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In article , Jomtien
says...

Ask Sony, Panasonic, Tivo, ITV, the BBC etc. what they think about
Sky. But ask them in private.

Could that be to do with the fact that they're jealous of the money
that Sky makes?


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Jomtien wrote:
Brian McIlwrath wrote:

: I suspect that they all bitterly regret ever having become involved
: with Sky, as indeed apparently do all companies that ever become
: involved with Sky.

Whereas I strongly suspect that you are engaging in wishful thinking!

All of C4/C5 (and others) seem to find Sky very professional and will quite
likely go with them for HD as well!

Ask Sony, Panasonic, Tivo, ITV, the BBC etc. what they think about
Sky. But ask them in private.

Many broadcasters using Sky encryption do so because they were
railroaded into it. Sky are masters of the "offer you can't refuse".

Greg Dyke's autobiography goes into a fair amount of detail regarding
the BBC's move to FTA. Nothing that regular readers of this newsgroup
won't already know, but you're left with no doubt as to Dyke's opinion
of Sky.

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Conor wrote:
In article , Jomtien
says...

Ask Sony, Panasonic, Tivo, ITV, the BBC etc. what they think about
Sky. But ask them in private.

Could that be to do with the fact that they're jealous of the money
that Sky makes?

Why would they be jealous of a company that makes money by lying to
customers?

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On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 09:00:00 +0100, Jomtien wrote:

Clem Dye wrote:

Of course the downside is that without $ky kit, the likes of
C4, C5 etc. won't be up for grabs on SD.

I will wager a small sum that both of these will stop encrypting just
as soon as their contracts with Sky allow.

They could stop encrypting NOW if they wanted to. (Just because you
subscribe to a magazine doesn't mean you have to read it.)

But as both of them re-signed encryption deals fairly recently, it
seems pretty unlikely that they DO want to.

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Conor wrote:

Ask Sony, Panasonic, Tivo, ITV, the BBC etc. what they think about
Sky. But ask them in private.

Could that be to do with the fact that they're jealous of the money
that Sky makes?

That seems most unlikely. There are many much richer companies around
yet I doubt that any of the companies I mentioned have any strong
opinion about those.

No, those companies don't like Sky simply because they have all been
shafted by Sky at some point.

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UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
BBC reception questions? ; http://www.astra2d.com/
Fed up with on-screen logos? : http://logofreetv.org/
----
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Zero Tolerance wrote:

Of course the downside is that without $ky kit, the likes of
C4, C5 etc. won't be up for grabs on SD.

I will wager a small sum that both of these will stop encrypting just
as soon as their contracts with Sky allow.

They could stop encrypting NOW if they wanted to. (Just because you
subscribe to a magazine doesn't mean you have to read it.)

It has been suggested that the contracts between Sky and C4/C5
actually oblige them to use the encryption. Unfortunately we are
unlikely to ever have any proof either way.


But as both of them re-signed encryption deals fairly recently, it
seems pretty unlikely that they DO want to.

And why should C4 and C5 be so pleased with Sky when the BBC and ITV
clearly aren't, I wonder?

--
Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these.
The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/8vef5
UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
BBC reception questions? ; http://www.astra2d.com/
Fed up with on-screen logos? : http://logofreetv.org/
----
Only the truth as I see it.
No monies return'd. ;-)

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On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 09:22:24 +0100, Jomtien wrote:

It has been suggested that the contracts between Sky and C4/C5
actually oblige them to use the encryption.

That would certainly make sense for channels where Sky paid C4 - like
E4 or FilmFour - but I very much doubt that there would be any
obligation to use the service for the FTV encoding. After all, C4 and
C5 are the clients there - THEY are paying money to Sky for that
service. That is their choice.

And why should C4 and C5 be so pleased with Sky when the BBC and ITV
clearly aren't, I wonder?

Because ITV have viewed Sky as their mortal enemies since even before
the analogue launch days, and because the BBC has the most to lose if
Sky becomes the dominant satellite platform. Remember, the BBC's
motives in going FTA on satellite, and in launching Freeview, are
solely to maintain the status quo that everyone who has a television
must be *forced* to pay for the BBC. It is their publicly-stated aim
to ensure that they are never forced to be funded only by people who
*want* their services, they want *everyone* to have to pay, and to
have to *keep* paying.

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On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 09:22:24 +0100, Jomtien wrote:

No, those companies don't like Sky simply because they have all been
shafted by Sky at some point.

ITV were running press campaigns and trying to get Sky ruled illegal
back before Sky even launched or had an opportunity to shaft anyone.

Maybe the real reason is that they're just scared of competition.

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Zero Tolerance wrote:

It has been suggested that the contracts between Sky and C4/C5
actually oblige them to use the encryption.

That would certainly make sense for channels where Sky paid C4 - like
E4 or FilmFour - but I very much doubt that there would be any
obligation to use the service for the FTV encoding. After all, C4 and
C5 are the clients there - THEY are paying money to Sky for that
service. That is their choice.

As I said, it has been suggested otherwise.

--
Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these.
The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/8vef5
UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
BBC reception questions? ; http://www.astra2d.com/
Fed up with on-screen logos? : http://logofreetv.org/
----
Only the truth as I see it.
No monies return'd. ;-)

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On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 09:35:36 +0100, Jomtien wrote:

Zero Tolerance wrote:

It has been suggested that the contracts between Sky and C4/C5
actually oblige them to use the encryption.

That would certainly make sense for channels where Sky paid C4 - like
E4 or FilmFour - but I very much doubt that there would be any
obligation to use the service for the FTV encoding. After all, C4 and
C5 are the clients there - THEY are paying money to Sky for that
service. That is their choice.

As I said, it has been suggested otherwise.

I suggest that these suggestions may be false.

You can 'suggest' anything you like. Doesn't make it true.