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1968.9.44.84 January 15th 06 07:44 AM

SAMSUNG HCN4226W... Purchased 6/15/04............Died today January 15th 2006 RIP So what's a GOOD LCD?
 
My Father was a Engineer who worked for RCA, on the side he fixed TV's and
taught me. TV's lasting 15 even 30 years wasn't uncommon, especially for
some B&W's. I purchased a Proscan 36" 10 years ago and when that gave up the
ghost, I looked at the Samsung. Since I was happy with the DVD players, I
figured let me look at the TV's. It got good reviews, but didn't last long
now did it.

I'm making a service call on Monday to Samsung just to find out how much it
will cost me to fix, but honestly I may just take it apart myself and buy a
new set. I may go back to the CRT's. (the TV's are pretty much on 24/7)
From looking over the DLP's and Plasma.... The lifespan of these two types
aren't impressive, the DLP lamp issue is horrid, the LCD's fair better....
and a lot of hype surrounds HDTV. I'm certainly not impressed by it. The
GREATEST boost in quality certainly came from dumping cable and going Sat.

I've got the CRT's down, but will look at the LCD's. I do like the wall
mounting saves a lot of room. I'd stay with the 42 inch area. What does
everybody think of the Hitachi, Toshiba's and Panasonics???



G-squared January 15th 06 08:54 AM

SAMSUNG HCN4226W... Purchased 6/15/04............Died today January 15th 2006 RIP So what's a GOOD LCD?
 

1968.9.44.84 wrote:
My Father was a Engineer who worked for RCA, on the side he fixed TV's and
taught me. TV's lasting 15 even 30 years wasn't uncommon, especially for
some B&W's. I purchased a Proscan 36" 10 years ago and when that gave up the
ghost, I looked at the Samsung. Since I was happy with the DVD players, I
figured let me look at the TV's. It got good reviews, but didn't last long
now did it.

I'm making a service call on Monday to Samsung just to find out how much it
will cost me to fix, but honestly I may just take it apart myself and buy a
new set. I may go back to the CRT's. (the TV's are pretty much on 24/7)
From looking over the DLP's and Plasma.... The lifespan of these two types
aren't impressive, the DLP lamp issue is horrid, the LCD's fair better....
and a lot of hype surrounds HDTV. I'm certainly not impressed by it. The
GREATEST boost in quality certainly came from dumping cable and going Sat.

I've got the CRT's down, but will look at the LCD's. I do like the wall
mounting saves a lot of room. I'd stay with the 42 inch area. What does
everybody think of the Hitachi, Toshiba's and Panasonics???


I don't understand 'back' to CRTs when that Samsung IS a CRT.

http://www.globaltechelectronics.com...26W_A_pid_1160

What am I missing? BTW why is it on 24/7? Even if a Samsung DLP reached
its projected 8000 hr lamp life, you'd use it up in 11 months. Also, if
you DID run the dead one 24/7, you've got over 13000 hrs on it. As of
last night, my DLP has 3916 hrs on the original lamp (25 months) but we
do turn it off.

Good luck on the next one. In your case, buy the extended warranty.

GG


1968.9.44.84 January 15th 06 04:48 PM

SAMSUNG HCN4226W... Purchased 6/15/04............Died today January 15th 2006 RIP So what's a GOOD LCD?
 
You seem to be missing a great deal kid.... You accept premature equipment
failure! You think that's all good?

The Samsung is CRT Rear Projection don't mince words kid. If you didn't know
what I was talking about you must be really thick. You offer nothing but try
to pat yourself on the back at how smartass and clever you are. I asked What
does everybody think of the Hitachi, Toshiba's and Panasonics??? did you
answer of course not!
all you want to do is bust my chops????

I think when you start paying prices that equal used cars (even new) for a
TV, you should expect more. 30K+ life time. This Computer and many, Many
more servers and monitors have been on since 1998 24/7. and We can talk
thousands......... LCD Monitors and CRT's that have been on since. Don't
tell me they can't do it. I know they can. As for 24/7 We had TV Monitors
that ran 24/7 for many years.

You really must look into manufacturing to extend the life of any
non-mechanical device is pennies on the dollar, selection of higher wattage
or tighter spec component. The first thing I'm going to do is examine what
caused the failure... and if it was related to workmanship or a cheap
component failure. I'll rest my case~

It isn't the money, and for you to think that 13000 hours is acceptable life
span and brag about your 3900 hr life span.

If all you have to offer is your bull****............. then **** off kid!



"G-squared" wrote in message
oups.com...

1968.9.44.84 wrote:
My Father was a Engineer who worked for RCA, on the side he fixed TV's
and
taught me. TV's lasting 15 even 30 years wasn't uncommon, especially for
some B&W's. I purchased a Proscan 36" 10 years ago and when that gave up
the
ghost, I looked at the Samsung. Since I was happy with the DVD players, I
figured let me look at the TV's. It got good reviews, but didn't last
long
now did it.

