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DAB sounds worse than FM November 20th 05 10:02 PM

C4 win new Freeview slot
 
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/ar...878856,00.html

and five are going to add 2 new channels without removing any Top-Up TV
channels! Looks like we're going to have 1 Mbps TV channels at the rate
we're going......


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Conor November 21st 05 12:25 AM

C4 win new Freeview slot
 
In article , ray says...

I noticed Freeview stations are now repeating what was on last year - the
loop seems to have started again. I could almost predict which programmes
would be on as they were in the same order last year.

ROFL..same as Sky then but £40 cheaper than I'm paying.


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Conor

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Star Trek? Good Lord!" - Patrick Stewart, Extras.

Max Demian November 21st 05 12:29 AM

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"DAB sounds worse than FM" wrote in message
...
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/ar...878856,00.html


"At first Channel 4 is expected to use the Freeview slot to launch More4+1"

I fail to see the commercial value of these +1 channels on a medium as short
of bandwidth (and expensive per channel) as DTT.

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Max Demian



dowager November 21st 05 01:00 AM

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DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/ar...878856,00.html

and five are going to add 2 new channels without removing any Top-Up
TV channels! Looks like we're going to have 1 Mbps TV channels at the
rate we're going......


The Times article makes no mention of retaining, or otherwise, the current
number of Top Up streams. The phrasing is that the new channels will be
using 'part of Top Up TV's own Freeview capacity'.

That rather seems to imply to me that, if anything, Top Up's broadcasting
hours and / or number of streams could be reduced to accomodate the new
channels. But that would be unsubstantiated speculation on my part: Rather
like your original post.



DAB sounds worse than FM November 21st 05 11:10 AM

C4 win new Freeview slot
 
ray wrote:
"DAB sounds worse than FM" wrote in message
...
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/ar...878856,00.html

and five are going to add 2 new channels without removing any Top-Up
TV channels! Looks like we're going to have 1 Mbps TV channels at
the rate we're going......


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Steve -


The same will happen to TV s to what happened to DABradio. Quality is
reduced for profit. The more stations crammed in, the more income
and lower quality. Look at the state DABradio is in now - it sounds
crap compared to FM stereo.



You're preaching to the converted, pal!

BTW, the person who's now in charge of "regulating" picture quality at
Ofcom is the same person that set the minimum bit rate levels for DAB in
1998! Mr Mark Thomas, Head of Broadcasting Technical Policy at Ofcom,
who's in charge of "regulating" "quality" of both digital radio and
digital TV, and the ex-Director of "Engineering" at the Radio Authority.



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Steve - www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - Digital Radio News & Info

Find the cheapest Freeview & DAB prices:
http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/fr..._receivers.htm
http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/dab_radios.htm



sPoNiX November 21st 05 11:17 AM

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On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 10:10:17 GMT, "DAB sounds worse than FM"
wrote:

The same will happen to TV s to what happened to DABradio. Quality is
reduced for profit. The more stations crammed in, the more income
and lower quality. Look at the state DABradio is in now - it sounds
crap compared to FM stereo.


You're preaching to the converted, pal!


DRM will be here soon..

http://www.drm.org/

sponix


DAB sounds worse than FM November 21st 05 12:12 PM

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dowager wrote:
DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/ar...878856,00.html

and five are going to add 2 new channels without removing any Top-Up
TV channels! Looks like we're going to have 1 Mbps TV channels at the
rate we're going......


The Times article makes no mention of retaining, or otherwise, the
current number of Top Up streams. The phrasing is that the new
channels will be using 'part of Top Up TV's own Freeview capacity'.



I read this originally:

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds26370.html

and admittedly I did mis-interpret it. But see below.


That rather seems to imply to me that, if anything, Top Up's
broadcasting hours and / or number of streams could be reduced to
accomodate the new channels. But that would be unsubstantiated
speculation on my part: Rather like your original post.




I think the reason I thought what I did was simply that Top-Up TV only
has 5 streams, so reducing the number of streams to say 4 or 3 would
significantly alter Top-Up TV's proposition, and I think it far more
likely that Top-Up TV simply shaves a little bit of bandwidth from each
of its 5 streams to allow five to launch a new channel.


--
Steve - www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - Digital Radio News & Info

Find the cheapest Freeview & DAB prices:
http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/fr..._receivers.htm
http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/dab_radios.htm



Agamemnon November 21st 05 05:46 PM

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"DAB sounds worse than FM" wrote in message
...
dowager wrote:
DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/ar...878856,00.html

and five are going to add 2 new channels without removing any Top-Up
TV channels! Looks like we're going to have 1 Mbps TV channels at the
rate we're going......


The Times article makes no mention of retaining, or otherwise, the
current number of Top Up streams. The phrasing is that the new
channels will be using 'part of Top Up TV's own Freeview capacity'.



I read this originally:

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds26370.html

and admittedly I did mis-interpret it. But see below.


That rather seems to imply to me that, if anything, Top Up's
broadcasting hours and / or number of streams could be reduced to
accomodate the new channels. But that would be unsubstantiated
speculation on my part: Rather like your original post.




I think the reason I thought what I did was simply that Top-Up TV only has
5 streams, so reducing the number of streams to say 4 or 3 would
significantly alter Top-Up TV's proposition, and I think it far more
likely that Top-Up TV simply shaves a little bit of bandwidth from each of
its 5 streams to allow five to launch a new channel.


Why don't they just kick off the price conning channels like bidup,
pricedrop, QVC and Ideal World and the game conning channel that now
occupies Channel 4's old Big Brother stream.


Aztech November 21st 05 06:15 PM

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"Agamemnon" wrote in message

Why don't they just kick off the price conning channels like bidup,
pricedrop, QVC and Ideal World and the game conning channel that now
occupies Channel 4's old Big Brother stream.


Err, because in the real world there are legal niceties like contracts and
due process. When their contracts come up for renewal no doubt some of the
dross will be costed off the platform.



AD C November 21st 05 06:59 PM

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sPoNiX wrote:

You're preaching to the converted, pal!



DRM will be here soon..

http://www.drm.org/


Which means buying more equipment, we can't keep on buying stuff, just
because someone mucked up in the first place?


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