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Rod L October 21st 05 05:07 PM

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"Adrian" wrote in message
om...
John Patrick wrote:
I believe there's currently a Sky CAM, which will accept Sky cards in
CI slot satellite receivers.


I think you believe wrong


No, he's right, it's called the Dragon Cam.

I think the latest firmware has removed the NDS bit.



Tiny Tim October 21st 05 05:20 PM

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On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 15:00:00 +0100, "Adrian" wrote:

John Patrick wrote:
I believe there's currently a Sky CAM, which will accept Sky cards in
CI slot satellite receivers.


I think you believe wrong


No, he's right, it's called the Dragon Cam.


Being a long term Sky Digital subscriber I'm a bit dopey when it comes
to the rest of the satellite market, so please bear with me....

I have a home built Windows Media Center PC which records from my Sky
digibox using a Scart-composite video connection into my analogue
capture card. Obviously my recorded picture quality is not as good as
a direct RGB connection from the digibox to the TV. But, if I bought a
DVB-S card for my PC and stuck in a Dragon Cam and my Sky card into
that, am I likely to see anything useful and be able to record the
original MPEG2 data without any extra wires or signal conversion?

Is there a good site I can view to see which channels I might get, if
the encypted (or all) Sky digital channels will not be available? If
the CAM and Sky card won't get me Sky channels is there any point in
getting the CAM at all. My viewing interests are mainstream English
speaking entertainment (comedy, dramas, documentaries, sci--fi and
films) - not sport or foreign stuff.

I understand MCE is not compatible with DVB-S cards but I'm quite
happy to run something else on Win XP if I can get much improved
picture quality and more reliable channel changing (no more IR blaster
etc.).

Thanks,
Tim.

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Ad C October 21st 05 08:05 PM

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In article . com,
says...


Unfortunately, good tv progs cost money to make, and that's why we
should properly fund public service broadcasting, despite this being a
"tax".

It is just a shame we don't get good programmes for the money then.



Dave Fawthrop October 21st 05 08:18 PM

Freesat from Sky
 
On 21 Oct 2005 06:16:23 -0700, wrote:

|
| Dave Fawthrop wrote:
| On 21 Oct 2005 04:01:50 -0700,
wrote:
|
| | Just wondered if anyone at all had ordered this. It seems like a
| | deliberate rip-off.
| |
| | £150 for freesat, which doesn't even give more4, or free Sky
| | installation, plus 3 months at £7.50, and then 9 @ £15, with 2 of
| | their mixes, total cost £157.50, after which you are free to cancel.
| |
| | Has anyone actually ordered the £150 offer, as it doesn't look at all
| | attractive.
|
| You do not have to pay GBP150 to get freesatfromsky you need only spend
| GBP20 see sig.
|
| Well that's clearly not true. £20 gets you a card, which you still
| need to stick in a skybox, which needs to be connected to a satellite
| dish.

Which was explicitly stated in the sig repeated below.

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What will I receive "£20 ... one Viewing Card". You will also need
$ky box and dish. List of Channels at http://www.wickonline.com/fta.htm

:::Jerry:::: October 21st 05 10:07 PM

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"Ad C" wrote in message
...
In article . com,
says...


Unfortunately, good tv progs cost money to make, and that's why

we
should properly fund public service broadcasting, despite this

being a
"tax".

It is just a shame we don't get good programmes for the money then.



We might if they forgot about the phoney 'ratings war', leave the
dross and crap to the commercial sector...



Jomtien October 22nd 05 09:26 AM

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Tiny Tim wrote:

But, if I bought a
DVB-S card for my PC and stuck in a Dragon Cam and my Sky card into
that, am I likely to see anything useful and be able to record the
original MPEG2 data without any extra wires or signal conversion?


Currently you can. There is absolutely no guarantee that this will
work tomorrow though.

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Tiny Tim October 22nd 05 11:10 AM

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On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 09:26:21 +0200, Jomtien wrote:

Tiny Tim wrote:

But, if I bought a
DVB-S card for my PC and stuck in a Dragon Cam and my Sky card into
that, am I likely to see anything useful and be able to record the
original MPEG2 data without any extra wires or signal conversion?


Currently you can. There is absolutely no guarantee that this will
work tomorrow though.


Sounds almost tempting enough to give it a go. Can you recommend a
site with a bit more info about this sort of setup? If Sky did do some
fiddling what might I end up still being able to view - a bunch of
foreign junk only, FTA/FTV or just FTV stuff? I think the DVB-S card
and CAM will cost over £120 so I don't want to spend that just for an
"experiment".

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:::Jerry:::: October 22nd 05 11:43 AM

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"Noel" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 21:07:02 +0100, ":::Jerry::::"
wrote:


We might if they forgot about the phoney 'ratings war', leave the
dross and crap to the commercial sector...


Until then, why should the TV owning public be expected to

subsidise
the production of such dross and crap (inevitably yet another
'reality' programme) through the payment of an annual TV Tax?


Why shouldn't we though, at least with true publicly funded PBS there
is a chance that things will change... It's only because of the
'rating war' that we are in this situation, I also suspect that we
are also starting to come out of that rut, remember that it takes
time for new programmes to come on air.



Ad C October 22nd 05 02:21 PM

Freesat from Sky
 
In article s.net,
LID says...

It is just a shame we don't get good programmes for the money then.



We might if they forgot about the phoney 'ratings war', leave the
dross and crap to the commercial sector...

I agree and stop wasting money on stupid things.
Maybe they should stop employing so many people that do n nothing all
day

Ad C October 22nd 05 02:22 PM

Freesat from Sky
 
In article s.net,
LID says...

Why shouldn't we though, at least with true publicly funded PBS there
is a chance that things will change... It's only because of the
'rating war' that we are in this situation, I also suspect that we
are also starting to come out of that rut, remember that it takes
time for new programmes to come on air.

Nothing have chnaged in the last 15 years, so it is certainly is going
to change now.


The BBc knows it got a licence to waste money and waste they do.


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