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Chris Thomas September 26th 03 04:14 AM

TV viewing backlight?
 
Watching TV in a dark room yields a good picture, but the contrast
between a completely dark room and even a properly detorched TV is
too high to be comfortable. I assume I need some sort of
backlighting on the wall behind the TV. What do people use? I assume
I want something in the 6500K range, which would imply a fluorescent
rather than an incandecent light, but fluorescents don't typically
work with a dimmer, and I'd like an adjustable source.

Suggestions?

Buzzer September 26th 03 07:18 AM

On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 19:14:11 -0700, Chris Thomas
wrote:

Watching TV in a dark room yields a good picture, but the contrast
between a completely dark room and even a properly detorched TV is
too high to be comfortable. I assume I need some sort of
backlighting on the wall behind the TV. What do people use? I assume
I want something in the 6500K range, which would imply a fluorescent
rather than an incandecent light, but fluorescents don't typically
work with a dimmer, and I'd like an adjustable source.

Suggestions?


Not a backlight, but I use a 3-way torchier fluorescent floor lamp by
my chair set on the low positon. Shines off a white slanted ceiling
with fake beams.

Buzzer September 26th 03 07:18 AM

On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 19:14:11 -0700, Chris Thomas
wrote:

Watching TV in a dark room yields a good picture, but the contrast
between a completely dark room and even a properly detorched TV is
too high to be comfortable. I assume I need some sort of
backlighting on the wall behind the TV. What do people use? I assume
I want something in the 6500K range, which would imply a fluorescent
rather than an incandecent light, but fluorescents don't typically
work with a dimmer, and I'd like an adjustable source.

Suggestions?


Not a backlight, but I use a 3-way torchier fluorescent floor lamp by
my chair set on the low positon. Shines off a white slanted ceiling
with fake beams.

hasan schiers September 26th 03 06:57 PM

I use a spotlight (75w or so) with a reflector, pointing up and back at the
beige colored painted wall behind the TV. This indirect lighting works very
well for me, and I see no need for a special color temp bulb. Just get some
indirect backlighting and I'm sure you will do fine. Mine is just a cheap
fixture that is circular, made to accept little spotlight bulbs. Angling it
up on the wall, works well.

....hasan, N0AN
"Chris Thomas" wrote in message
m...
Watching TV in a dark room yields a good picture, but the contrast
between a completely dark room and even a properly detorched TV is
too high to be comfortable. I assume I need some sort of
backlighting on the wall behind the TV. What do people use? I assume
I want something in the 6500K range, which would imply a fluorescent
rather than an incandecent light, but fluorescents don't typically
work with a dimmer, and I'd like an adjustable source.

Suggestions?




hasan schiers September 26th 03 06:57 PM

I use a spotlight (75w or so) with a reflector, pointing up and back at the
beige colored painted wall behind the TV. This indirect lighting works very
well for me, and I see no need for a special color temp bulb. Just get some
indirect backlighting and I'm sure you will do fine. Mine is just a cheap
fixture that is circular, made to accept little spotlight bulbs. Angling it
up on the wall, works well.

....hasan, N0AN
"Chris Thomas" wrote in message
m...
Watching TV in a dark room yields a good picture, but the contrast
between a completely dark room and even a properly detorched TV is
too high to be comfortable. I assume I need some sort of
backlighting on the wall behind the TV. What do people use? I assume
I want something in the 6500K range, which would imply a fluorescent
rather than an incandecent light, but fluorescents don't typically
work with a dimmer, and I'd like an adjustable source.

Suggestions?




Peter Parker September 26th 03 09:32 PM

On 9/25/2003 9:14 PM, Chris Thomas pondered briefly and then wrote:

Watching TV in a dark room yields a good picture, but the contrast
between a completely dark room and even a properly detorched TV is
too high to be comfortable. I assume I need some sort of
backlighting on the wall behind the TV. What do people use? I assume
I want something in the 6500K range, which would imply a fluorescent
rather than an incandecent light, but fluorescents don't typically
work with a dimmer, and I'd like an adjustable source.

