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Steve Bryan September 28th 03 11:09 AM

(John S. Dyson) wrote in message ...
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"Richard R" writes:
Bob's comments aside, the hdtv transition is a disaster for many reasons.
The tuner and 8VSB is just one of dozens of problems in standardization and
appropriate equipment. Anyone who thinks the transition will be complete by
2006 must not be taking their medicine on a regular basis.

My original predictions (made in 1987) were that AFTER INTRODUCTION,
our new HDTV scheme will take 15yrs to get 1/2 of the market. This
is more similar to ColorTV than VCR take-up. So far, the reality
of the market is that we are approx 3-4 years after introduction.

Relative to my prediction, we are doing BETTER than I had expected.


This topic has come up recently on an AVS forum. The implication was
that if all the stations (about 1700 of which 1024 are already
digital) have made the transition then it may prove easy to turn off
the analog channels. The reasoning has to do with the specific wording
of the 85% requirement. If one TV in a home can receive the all the
local digital channels then it qualifies. For cable subscribers as
long as the cable company is carrying the locals their STB will
satisfy that requirement. It wouldn't matter whether the set is
digital or NTSC since the STB will certainly have DVI and composite
outputs. There may be some laggard stations or cable providers but it
provides about 70% compliance with no effort required of the
subscriber.

That means half who are not cable subscribers (or 15% of the total)
needing to purchase an ATSC receiver. Still a tall order from current
trends but you could almost imagine a subsidy from beneficiaries of
newly available spectrum being a possibility to finish the transition
sooner rather than later.

Vidguy7 September 28th 03 04:01 PM

The way technology is moving to think that the TV spectrum from channel 2 to
51 would still be afflicted with 8-VSB in 11 more years is ludicrous.


Certainly not as ludricrous as some of the comments you make here almost daily.

Vidguy7 September 28th 03 04:01 PM

The way technology is moving to think that the TV spectrum from channel 2 to
51 would still be afflicted with 8-VSB in 11 more years is ludicrous.


Certainly not as ludricrous as some of the comments you make here almost daily.

Richard R September 28th 03 06:46 PM

The transition certainly does not seem to be going well.

Here in Denver the many cable companies are not in any hurry to convert to
HDTV. My own cable service which already has its own digital service of 500
channels (QAM) will not even discuss when they will convert as most of their
customers seem to be happy with digital. This also does not address how
they are going to put spectrum expensive 1080i/720p in place. They could
loose 1/2 or more of their channel space.

The local stations are still battling local homeowners about adding new
antenna systems for hdtv. They recently got permission from the local
county, but the homeowners promptly went to court. They will be lucky to
even have the antennas in place by Jan 1 2006.

Richard R.




"Steve Bryan" wrote in message
om...
This topic has come up recently on an AVS forum. The implication was
that if all the stations (about 1700 of which 1024 are already
digital) have made the transition then it may prove easy to turn off
the analog channels. The reasoning has to do with the specific wording
of the 85% requirement. If one TV in a home can receive the all the
local digital channels then it qualifies. For cable subscribers as
long as the cable company is carrying the locals their STB will
satisfy that requirement. It wouldn't matter whether the set is
digital or NTSC since the STB will certainly have DVI and composite
outputs. There may be some laggard stations or cable providers but it
provides about 70% compliance with no effort required of the
subscriber.




Richard R September 28th 03 06:46 PM

The transition certainly does not seem to be going well.

Here in Denver the many cable companies are not in any hurry to convert to
HDTV. My own cable service which already has its own digital service of 500
channels (QAM) will not even discuss when they will convert as most of their
customers seem to be happy with digital. This also does not address how
they are going to put spectrum expensive 1080i/720p in place. They could
loose 1/2 or more of their channel space.

The local stations are still battling local homeowners about adding new
antenna systems for hdtv. They recently got permission from the local
county, but the homeowners promptly went to court. They will be lucky to
even have the antennas in place by Jan 1 2006.

Richard R.




"Steve Bryan" wrote in message
om...
This topic has come up recently on an AVS forum. The implication was
that if all the stations (about 1700 of which 1024 are already
digital) have made the transition then it may prove easy to turn off
the analog channels. The reasoning has to do with the specific wording
of the 85% requirement. If one TV in a home can receive the all the
local digital channels then it qualifies. For cable subscribers as
long as the cable company is carrying the locals their STB will
satisfy that requirement. It wouldn't matter whether the set is
digital or NTSC since the STB will certainly have DVI and composite
outputs. There may be some laggard stations or cable providers but it
provides about 70% compliance with no effort required of the
subscriber.




Richard C. October 1st 03 04:32 PM


"Thumper" wrote in message
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:Then again we are just starting to really get HD programming.

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Speak for yourself. I have been getting HD programming for several years.



Richard C. October 1st 03 04:32 PM


"Thumper" wrote in message
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:Then again we are just starting to really get HD programming.

=====================
Speak for yourself. I have been getting HD programming for several years.




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