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On Sat, 18 Feb 2006 11:30:02 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

Because there's more advertising minutes allowed per hour now than when
those progs were made

I wasn't aware that OFCOM had allowed the amount of commercials to be increased
recently. AFAIK it's the same as it has been for at least 5 years
http://www.ofcom.org.uk/tv/ifi/codes...uling_adv/rasa

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On Sat, 18 Feb 2006 07:05:28 +0000, Paul Hyett
wrote:

I wonder if channels get more complaints about censorship than
'inappropriate' language/scenes?

Complaints from viewers about censorship are easily ignored.
Complaints from Ofcom about 'inappropriate' language/scenes are not.

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On Sat, 18 Feb 2006 11:35:26 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

Early Taggart was film all the way through post production. But archives
will be tape - although the TX film print may still exist. But the cost of
another transfer too high. These channels run on peanuts.

It would be nice to think that one day, more of these original film
prints would be tracked down to be given another lease of life through
HD..

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On Sat, 18 Feb 2006 10:54:17 -0000, "Mark Carver"
wrote:

They sift up and down recordings of the programmes to decide where to bung in the breaks, and enter
the position (taken from the timecode track) into the playout computer.

You see this on Hallmark sometimes - quite often after the break
you'll see a few frames of the scene before the break.

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On Sat, 18 Feb 2006 07:05:28 +0000, Paul Hyett
wrote:

I wonder if channels get more complaints about censorship than
'inappropriate' language/scenes?

Complaints from viewers about censorship are easily ignored.
Complaints from Ofcom about 'inappropriate' language/scenes are not.



Indeed.

And if viewers do not cancel their subscriptions complaining about on-screen
crap and video-spam, BSKYB will not act unless they fear a financial
penalty.

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In article ,
Nigel Barker wrote:
I wasn't aware that OFCOM had allowed the amount of commercials to be
increased recently. AFAIK it's the same as it has been for at least 5
years

And Rumpole was made how many years ago?

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Colonel Montague Kitchen-Sink [Retired] wrote:

Now, the traditional (viz old IBA) concept of commercials being placed
in a 'natural break' (eg a scene change or cliff-hanger etc) has been
completely abandoned by ITV3 and horrid electronic captions are crudely
cut to screen in mid-sentence, devoid of even the most basic cross-fade
with accompanying lagging (or leading) sound to smooth the transition.
Yet the original productions had quite delightful 'End of Part' stings
which respected the 'natural break' concept - why do ITV3 deliberately
desecrate classic programmes which were made to the highest production
standards of the last fifty years ?

There also seems to be a desire to ensure that commercial breaks are
aligned with those on the other channels. Hence there is little
incentive to skip to another channel to skip the adverts (and less
chance you may get engrossed in some other program and fail to return!)

So even if the broadcasters wanted to redo the ad transitions nicely at
natural break points to accomodate more ad time, they probably would not
since they would risk loosing viewers mid program.


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In uk.media.tv.sky on Sat, 18 Feb 2006, Heracles Pollux wrote :

Complaints from viewers about censorship are easily ignored.
Complaints from Ofcom about 'inappropriate' language/scenes are not.

Indeed.

And if viewers do not cancel their subscriptions complaining about on-screen
crap and video-spam, BSKYB will not act unless they fear a financial
penalty.

But there needs to be some middle ground - something between accepting
all the crap they throw at us, and cancelling your subscription
entirely.

As for censorship :

If you have kids in the house, then it's *your* job to prevent them
watching something you consider inappropriate.

If not, then STFU and don't try to use the gov't to dictate to other
adults what they may or may not watch! :(
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John Rumm wrote:

There also seems to be a desire to ensure that commercial breaks are
aligned with those on the other channels.

That's the one.

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On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 01:32:05 +0000 (GMT), "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote:

In article ,
Nigel Barker wrote:
I wasn't aware that OFCOM had allowed the amount of commercials to be
increased recently. AFAIK it's the same as it has been for at least 5
years

And Rumpole was made how many years ago?

Point taken. OFCOM also legislates that advertising breaks must only occur in
'natural break' so it looks like there are strong grounds for a complaint if UK
Gold are ignoring this.
http://www.ofcom.org.uk/tv/ifi/codes...cog_nat_breaks

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