HDTV MythTV and HD Tivo series 3 compared.
 

* Wes Newell wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:
On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 00:49:06 +0000, SINNER wrote:

* Wes Newell wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:
On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 05:16:44 -0800, zafdor wrote:

IIRRC, it took something like 4 hours to first download and process the
data. The unit won't function til that is done, so I sure would consider
that as part of the setup time

How long would it take to DL your ISO image to build a myth machine
over the modem?

It would take forever because I wouldn't use a modem to do it. It takes
me about 45 minutes with my fios line. If I only had a modem, I'd pay a
couple of bucks to have someone send me the dvd.

You'd need a friend for that, perhaps you'd be better off waiting for
the modem download.

Still can't read I see. I've got a fios 5/2M broadband line. I don't need
anyone.:-)

I can read just fine, apparently you forgot what you posted even though
I left it up there clear as day :)

To Recap:

You said IF you had to use a modem....

I said, You'd need friends for that...

Good thing you dont have a modem becasue its unlikey you have [m]any
friends.

Clear now :)

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Espy out of context...

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Wes Newell wrote:
The comparison has been updated.

TiVo Series 3:
Number of tuners: Two logical tuners.
Type of tuners: Each logical tuner is capable of seamlessly handling
analog terrestrial and cable channels (NTSC),
terrestrial Over-The-Air digital channels (ATSC),
and digital cable channels conforming to the
CableCARD standards.

HDTV MythTV and HD Tivo series 3 compared.
 

Wes Newell ) wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:
There are no 19" CRT monitors that can fully resolve 1600x1200 and that
also cost less than $500. Do some research.

So how about this one;

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...&CMP=SPC-YAHOO

Nope.

The best it can do is about 1400x1000. With a viewable diagonal of
18.1" and a dot pitch of 0.26mm, that's the absolute best that can be
resolved.

And there's many more. Hundreds under $500. So all these manufactures are
basically liars is what you are saying.

No, they aren't lying because not one of them claim how much resolution
can actually be seen. Their only claim is the geometry of the maximum
scan rate.

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On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 21:03:13 -0500, Jeff Rife wrote:

Wes Newell ) wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:
Speed throttling has been available in AMD
cpu's
at least as early as 1999.

"Cool'n'Quiet is a CPU speed throttling and power saving technology
introduced by AMD with their Athlon 64 processor series."
-- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cool%27n%27Quiet

"The Athlon 64...represents AMD's entry into the consumer 64-bit
microprocessor market, released on September 23, 2003."
-- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athlon_64

Just 4 years off...yet another example of your lack of knowledge
concerning anything related to computers.

Wrong again, CnQ is nothing more than PowerNow which a new name that I
suppose they think sounds better. Powernow was introduced in the original
Athlon 4 Mobile CPU. I may have been of a little on the year though. it
could have been as late as early 2001. And while AMD marketed these as
Mobiles, all the cpu's were capable of powernow if you enabled it in the
cpu bridges. Same holds true for the later XP line. one bridge change
turns an XP into an XP-M (mobile with Powernow). Yu can also turn MP on
the same way if you want MP support for multi processors. Good try though.
You might win one one of these days...... but I doubt it.

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On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 18:51:14 -0800, Joe Smith wrote:

Wes Newell wrote:
The comparison has been updated.

TiVo Series 3:
Number of tuners: Two logical tuners.
Type of tuners: Each logical tuner is capable of seamlessly handling
analog terrestrial and cable channels (NTSC),
terrestrial Over-The-Air digital channels (ATSC),
and digital cable channels conforming to the
CableCARD standards.

Where did you get info from? Sounds right since one tuner card I have will
do atsc, ntsc, and digital cable. I need some sort of verification before
I change it in the comparison.

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Jeff,
Please don't feed the trolls!

Let them sit under their bridges searching out the crappiest hardware
on earth as a pastime. Oh what a sorry like they lead. You'll have
better luck teching a pig to sing, and when you give up on that, at
least you can have ham for dinner!

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On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 01:19:07 -0500, Jeff Rife wrote:

Wes Newell ) wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:
And now I'm real curious how you came to that conclusion. So, you must
be
saying that 1280x1024 monitor won't really do 1280x1024 either then, or
that a 640x400 monitor won't really do 640x 400. Can you explain this?

There are no 19" CRT monitors that can fully resolve 1600x1200 and that
also cost less than $500. Do some research.

So how about this one;

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...&CMP=SPC-YAHOO

And there's many more. Hundreds under $500. So all these manufactures are
basically liars is what you are saying. AOC, Memorex, CTX, Proview,
KDS just to name a few that have 19' 1600x1200 monitors with most being
under $200. Some like mine, under $100.

From AOC;

The 9GLR's wide display area promises easy viewing. A .21mm (h) mask dot
pitch and 1600x1200 resolution, running at 200Mhz, make content sharp. It
also offers multiple OSD functions.