Suggestions?


I use an Ideal-Lume. There's a good thread about it over on the Home
Theater Spot
[http://www.hometheaterspot.com/htsth...00#Post429484]

It works GREAT in my application. Really does make difference and will
ease the eye strain. There are dimmer filters that are available too.

--
Peter Parker


Peter Parker September 26th 03 09:32 PM

On 9/25/2003 9:14 PM, Chris Thomas pondered briefly and then wrote:

Watching TV in a dark room yields a good picture, but the contrast
between a completely dark room and even a properly detorched TV is
too high to be comfortable. I assume I need some sort of
backlighting on the wall behind the TV. What do people use? I assume
I want something in the 6500K range, which would imply a fluorescent
rather than an incandecent light, but fluorescents don't typically
work with a dimmer, and I'd like an adjustable source.

Suggestions?


I use an Ideal-Lume. There's a good thread about it over on the Home
Theater Spot
[http://www.hometheaterspot.com/htsth...00#Post429484]

It works GREAT in my application. Really does make difference and will
ease the eye strain. There are dimmer filters that are available too.

--
Peter Parker


commander September 26th 03 11:16 PM

I went to lowe's and got a low voltage three light kit, and a IR
remote control dimmer. I have the lights pointed up to the ceiling.
You can mount the rail on the wall. I believe I have 6500K blub in
don't remember now. It's not cheap. I think the remote and dimmer was
over $50. and the light were around 60 W/O bulbs. Works well for me.
The wife likes lot's of light, with the remote I can make her happy
till she leaves "sub woofer" :)

On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 19:14:11 -0700, Chris Thomas
wrote:

Watching TV in a dark room yields a good picture, but the contrast
between a completely dark room and even a properly detorched TV is
too high to be comfortable. I assume I need some sort of
backlighting on the wall behind the TV. What do people use? I assume
I want something in the 6500K range, which would imply a fluorescent
rather than an incandecent light, but fluorescents don't typically
work with a dimmer, and I'd like an adjustable source.

Suggestions?



commander September 26th 03 11:16 PM

I went to lowe's and got a low voltage three light kit, and a IR
remote control dimmer. I have the lights pointed up to the ceiling.
You can mount the rail on the wall. I believe I have 6500K blub in
don't remember now. It's not cheap. I think the remote and dimmer was
over $50. and the light were around 60 W/O bulbs. Works well for me.
The wife likes lot's of light, with the remote I can make her happy
till she leaves "sub woofer" :)

On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 19:14:11 -0700, Chris Thomas
wrote:

Watching TV in a dark room yields a good picture, but the contrast
between a completely dark room and even a properly detorched TV is
too high to be comfortable. I assume I need some sort of
backlighting on the wall behind the TV. What do people use? I assume
I want something in the 6500K range, which would imply a fluorescent
rather than an incandecent light, but fluorescents don't typically
work with a dimmer, and I'd like an adjustable source.

Suggestions?



Chris Thomas September 27th 03 09:40 PM

In article ,
says...
I use a spotlight (75w or so) with a reflector, pointing up and back at the
beige colored painted wall behind the TV. This indirect lighting works very
well for me, and I see no need for a special color temp bulb. ...


While it is true that just about any color backlight will reduce
eyestrain compared to viewing in a dark room, it is also true that
the color temperature of the backlight will affect the preceived
colors of the screen image, due to the way the human eye works. The
more the background differs from a 6500K gray, the larger the effct.
A fluorescent light reflecting off a matte off-white/gray wall is the
best situation. 6500K fluorescents are available (
http://www.cinemaquestinc.com/ )

But incandescent off beige is surely better than dark, even if it is
2500-3000K.

/Chris

Chris Thomas September 27th 03 09:40 PM

In article ,
says...
I use a spotlight (75w or so) with a reflector, pointing up and back at the
beige colored painted wall behind the TV. This indirect lighting works very
well for me, and I see no need for a special color temp bulb. ...


