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AJM October 18th 05 09:58 PM

New Freeview Channel Numbers
 
I retuned this evening and thought at first that I had lost BBC News 24.
However, after working my way through all the channels I found it had moved
from Channel 40 to Channel 80. For my personal reference I have made a list
of the channels as they are available wef 18th October, 2005. I have copied
it below as it may prove useful to others receiving transmissions from Black
Hill in Central Scotland.


AJM

FREEVIEW CHANNELS

CENTRAL SCOTLAND



1 BBC 1 Scotland

2 BBC 2 Scotland

3 STV

4 Channel 4

5 Five

6 ITV 2

7 BBC 3

8 Tele G

9 BBC 4

10 ITV 3

11 Sky Travel

12 UKTV History

13 More 4

14 E 4

15 abc 1

16 QVC

17 UKTV Gold

18 The HITS

19 UKTV Bright Ideas

20 Ftn

21 TMF

22 Ideal World

23 Bid TV

24 Price-dropTV

25 TCM

26 UKTV Style

27 Discovery

28 Discovery R Time

29 UKTV Food

32 E4 + 1

33 Eurosport UK

34 Setanta Sports

36 Extraview

37 Quiz Call

38 Men & Motors

55 Premier Christian Radio

56 3c

57 Talksport

58 Kerrang

59 MOJO

60 BBC Radio nan Gaidheal

61 BBC Radio Scotland

62 Smooth FM

63 oneworld

64 Q

65 Magic

66 heat

67 Kiss

68 Smash Hits

69 The Hits Radio

70 CBBC Channel

71 Cbeebies

72 Cartoon Nwk

73 Boomerang

74 Toonami

75 BBC World Service

76 BBC Asian Net

77 BBC 7

78 BBC 6 Music

79 BBC Five Live Sports Extra

80 BBC News 24

81 ITV News

82 Sky News

83 Sky Sports News

84 Bloomberg

85 BBC Parliament

86 BBC Radio Five Live

87 Community

88 Teachers' TV

89 BBC Radio 4

90 BBC Radio 3

91 BBC Radio 2

92 1 Extra BBC

93 BBC Radio 1

94 303

95 302

96 301

97 Television X

98 Red Hot

99 4TVinteractive



Dickie Mint October 18th 05 10:17 PM

New Freeview Channel Numbers
 
AJM wrote:
I retuned this evening and thought at first that I had lost BBC News 24.
However, after working my way through all the channels I found it had moved
from Channel 40 to Channel 80. For my personal reference I have made a list
of the channels as they are available wef 18th October, 2005. I have copied
it below as it may prove useful to others receiving transmissions from Black
Hill in Central Scotland.


snip

Where have you been ?! :-) Mind you there's been little discussion of
this on usenet. Basically they've reworked the Logical Channel Numbers
(LCN) to be three figure to allow for more genres.

News on :

http://www.freeview.co.uk/channelcha...channelchanges


Much talk on Digital spy :

http://forum.digitalspy.co.uk/board/...d.php?t=291680




Alan October 19th 05 12:08 AM

New Freeview Channel Numbers
 
In message , Dickie Mint
wrote
AJM wrote:
I retuned this evening and thought at first that I had lost BBC News
24. However, after working my way through all the channels I found it
had moved from Channel 40 to Channel 80. For my personal reference I
have made a list of the channels as they are available wef 18th
October, 2005. I have copied it below as it may prove useful to
others receiving transmissions from Black Hill in Central Scotland.


snip

Where have you been ?! :-) Mind you there's been little discussion of
this on usenet.


Who has informed the 4 million Freeview users who don't read this or
other net based forums of the change?
--
Alan


Richard Watkinson October 19th 05 12:14 AM

New Freeview Channel Numbers
 
In message
Patrick Nethercot (ngs) wrote:

Just watched BBC 4 all evening on 10. Are different areas implementing
this at different times?

I can't say but did you do a channel rescan?

