the
telephone connection. I'm not keen on connecting but do Sky insist on
it?


loz February 23rd 06 11:00 PM

Sky Plus box question
 

"Pete L" wrote in message
ups.com...
Thanks for that - My LNB definitely has a spare feed. What about the
telephone connection. I'm not keen on connecting but do Sky insist on
it?


No - you didn't buy it from them

Loz



Jomtien February 24th 06 08:30 AM

Sky Plus box question
 
loz wrote:

Thanks for that - My LNB definitely has a spare feed. What about the
telephone connection. I'm not keen on connecting but do Sky insist on
it?


No - you didn't buy it from them


The extremely vague (and hence illegal) T&Cs of the Sky+ appear to
require a phone connection for 12 months. In practice you will
probably need the phone connection briefly in order to activate the
recording functions but once that is done it will never be checked, so
it can be removed.

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Nigel Barker February 24th 06 09:03 AM

Sky Plus box question
 
On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 22:00:58 +0000 (UTC), "loz"
wrote:


"Pete L" wrote in message
oups.com...
Thanks for that - My LNB definitely has a spare feed. What about the
telephone connection. I'm not keen on connecting but do Sky insist on
it?


No - you didn't buy it from them

Loz

But they still insist on the telephone connection.

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Tumbleweed February 24th 06 09:05 AM

Sky Plus box question
 

"Jomtien" wrote in message
...
loz wrote:

Thanks for that - My LNB definitely has a spare feed. What about the
telephone connection. I'm not keen on connecting but do Sky insist on
it?


No - you didn't buy it from them


The extremely vague (and hence illegal) T&Cs of the Sky+


LOL. They might be invalid, or disputed, but they wont be 'illegal'.

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Jomtien February 25th 06 08:39 AM

Sky Plus box question
 
Mike Henry wrote:

the contract doesn't require
it unless Sky perform the installation. (Unless they have changed the
contract.)


The last Sky+ T&Cs I saw were incredibly vague and could be taken
either way.

--
Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these.
The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/8vef5
UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
BBC reception questions? ; http://www.astra2d.com/
Fed up with on-screen logos? : http://logofreetv.org/
----
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No monies return'd. ;-)

Jomtien February 25th 06 08:39 AM

Sky Plus box question
 
Tumbleweed wrote:

The extremely vague (and hence illegal) T&Cs of the Sky+


LOL. They might be invalid, or disputed, but they wont be 'illegal'.


UK law prohibits unfair contract terms. Terms that are deliberately
vague and imprecise could easily be considered unfair and, as such,
illegal.

--
Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these.
The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/8vef5
UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
BBC reception questions? ; http://www.astra2d.com/
Fed up with on-screen logos? : http://logofreetv.org/
----
Only the truth as I see it.
No monies return'd. ;-)

Tumbleweed February 25th 06 10:32 AM

Sky Plus box question
 

"Jomtien" wrote in message
...
Tumbleweed wrote:

The extremely vague (and hence illegal) T&Cs of the Sky+


LOL. They might be invalid, or disputed, but they wont be 'illegal'.


UK law prohibits unfair contract terms. Terms that are deliberately
vague and imprecise could easily be considered unfair and, as such,
illegal.


a **** load of assumptions there;

1) that they are *deliberately* vague and imprecise....that would take a lot
of proving, if only because millions have signed them and no one has taken
SKy to court so far (AFAIK) so very few people have considered them
imprecise.
2) That that is illegal to be deliberately vague.
3) That that aspect of the ts&Cs themselves, are unfair. They could be
vague but not unfair.
4) That that is illegal, rather than null and void.

IANAL but AIUI, unfair ts&Cs are not 'illegal' they are simply invalid and
dont apply. Its as if they werent there at all.
In other words, someone could have Ts&Cs in small print that you never saw
when signing, that said 'Jomtien must sacrifice his first born to me if he
ever mentions Tivo again' but the only effect of that would be that they
dont count.

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Jomtien February 26th 06 08:58 AM

Sky Plus box question
 
Tumbleweed wrote:

UK law prohibits unfair contract terms. Terms that are deliberately
vague and imprecise could easily be considered unfair and, as such,
illegal.


a **** load of assumptions there;

1) that they are *deliberately* vague and imprecise....that would take a lot
of proving, if only because millions have signed them and no one has taken
SKy to court so far (AFAIK) so very few people have considered them
imprecise.


Few people complained about slavery and the way the British government
controlled the opium trade. That doesn't make either any less true.
99% of people never complain about anything, as is well known.

I find it hard to imagine that anyone could be so incompetent as to
create such imprecise contract terms by accident.


2) That that is illegal to be deliberately vague.
3) That that aspect of the ts&Cs themselves, are unfair. They could be
vague but not unfair.
4) That that is illegal, rather than null and void.

IANAL but AIUI, unfair ts&Cs are not 'illegal' they are simply invalid and
dont apply. Its as if they werent there at all.


I refer you to the Fair Trading Act and the Unfair Contract Terms Act.

--
Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these.
The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/8vef5
UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
BBC reception questions? ; http://www.astra2d.com/
Fed up with on-screen logos? : http://logofreetv.org/
----
Only the truth as I see it.
No monies return'd. ;-)


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