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"Ad C" wrote in message
k...
In article
s.net,
LID says...

Why shouldn't we though, at least with true publicly funded PBS
there
is a chance that things will change... It's only because of the
'rating war' that we are in this situation, I also suspect that
we
are also starting to come out of that rut, remember that it takes
time for new programmes to come on air.

Nothing have chnaged in the last 15 years, so it is certainly is
going
to change now.


The BBc knows it got a licence to waste money and waste they do.

Change your record and take your head out of your rear end FFS.

Or are you just one of those who morn the passing of 'Dusty Bin'?...

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"Ad C" wrote in message
k...
In article
s.net,
LID says...

It is just a shame we don't get good programmes for the money
then.



We might if they forgot about the phoney 'ratings war', leave the
dross and crap to the commercial sector...

I agree and stop wasting money on stupid things.
Maybe they should stop employing so many people that do n nothing
all
day

Do tell more, just who are these workless people and were are they
employed?...

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Tiny Tim wrote:

Can you recommend a
site with a bit more info about this sort of setup?

A search for Dragon Cam should provide the info needed. It's not
something I follow myself.


If Sky did do some
fiddling what might I end up still being able to view - a bunch of
foreign junk only, FTA/FTV or just FTV stuff?

If Sky cared to alter their encryption technique slightly you would
probably no longer be able to receive any UK encrypted channels. UK
FTA would not be affected.

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"spiney" wrote in message
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"Freesat"?

Sky are canny, they have an effective monopoly, and "pitch" prices at
whatever they believe will maximise revenue.

Why is pitch in inverted commas?

What you describe is true of firms which seek to maximise revenues. Some
others attempt to maximise profits, or maximise sales volumes.


Most people can't self-install, and even buying 2nd hand equipment
often might not leave too much change from £150, after getting a card
for ITV (and of course, in some places satellite is the only viable tv
reception system!).

After which, once you've got a receiver and card, it's so easy to
upgrade to subscription channels, just needs a phone call .........

As Dave Fawthrop says, ITV wil be going actually free to air
(unencrypted), then there should be some competition, forcing prices
down.

Unfortunately, good tv progs cost money to make, and that's why we
should properly fund public service broadcasting, despite this being a
"tax".

No, it does follow that PSB needs taxpayer's money for TV to have good
programmes. Advertising and subscriptions are better alternatives than do
not force people to fund PSB.


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On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 09:12:31 +0200, Jomtien wrote:

Tiny Tim wrote:

Can you recommend a
site with a bit more info about this sort of setup?

A search for Dragon Cam should provide the info needed. It's not
something I follow myself.

OK, thanks.

If Sky did do some
fiddling what might I end up still being able to view - a bunch of
foreign junk only, FTA/FTV or just FTV stuff?

If Sky cared to alter their encryption technique slightly you would
probably no longer be able to receive any UK encrypted channels. UK
FTA would not be affected.

But is the decoding algorithm taken care of by the hardware or the
card? I don't mind continuing to pay my Sky subscription - I just want
to go straight from the MPEG data stream to disk without loads of
analogue conversions in between. If the encryption changes would
another card get me out of any hole or would I be looking for new
hardware?

Thanks,
Tim.

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Reading around your grammar

Not my grammar, but the grammar of English.

(I take it English is not your first
language),

You 'take' it wrongly.

you fail to offer any arguments as to why subscription is
better than direct funding. Stating something does not make it so.

Correct! Subscription is better, as I wrote, since it does not force
payments of taxes by those not interested in that TV channel.


A subscription service is the complete opposite to PSB.

So?


Regarding advertising, that by definition means ratings, ratings and
ratings.

I know, and rightly so.


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"John Porcella" wrote in message
...


Correct! Subscription is better, as I wrote, since it does not force
payments of taxes by those not interested in that TV channel.

I would'nt say so looking at Sky's packages.... Suppose people don't want
Sky One and want UK Gold or vice-versa, We still end up paying for both.

Actually, you could say ALL Sky subscriptions are taxes due to the fact the
channels advertise to make their income (and this is third rate programming
with DOGS, Red dots,*Coming soon* etc)

Always Add to Sky Advert Sky, What do you want to watch? "Something
without Dogs,Adverts and on-screen Graffitti" and err I bet they could'nt
offer that :-/

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Tiny Tim wrote:

If Sky cared to alter their encryption technique slightly you would
probably no longer be able to receive any UK encrypted channels. UK
FTA would not be affected.

But is the decoding algorithm taken care of by the hardware or the
card? I don't mind continuing to pay my Sky subscription - ......
If the encryption changes would
another card get me out of any hole or would I be looking for new
hardware?

Dragon Cams only emulate the decryption module in a Sky box: they
still need an official card. Such a card will always be valid but if
Sky choose to make some alteration to the decryption process your
unofficial CAM could stop working with the card (this would have no
effect at all on regular Sky digibox users). The makers of these CAMs
have already stated that they will not necessarily update the firmware
to counter such changes.


I just want
to go straight from the MPEG data stream to disk without loads of
analogue conversions in between.

Sky's most likely reason for wanting to disable these CAMs would be to
prevent precisely that.

--
Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these.
The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/7rm2m
UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
BBC reception questions? ; http://www.astra2d.com/
Fed up with on-screen logos? : http://logofreetv.org/
----
Only the truth as I see it.
No monies return'd. ;-)

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On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 08:18:35 +0200, Jomtien wrote:

Tiny Tim wrote:

If Sky cared to alter their encryption technique slightly you would
probably no longer be able to receive any UK encrypted channels. UK
FTA would not be affected.

But is the decoding algorithm taken care of by the hardware or the
card? I don't mind continuing to pay my Sky subscription - ......
If the encryption changes would
another card get me out of any hole or would I be looking for new
hardware?

Dragon Cams only emulate the decryption module in a Sky box: they
still need an official card. Such a card will always be valid but if
Sky choose to make some alteration to the decryption process your
unofficial CAM could stop working with the card (this would have no
effect at all on regular Sky digibox users). The makers of these CAMs
have already stated that they will not necessarily update the firmware
to counter such changes.


I just want
to go straight from the MPEG data stream to disk without loads of
analogue conversions in between.

Sky's most likely reason for wanting to disable these CAMs would be to
prevent precisely that.

Thanks for the replies, Jomtien. It's certainly something to think
about. I am very tempted to take a chance and go for this setup.

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