Anyway here are*all the new logical channel nummbers:

1 BBC ONE
2 BBC TWO
3 ITV1
4 CH4/SC4
5 five
6 ITV2
7 BBC THREE
8 Ch4(Wales) / Tele G (Scotland)
9 BBC FOUR
10 ITV3
11 Sky Travel
12 UKTV History
13 More 4
14 E4
15 ABC1 not in Wales?
16 QVC
17 UKTV Gold
18 The Hits
19 UKTV Br'tIdeas
20 ftn
21 TMF
22 Ideal World
23 Bid TV
24 Price-Drop TV
25 TCM
26 UKTV Style
27 Discovery
28 DiscoveryRTime
29 UKTV Food

32 E4 + 1
33 Eurosport
34 Setanta Sports
36 Xtraview
37 Quiz Call
38 Men & Motors

70 CBBC
71 Cbeebies
72 Cartoon Network
73 Boomerang
74 Toonami

80 BBC News 24
81 ITV News
82 Sky News
83 Sky Sports News
84 Bloomberg
85 BBC Parliament
86 S4C2
87 Community
88 Teachers' TV

97 Television X
98 Red Hot

100 Teletext
101 Teletext TV Guide
102 Teletext Holidays
103 Teletext Cars
104 Teletext on 4
105 BBCi
106 YooPlay

300 4TV Interactive
301 (BBCi)
302 (BBCi)
303 (BBCi)

700 Radio 1
701 1Xtra
702 Radio 2
703 Radio 3
704 Radio 4
705 R5 Live
706 5l SportsX
707 BBC 6 Music
708 BBC 7
709 Asian Network
710 World Service
711 The Hits Radio
712 Smash Hits!
713 Kiss
714 Heat
715 Magic
716 Q
717 oneword
718 SmoothFM
719 BBC Scotland/Ulster/Wales
720 BBC nGaidheal/Foyle/Cymru
721 Mojo
722 Kerrang!
723 talkSPORT
724 3C
725 Premier


--
Richard Watkinson

Treasurer Sheffield Folk Festival

http://www.sheffieldfolkfestival.org/

A kitten is for life...

[email protected] October 19th 05 12:44 AM

New Freeview Channel Numbers
 
On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 23:14:27 +0100, Richard Watkinson
wrote:

In message
Patrick Nethercot (ngs) wrote:

Just watched BBC 4 all evening on 10. Are different areas implementing
this at different times?

I can't say but did you do a channel rescan?


I too have not got the new channel numbers. Re scanned about 8:00p.m.,
Winter Hill.

--
cerberus

Max Demian October 19th 05 12:44 AM

New Freeview Channel Numbers
 
"Patrick Nethercot (ngs)" wrote in message
...
Just watched BBC 4 all evening on 10. Are different areas implementing
this at different times?


I think they will effectively all stay the same until the next time you do a
rescan. My GDB3 has been unaffected so far.

--
Max Demian



Michael Chare October 19th 05 01:54 AM

New Freeview Channel Numbers
 
wrote in message
...
On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 23:14:27 +0100, Richard Watkinson
wrote:

In message
Patrick Nethercot (ngs) wrote:

Just watched BBC 4 all evening on 10. Are different areas implementing
this at different times?


I can't say but did you do a channel rescan?



I too have not got the new channel numbers. Re scanned about 8:00p.m.,
Winter Hill.


I just scanned the individual muxes and that made no difference. Only after I
did a factory reset, (so losing all setup data) and then scanned the individual
muxes did I get the new numbers (which I never use).

--

Michael Chare



--
cerberus



Stuart Brooks October 19th 05 02:03 AM

New Freeview Channel Numbers
 
Alan wrote:


Who has informed the 4 million Freeview users who don't read this or
other net based forums of the change?


E4 comes up with an MHEG reminder to rescan (though it implies every
bix/IDTV needs to rescan which isn't true)



Richard Watkinson October 19th 05 02:07 AM

New Freeview Channel Numbers
 
In message
Alan wrote:

In message , Dickie Mint
wrote
AJM wrote:
I retuned this evening and thought at first that I had lost BBC News
24. However, after working my way through all the channels I found it
had moved from Channel 40 to Channel 80. For my personal reference I
have made a list of the channels as they are available wef 18th
October, 2005. I have copied it below as it may prove useful to
others receiving transmissions from Black Hill in Central Scotland.


snip

Where have you been ?! :-) Mind you there's been little discussion of
this on usenet.


Who has informed the 4 million Freeview users who don't read this or
other net based forums of the change?


Interesting point.

It has been regularly announced on BBC7 with the reccommendation that
you have a look at page 9991 on BBCi for more information.

I don't know enough about Logical Channel Numbers so I will attempt to
bull**** that digiboxes will continue to pick up the services on all
muxes with the LCN stored in the box until you do a rescan. That was
certainly the case with my Pace Twin but it may depend on the software
within individual boxes.

