The 1080p Input Question
 

Novice here has another question. On the 1080p sets out there, do I
understand correctly that even though they upconvert a signal to 1080p
and will take the signal of 1080p if it came from OTA or cable, that:

1. There is no 1080p OTA or Cable or Satellite HDTV signal on earth
for them to take.
2. Almost all of the televisions right now that say they are 1080p
have no inputs that are 1080p.


It is number two that I am asking about. I understand there is no
bandwidth, no tv, no programming, etc. for number one. But if these
televisions have no input for 1080p, then what is the point? Simply
that they can display 1080i upconverted to 1080p? With no possibility
of actually using sources that are native 1080p such as BluRay, HD-DVD,
or the Playstation 3? Supposedly there are about two sets out there
that have these inputs. I hate to be negative here, but isn't this
just a marketing ploy and bordering on a misrepresentation or playing
on our ignorance? There is already and information overload in the
whole HDTV thing...Thanks. I can't imaging paying $4000 for a
television that is 1080p only to discover I can't use it properly.

The 1080p Input Question
 

You are correct.

The only LCD that will take a 1080p input is the Sharp that has the
outboard tuner and switcher. You disconnect it and feed your 1080p in
it's place. Not very useful, but it works.

All the DLPs are pseudo 1080p. Better called 576p.

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Novice here has another question. On the 1080p sets out there, do I
understand correctly that even though they upconvert a signal to 1080p
and will take the signal of 1080p if it came from OTA or cable, that:

1. There is no 1080p OTA or Cable or Satellite HDTV signal on earth
for them to take.
2. Almost all of the televisions right now that say they are 1080p
have no inputs that are 1080p.


It is number two that I am asking about. I understand there is no
bandwidth, no tv, no programming, etc. for number one. But if these
televisions have no input for 1080p, then what is the point? Simply
that they can display 1080i upconverted to 1080p? With no possibility
of actually using sources that are native 1080p such as BluRay, HD-DVD,
or the Playstation 3? Supposedly there are about two sets out there
that have these inputs. I hate to be negative here, but isn't this
just a marketing ploy and bordering on a misrepresentation or playing
on our ignorance? There is already and information overload in the
whole HDTV thing...Thanks. I can't imaging paying $4000 for a
television that is 1080p only to discover I can't use it properly.

The 1080p Input Question
 

The 1080p Input Question
 

Well, I am trying not to obsess, but I am looking at 60" sets. I find
the marketing dishonest...sort of.

The 1080p Input Question
 

afiggatt ) wrote in alt.tv.tech.hdtv:
From what I have read, many of the so-called 1080p HDTVs can NOT
accept a 1080p signal, except possibly a 1080p24 or p30 rate and this is
unclear, through the HDMI port. Yes, there are no 1080p sources
available at the moment except perhaps a HT PC setup.

The Sony LCoS sets can handle 1920x1080/60p through the VGA port for
sure, and the specs appear to indicate that the HDMI ports also handle
it. There is no indication of whether the component video inputs can deal
with it.

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Jeff Rife |
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The 1080p Input Question
 

What about a VGA to HDMI conversion? No sound but you can use audio
for that. Would that work? Do you consider that a "hack"? I feel
like it is.

The 1080p Input Question
 

wrote:

What about a VGA to HDMI conversion? No sound but you can use audio
for that. Would that work? Do you consider that a "hack"? I feel
like it is.

VGA is analog. HDMI is a digital interface which is effectively a
superset of DVI-D (see www.hdmi.org for basic info). Not a easy "hack"
at all.

Alan F

The 1080p Input Question
 

Then one might regret very much if they buy a "1080p" television
because they will never be able to truly use it. It has not input for
it.

The 1080p Input Question
 

1. There is no 1080p OTA or Cable or Satellite HDTV signal on earth
for them to take.
2. Almost all of the televisions right now that say they are 1080p
have no inputs that are 1080p.

I thought VGA supports any resolutions your source and monitor can support
and agree on. That's probably why all the 1080p sets I looked at have VGA
inputs. I think DVI and HDMI should be able to do that too, as long as you
can find a source. Currently 1080p sources are hard to find. Of course,
computer is one of them.

The 1080p Input Question
 

I understand the Sony can take 1080p at the 60 frame rate through the HDMI.
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"Jeff Rife" wrote in message
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afiggatt ) wrote in alt.tv.tech.hdtv:
From what I have read, many of the so-called 1080p HDTVs can NOT
accept a 1080p signal, except possibly a 1080p24 or p30 rate and this is
unclear, through the HDMI port. Yes, there are no 1080p sources
available at the moment except perhaps a HT PC setup.

The Sony LCoS sets can handle 1920x1080/60p through the VGA port for
sure, and the specs appear to indicate that the HDMI ports also handle
it. There is no indication of whether the component video inputs can deal
with it.

--
Jeff Rife |
| http://www.nabs.net/Cartoons/RhymesW...ge/BigDogs.gif

The 1080p Input Question
 

wrote in message
oups.com...
Then one might regret very much if they buy a "1080p" television
because they will never be able to truly use it. It has not input for
it.


If a 1080i 60 source displays better on a new 1080p 60 display then what is
the difference?

Richard.

The 1080p Input Question
 

wrote in message
ups.com...
Well, I am trying not to obsess, but I am looking at 60" sets. I find
the marketing dishonest...sort of.

If you only need to go to 60", get the Hewlett Packard set. It takes an
external 1080p input via HDMI right now.

The 1080p Input Question
 

In article ,
"Richard" wrote:

wrote in message
oups.com...
Then one might regret very much if they buy a "1080p" television
because they will never be able to truly use it. It has not input for
it.


If a 1080i 60 source displays better on a new 1080p 60 display then what is
the difference?

Richard.

Well you would think the models which come out next year (or shown in
January at the CES) will show advances in inputs and more refinements to
1080p performance.

That is why it may not yet be time to plunk down $5k on the SXRDs yet.
Good chance next year's model will have 1080p inputs and other
enhancements including better performance.

In 2006, we'll get the first taste of Blu-Ray and HD-DVD, or 1080p
content. But it's in 2007 that the content should really flow.

Meanwhile SED sets should be in second generation.