While it is true that just about any color backlight will reduce
eyestrain compared to viewing in a dark room, it is also true that
the color temperature of the backlight will affect the preceived
colors of the screen image, due to the way the human eye works. The
more the background differs from a 6500K gray, the larger the effct.
A fluorescent light reflecting off a matte off-white/gray wall is the
best situation. 6500K fluorescents are available (
http://www.cinemaquestinc.com/ )

But incandescent off beige is surely better than dark, even if it is
2500-3000K.

/Chris

Michael September 28th 03 06:29 AM

I bought a 18inch 20w flourescent light at Home Depot and used velcro
to secure the fixture to the back of my tv; so that the light faces
the wall.

Inexpensive and works well for me.


Chris Thomas wrote in message om...
Watching TV in a dark room yields a good picture, but the contrast
between a completely dark room and even a properly detorched TV is
too high to be comfortable. I assume I need some sort of
backlighting on the wall behind the TV. What do people use? I assume
I want something in the 6500K range, which would imply a fluorescent
rather than an incandecent light, but fluorescents don't typically
work with a dimmer, and I'd like an adjustable source.

Suggestions?


Michael September 28th 03 06:29 AM

I bought a 18inch 20w flourescent light at Home Depot and used velcro
to secure the fixture to the back of my tv; so that the light faces
the wall.

Inexpensive and works well for me.


Chris Thomas wrote in message om...
Watching TV in a dark room yields a good picture, but the contrast
between a completely dark room and even a properly detorched TV is
too high to be comfortable. I assume I need some sort of
backlighting on the wall behind the TV. What do people use? I assume
I want something in the 6500K range, which would imply a fluorescent
rather than an incandecent light, but fluorescents don't typically
work with a dimmer, and I'd like an adjustable source.

Suggestions?


Leonard Caillouet September 28th 03 02:58 PM


"Chris Thomas" wrote in message
m...
In article ,
says...
I use a spotlight (75w or so) with a reflector, pointing up and back at

the
beige colored painted wall behind the TV. This indirect lighting works

very
well for me, and I see no need for a special color temp bulb. ...


While it is true that just about any color backlight will reduce
eyestrain compared to viewing in a dark room, it is also true that
the color temperature of the backlight will affect the preceived
colors of the screen image, due to the way the human eye works. The
more the background differs from a 6500K gray, the larger the effct.
A fluorescent light reflecting off a matte off-white/gray wall is the
best situation. 6500K fluorescents are available (
http://www.cinemaquestinc.com/ )

This is very true, but remember, the human visual system is highly adaptive.
The perceptual system accommodates subtle differences quite well and adapts
to a range of color temperatures so that whites "seem" white even when they
are not. The versatility of the human visual system works both ways. The
bottom line is, try to keep things correct if possible, but if your system
looks good to you don't think you have to completely redo your home.

Also see the site www.smpte.org for Recommended Practice Document #166,
IIRC.

Leonard Caillouet



Leonard Caillouet September 28th 03 02:58 PM


"Chris Thomas" wrote in message
m...
In article ,
says...
I use a spotlight (75w or so) with a reflector, pointing up and back at

the
beige colored painted wall behind the TV. This indirect lighting works

very
well for me, and I see no need for a special color temp bulb. ...


While it is true that just about any color backlight will reduce
eyestrain compared to viewing in a dark room, it is also true that
the color temperature of the backlight will affect the preceived
colors of the screen image, due to the way the human eye works. The
more the background differs from a 6500K gray, the larger the effct.
A fluorescent light reflecting off a matte off-white/gray wall is the
best situation. 6500K fluorescents are available (
http://www.cinemaquestinc.com/ )

This is very true, but remember, the human visual system is highly adaptive.
The perceptual system accommodates subtle differences quite well and adapts
to a range of color temperatures so that whites "seem" white even when they
are not. The versatility of the human visual system works both ways. The
bottom line is, try to keep things correct if possible, but if your system
looks good to you don't think you have to completely redo your home.

Also see the site www.smpte.org for Recommended Practice Document #166,
IIRC.

Leonard Caillouet




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