I'm making a service call on Monday to Samsung just to find out how much
it
will cost me to fix, but honestly I may just take it apart myself and buy
a
new set. I may go back to the CRT's. (the TV's are pretty much on 24/7)
From looking over the DLP's and Plasma.... The lifespan of these two
types
aren't impressive, the DLP lamp issue is horrid, the LCD's fair
better....
and a lot of hype surrounds HDTV. I'm certainly not impressed by it. The
GREATEST boost in quality certainly came from dumping cable and going
Sat.

I've got the CRT's down, but will look at the LCD's. I do like the wall
mounting saves a lot of room. I'd stay with the 42 inch area. What does
everybody think of the Hitachi, Toshiba's and Panasonics???


I don't understand 'back' to CRTs when that Samsung IS a CRT.

http://www.globaltechelectronics.com...26W_A_pid_1160

What am I missing? BTW why is it on 24/7? Even if a Samsung DLP reached
its projected 8000 hr lamp life, you'd use it up in 11 months. Also, if
you DID run the dead one 24/7, you've got over 13000 hrs on it. As of
last night, my DLP has 3916 hrs on the original lamp (25 months) but we
do turn it off.

Good luck on the next one. In your case, buy the extended warranty.

GG




G-squared January 15th 06 07:45 PM

SAMSUNG HCN4226W... Purchased 6/15/04............Died today January 15th 2006 RIP So what's a GOOD LCD?
 

1968.9.44.84 wrote:
You seem to be missing a great deal kid.... You accept premature equipment
failure! You think that's all good?

The Samsung is CRT Rear Projection don't mince words kid. If you didn't know
what I was talking about you must be really thick. You offer nothing but try
to pat yourself on the back at how smartass and clever you are. I asked What
does everybody think of the Hitachi, Toshiba's and Panasonics??? did you
answer of course not!
all you want to do is bust my chops????

I think when you start paying prices that equal used cars (even new) for a
TV, you should expect more. 30K+ life time. This Computer and many, Many
more servers and monitors have been on since 1998 24/7. and We can talk
thousands......... LCD Monitors and CRT's that have been on since. Don't
tell me they can't do it. I know they can. As for 24/7 We had TV Monitors
that ran 24/7 for many years.

You really must look into manufacturing to extend the life of any
non-mechanical device is pennies on the dollar, selection of higher wattage
or tighter spec component. The first thing I'm going to do is examine what
caused the failure... and if it was related to workmanship or a cheap
component failure. I'll rest my case~

It isn't the money, and for you to think that 13000 hours is acceptable life
span and brag about your 3900 hr life span.

If all you have to offer is your bull****............. then **** off kid!

snip

I guess you go into the 'north end of a south-bound horse' category.
GG


1968.9.44.84 January 15th 06 08:27 PM

SAMSUNG HCN4226W... Purchased 6/15/04............Died today January 15th 2006 RIP So what's a GOOD LCD?
 
Yeah and Remember! Not to pick your nose and pat yourself on the back
kid.... Your getting boogers on your **** stained T-shirt again... and I can
only guess how hard your mother works to keep you looking halfway
presentable in the trailer park!

Still pulling your own dick huh kid!


"G-squared" wrote in message
oups.com...

1968.9.44.84 wrote:
You seem to be missing a great deal kid.... You accept premature
equipment
failure! You think that's all good?

The Samsung is CRT Rear Projection don't mince words kid. If you didn't
know
what I was talking about you must be really thick. You offer nothing but
try
to pat yourself on the back at how smartass and clever you are. I asked
What
does everybody think of the Hitachi, Toshiba's and Panasonics??? did you
answer of course not!
all you want to do is bust my chops????

I think when you start paying prices that equal used cars (even new) for
a
TV, you should expect more. 30K+ life time. This Computer and many, Many
more servers and monitors have been on since 1998 24/7. and We can talk
thousands......... LCD Monitors and CRT's that have been on since. Don't
tell me they can't do it. I know they can. As for 24/7 We had TV Monitors
that ran 24/7 for many years.

You really must look into manufacturing to extend the life of any
non-mechanical device is pennies on the dollar, selection of higher
wattage
or tighter spec component. The first thing I'm going to do is examine
what
caused the failure... and if it was related to workmanship or a cheap
component failure. I'll rest my case~

It isn't the money, and for you to think that 13000 hours is acceptable
life
span and brag about your 3900 hr life span.

If all you have to offer is your bull****............. then **** off kid!

snip

I guess you go into the 'north end of a south-bound horse' category.
GG




Phil Ross January 15th 06 08:49 PM

SAMSUNG HCN4226W... Purchased 6/15/04............Died today January 15th 2006 RIP So what's a GOOD LCD?
 
Wow, with apparent anger issues like yours, I would worry more about your
own longevity than that of your particular television. Do you always
overreact like this? Not terribly healthy.


"1968.9.44.84" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
Yeah and Remember! Not to pick your nose and pat yourself on the back
kid.... Your getting boogers on your **** stained T-shirt again... and I
can only guess how hard your mother works to keep you looking halfway
presentable in the trailer park!

Still pulling your own dick huh kid!





1968.9.44.84 January 15th 06 09:05 PM

SAMSUNG HCN4226W... Purchased 6/15/04............Died today January 15th 2006 RIP So what's a GOOD LCD?
 