This sells for $149. You might be able to fool a lot of people with your
BS, and excellent writing skils, but I'm not one of them.

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Wes, it amazes me how you continue to argue your points without actually
doing the research that was suggested. So, here is the idea explained...

Without any detailed specs on the monitor you mentioned, it is a fair
assumption that this monitor probably displays 72 dpi. A 19" monitor would
be about 15.2" (w) x 11.4" (h). Actually less, because of viewable area,
but we'll use the higher numbers for argument sake. Assuming a dpi of 72,
you get 15.2x72 = 1094.4 and 11.4x72 = 820.8 for a max resolution of about
1094x820. Assuming a dpi of 96 would give a max resolution of about
1459x1094 (which is pretty close to what Jeff had suggested).

There is a big difference between native resolution and max resolution that
a monitor can display. For example, look at the HDTV's that have a native
resolution of 720 or 768 lines, but advertise that they can do 1080i. Same
idea.

Jim

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Wes Newell ) wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:
Wrong again, CnQ is nothing more than PowerNow which a new name that I
suppose they think sounds better.

No, you have it backwards. "PowerNow!" is the current term.
"Cool'n'Quiet" was the term used when the feature was introduced with
the Athlon 64 series.

Powernow was introduced in the original
Athlon 4 Mobile CPU.

There was no "Athlon 4 Mobile CPU". The Athlon 64 Mobile was released
in 2003, just like the desktop version.

If you actually *read* the references I gave, you would have seen this.

Here, try again:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cool%27n%27Quiet
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athlon_64

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On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 13:41:45 -0500, Jeff Rife wrote:

Wes Newell ) wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:
Wrong again, CnQ is nothing more than PowerNow which a new name that I
suppose they think sounds better.

No, you have it backwards. "PowerNow!" is the current term.
"Cool'n'Quiet" was the term used when the feature was introduced with
the Athlon 64 series.

You're about a hard headed ignorant sob aren't you. No, I don't have it
backwards. You do.

Powernow was introduced in the
original
Athlon 4 Mobile CPU.

There was no "Athlon 4 Mobile CPU". The Athlon 64 Mobile was released
in 2003, just like the desktop version.

Maybe not in the world you live in, but it was sure available to everyone
else. It was a socket A (462) cpu. I was wrong though, Powernow was
actually introduced in the K6-2 and was formerly called Gemini. It carried
over into the K7 line of cpu's as Powernow.

If you actually *read* the references I gave, you would have seen this.

I read those years ago. I've been running AMD cpu's since the 486 days,
then 586's, K6's, K7's (Athlons/Durons/Semprons), now K8's
(Opterons/A64/Semprons).

Here, try again:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cool%27n%27Quiet

I suggest you read this part of it.

"This technology was introduced on new E-step Opterons branded as
Optimized Power Management (OPM), basically a modified Cool'n'Quiet to
work with registered RAM, in 2005."

They modded CnQ, which was formally called Powernow, a little and gave it
new name. This is the same they did with Powernow that was in the K7 cpu's.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athlon_64

Now there is a long list of modules I have loaded, so I'm going to cut all
but the relevent ones:
[[email protected] wes]# lsmod|grep powernow
powernow_k8 8264 0
freq_table 1732 1 powernow_k8 processor 11388 2
powernow_k8,thermal
[[email protected] wes]#

Now why the hell do you think it's called powernow_k8? you're in way over
your head trying to screw with me on this. I was one of the inovators of
overclocking both the K7 and K8 line of CPU's When the web reviewers
couldn't figure out how to get the K8 over about 220 system clock (FSB
clock), it took me about 1 minute to get to 233. When evryone on the web
and Abit said I couldn't run an Athlon XP in my old K7T board, I told them
they were full of crap and proved it. So you might want to stick to
something you claim you know something about because it's clear you don't
know crap about AMD cpu's.

And it seems I was right on with the 1999 date. Just was called Gemini
then instead of powernow. It was changed to powernow in 2000. They sure
like to change names of basically the same function don't they. Kind of
like the K7 Sempron name. Just a renamed Athlon XP. Well, that stories on
my server if you care to look. And so is most of the other cpu info. What
I did with the K8 was so simple I didn't even make a page for it. So read
this. And note the dates.

http://www.anandtech.com/mobile/showdoc.aspx?i=1318&p=3

Here's a little history of how powernow was implimented in the Linux
kernel. Note the powernow for the K6 cpu's.

http://tlug.up.ac.za/old/guides/lkcg...u_cpufreq.html

Sorry to prove you wrong again. Maybe you 'll learn.

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On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 05:54:35 -0800, zafdor wrote:

Jeff,
Please don't feed the trolls!

It would be better if he didn't even post. About everything he write is
BS. And you people suck it up like a milkshake.:-)



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