looking for a tv with less blurring than my current sony bravia 26"
 

Right now I am the owner of a Sony Bravia KLVS26A10 26" lcd flat panel.
Its a good tv but there is a little too much blurring in 1st person
shooter type games on the Xbox 360.
The other tv's I tried and returned were Samsung LNR268W returned 2
sets because of MANY stuck pixels, Toshiba 27HLV95 bad ghosting and
blurring, Sharp Aquos LC26DA5U bad blurring, incurable red push and no
pc input - I plan on hooking up my desktop to my tv for some FarCry and
HalfLife2 sometime.
I am looking for a tv with a better response time/less blurring than
the Bravia, hdmi with hdcp or dvi with hdcp, a vga input for the pc.
Also I do not want it to apply any image processing which cannot be
turned off like DNIe on the Samsung lcd's - it makes xbox 360 game
characters have extra lines around them - particular in sports games.
The blurring on my po monitor a Samsung 17" 712n is 12ms, is much less
obvious than on my Bravis whose response time is supposedly 8ms. This
leads me to think that Sony is less than honest with their response time
reporting.
Are all tv manufacturers fudging their lcd's response times ? The
Sony I have only has only one stuck pixel which is very dim and only
visible from the right side of the tv and within a couple of feet at that.
Can anyone reccomend a 26" lcd with little to no blurring, a hdmi
input, and no image processing that cannot be turned off and a good
track record of selling panels with minimal stuck/dead pixels ?

looking for a tv with less blurring than my current sony bravia 26"
 

"Stygian" wrote in message
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Right now I am the owner of a Sony Bravia KLVS26A10 26" lcd flat panel.
Its a good tv but there is a little too much blurring in 1st person
shooter type games on the Xbox 360.
The other tv's I tried and returned were Samsung LNR268W returned 2 sets
because of MANY stuck pixels, Toshiba 27HLV95 bad ghosting and blurring,
Sharp Aquos LC26DA5U bad blurring, incurable red push and no pc input - I
plan on hooking up my desktop to my tv for some FarCry and HalfLife2
sometime.
I am looking for a tv with a better response time/less blurring than the
Bravia, hdmi with hdcp or dvi with hdcp, a vga input for the pc.
Also I do not want it to apply any image processing which cannot be turned
off like DNIe on the Samsung lcd's - it makes xbox 360 game characters
have extra lines around them - particular in sports games.
The blurring on my po monitor a Samsung 17" 712n is 12ms, is much less
obvious than on my Bravis whose response time is supposedly 8ms. This
leads me to think that Sony is less than honest with their response time
reporting.

Virtually everyone is less than honest with their response times for LCD
monitors. The fact is, LCDs cannot go much faster than about 20-35ms without
employing a technique known as "overdrive", in which it overshoots the
intended color and brightness (resulting in increased video noise), only
gradually returning to the intended color over several subsequent frames,
and even then they can't consistently get much below 10-15ms.

Most LCD monitors claiming sub-10ms times are found to actually have
response times up to 30-35ms in conditions other than those they were tested
under. (The response time depends on the actual starting and ending color.
It turns out that white-to-black times are the fastest, but other
intermediate changes are much slower.)

Are all tv manufacturers fudging their lcd's response times ?

Yup. And computer monitor manufacturers as well. Now some that use overdrive
are getting more honest (as they can produce more consistent times across
most circumstances), but generally not while claiming sub-10ms times, and
again, that comes with increased video noise (on top of the already-poor
color and contrast characteristics of LCD), which may not affect day-to-day
computer use as much as it affects video.

The Sony I have only has only one stuck pixel which is very dim and only
visible from the right side of the tv and within a couple of feet at that.
Can anyone reccomend a 26" lcd with little to no blurring, a hdmi input,
and no image processing that cannot be turned off and a good track record
of selling panels with minimal stuck/dead pixels ?

looking for a tv with less blurring than my current sony bravia 26"
 

On Mon, 06 Feb 2006 13:12:48 -0800, Stygian wrote:
Right now I am the owner of a Sony Bravia KLVS26A10 26" lcd flat panel.
Its a good tv but there is a little too much blurring in 1st person
shooter type games on the Xbox 360.
The other tv's I tried and returned were Samsung LNR268W returned 2
sets because of MANY stuck pixels, Toshiba 27HLV95 bad ghosting and
blurring, Sharp Aquos LC26DA5U bad blurring, incurable red push and no
pc input - I plan on hooking up my desktop to my tv for some FarCry and
HalfLife2 sometime.
I am looking for a tv with a better response time/less blurring than
the Bravia, hdmi with hdcp or dvi with hdcp, a vga input for the pc.
Also I do not want it to apply any image processing which cannot be
turned off like DNIe on the Samsung lcd's - it makes xbox 360 game
characters have extra lines around them - particular in sports games.
The blurring on my po monitor a Samsung 17" 712n is 12ms, is much less
obvious than on my Bravis whose response time is supposedly 8ms. This
leads me to think that Sony is less than honest with their response time
reporting.

Maybe cpu and/or video card response is causing your blurring. With a
Samsung 19" LCD tv/monitor (only 25ms response) using AMD 64 3200+ with
nVidia 6800 video, I have never noticed any blur at all playing Doom III @
60 fps or even faster Quake III with higher contrast (black background).
I did notice some ghosting with analog TV (scrolling text), but that must
have been the 30 fps interlaced source. If your display has freeze frame,
you could tell if it is the display or the source that is blurred.

Maybe game consoles that cost less than a good video card are simply not
that fast.

I also have a 27" LCD HDTV (16ms), but have not tried gaming with it.
Other than my cell phone (dropped a bunch of times), I have had NO stuck
or dead pixels since my Sony laptop purchased 1/2000. If you get droplets
of liquid or grease from your finger on your screen it might appear to
have stuck or dead pixels, but cleaning the screen resolves that
distortion.