Anger Issues? HeCOULD have been helpful instead he offers nothing and then
politely calls me a horses ass........... If anyone has issues it's people
like him. Passive aggressive or perhaps Bi-Polar. He takes his time to waste
both of ours. Not a productive person at all. So what do you have to
add............. not much either! I was simply blowing off some lonely kid
who feels like you that he has to say something anything just to make him
think he's in the game. Eh Phil?

Betcha he owns a Samsuck........ and is simply being defensive. Eh? Phil....
Hope you parents didn't spend to much money on your psychology education!



"Phil Ross" wrote in message
. ..
Wow, with apparent anger issues like yours, I would worry more about your
own longevity than that of your particular television. Do you always
overreact like this? Not terribly healthy.


"1968.9.44.84" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
Yeah and Remember! Not to pick your nose and pat yourself on the back
kid.... Your getting boogers on your **** stained T-shirt again... and I
can only guess how hard your mother works to keep you looking halfway
presentable in the trailer park!

Still pulling your own dick huh kid!







Larry Bud January 15th 06 09:14 PM

SAMSUNG HCN4226W... Purchased 6/15/04............Died today January 15th 2006 RIP So what's a GOOD LCD?
 

1968.9.44.84 wrote:
Anger Issues? HeCOULD have been helpful instead he offers nothing and then
politely calls me a horses ass........... If anyone has issues it's people
like him. Passive aggressive or perhaps Bi-Polar. He takes his time to waste
both of ours. Not a productive person at all. So what do you have to
add............. not much either! I was simply blowing off some lonely kid
who feels like you that he has to say something anything just to make him
think he's in the game. Eh Phil?

Betcha he owns a Samsuck........ and is simply being defensive. Eh? Phil....
Hope you parents didn't spend to much money on your psychology education!


Do you talk to people like this face to face, or do you pussy out?


G-squared January 15th 06 09:30 PM

SAMSUNG HCN4226W... Purchased 6/15/04............Died today January 15th 2006 RIP So what's a GOOD LCD?
 

1968.9.44.84 wrote:
Anger Issues? HeCOULD have been helpful instead he offers nothing and then
politely calls me a horses ass........... If anyone has issues it's people
like him. Passive aggressive or perhaps Bi-Polar. He takes his time to waste
both of ours. Not a productive person at all. So what do you have to
add............. not much either! I was simply blowing off some lonely kid
who feels like you that he has to say something anything just to make him
think he's in the game. Eh Phil?

Betcha he owns a Samsuck........ and is simply being defensive. Eh? Phil....
Hope you parents didn't spend to much money on your psychology education!


snip

Yes, I own a Samsung and am not being defensive about it or promoting
it. I can only state facts about it and make no claims as to general
reliablity since I have but 1 and know of 2 friends with the same
model, 1 with a bulb failure, the other none so far, like mine. You
OTOH have decided that on the basis of one bad Samsung, that ALL of
them are bad. If you asked for people who have had problems with any
brand, you WILL find some that 'died' prematurely. That tells you very
little since you don't know the type of failure, how many were sold etc
and also that many people complain loudly when there is a problem but
don't tell you when its OK. That's why I mentioned mine as I did. BTW,
stating facts isn't bragging.

As far as LCDs go, I don' t like direct view units because of color
temperature variations vs viewing angle. This is not the case for LCD
projectors but now you're back to the lamp life issue again.

I know there is an issue with color wheels being moving parts and all
but I fully expect that portion to make 15000 hours which I consider
adequate life. Thats works out to 4 hrs/day for 10 years. I don't WANT
a ten year old TV as the newer ones make a better picture, and that is
the whole POINT of a TV.

I suspect you're not in California because $0.15 / kWh would get pretty
pricy to keep all your gear on all the time.

I hope you're feeling better now.

GG


1968.9.44.84 January 15th 06 09:34 PM

SAMSUNG HCN4226W... Purchased 6/15/04............Died today January 15th 2006 RIP So what's a GOOD LCD?
 
Are you queer for me, looking for a father figure or just following me
around because you're lonely and have nothing better to do?

Look I don't give **** to people unless all I get is ****..... Is that tough
for you to understand? Eh Einstein???

Just because you see a post are you compulsive enough not to be able to
control yourself to post nothing of any value? Has the Ritalin warn off?

Get Real Chief, try to find something constructive to do with your time.

BTWYM I can walk the walk!


"Larry Bud" wrote in message
oups.com...

1968.9.44.84 wrote:
Anger Issues? HeCOULD have been helpful instead he offers nothing and
then
politely calls me a horses ass........... If anyone has issues it's
people
like him. Passive aggressive or perhaps Bi-Polar. He takes his time to
waste
both of ours. Not a productive person at all. So what do you have to
add............. not much either! I was simply blowing off some lonely
kid
who feels like you that he has to say something anything just to make him
think he's in the game. Eh Phil?

Betcha he owns a Samsuck........ and is simply being defensive. Eh?
Phil....
Hope you parents didn't spend to much money on your psychology education!


Do you talk to people like this face to face, or do you pussy out?





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