To the best of my knowledge the LCN is just an identifier carried
within the digital signal for the benefit of the end user. Other codes
within the signal do the real business. This guess might explain why
all behaved as if nothing had changed until I did a rescan.



--
Richard Watkinson

Treasurer Sheffield Folk Festival

http://www.sheffieldfolkfestival.org/

Turn left where the chip shop used to be.

David October 19th 05 06:49 AM

New Freeview Channel Numbers
 

wrote in message
...


I too have not got the new channel numbers. Re scanned about 8:00p.m.,
Winter Hill.

No change to my 2 boxes on Emley Moor.
--
Regards
David

Please reply to News Group



Geoff Pearson October 19th 05 09:51 AM

New Freeview Channel Numbers
 

"Richard Watkinson" wrote in message
...
In message
Alan wrote:

In message , Dickie Mint
wrote
AJM wrote:
I retuned this evening and thought at first that I had lost BBC News
24. However, after working my way through all the channels I found it
had moved from Channel 40 to Channel 80. For my personal reference I
have made a list of the channels as they are available wef 18th
October, 2005. I have copied it below as it may prove useful to
others receiving transmissions from Black Hill in Central Scotland.

snip

Where have you been ?! :-) Mind you there's been little discussion of
this on usenet.


Who has informed the 4 million Freeview users who don't read this or
other net based forums of the change?


Interesting point.

It has been regularly announced on BBC7 with the reccommendation that
you have a look at page 9991 on BBCi for more information.

I don't know enough about Logical Channel Numbers so I will attempt to
bull**** that digiboxes will continue to pick up the services on all
muxes with the LCN stored in the box until you do a rescan. That was
certainly the case with my Pace Twin but it may depend on the software
within individual boxes.

To the best of my knowledge the LCN is just an identifier carried
within the digital signal for the benefit of the end user. Other codes
within the signal do the real business. This guess might explain why
all behaved as if nothing had changed until I did a rescan.



--
Richard Watkinson

Treasurer Sheffield Folk Festival

http://www.sheffieldfolkfestival.org/

Turn left where the chip shop used to be.


I have just rescanned my 3 OnD Philips boxes - found 87 channels from
Craigkelly) - including 301-3 (which an earlier poster says are BBCi). I
use one for radio (radio channels are on 192k routinely on DTT rather than
128k on DAB) so I had to connect it to a TV to see the menus. Radio 3 is
now 703 rather than 73. I did see a message on More4 - and there is a long
piece on BBC 9991.



Mark Carver October 19th 05 09:59 AM

New Freeview Channel Numbers
 

Patrick Nethercot (ngs) wrote:
Richard Watkinson wrote:


I can't say but did you do a channel rescan?


Yes. BBC 4 still on 10.


Toppy PVR ?

If so, perform a factory reset (you'll lose your timer settings etc)
and then rescan.


Mark Carver October 19th 05 10:29 AM

New Freeview Channel Numbers
 

ngs Patrick Nethercot wrote:
"Mark Carver" wrote:


Yes. BBC 4 still on 10.


Toppy PVR ?


Yes

If so, perform a factory reset (you'll lose your timer settings etc)
and then rescan.


But it's working OK (even BBC). If it ain't broke...


It will still work yes, it's only needed if you want the channels on
the new numbers.

However surely you've downloaded Topfield's new firmware (issued at
17:30 last night) as a fix for last week's BBC MHEG crashes ? If so
you should have performed a factory reset anyway ?


Jeff Layman October 19th 05 10:31 AM

New Freeview Channel Numbers
 
Dickie Mint wrote:
AJM wrote:
I retuned this evening and thought at first that I had lost BBC News
24. However, after working my way through all the channels I found
it had moved from Channel 40 to Channel 80. For my personal
reference I have made a list of the channels as they are available
wef 18th October, 2005. I have copied it below as it may prove
useful to others receiving transmissions from Black Hill in Central
Scotland.


snip

Where have you been ?! :-) Mind you there's been little discussion of
this on usenet. Basically they've reworked the Logical Channel
Numbers (LCN) to be three figure to allow for more genres.

News on :

http://www.freeview.co.uk/channelcha...channelchanges


Much talk on Digital spy :

http://forum.digitalspy.co.uk/board/...d.php?t=291680


Sagem IDT602 at 2100 last night: "new stations detected on the flow" when
switched on. Automatically rescanned. Basically ended up with the same as
Richard Watkinson's list (but from Midhurst).

--
Jeff
(cut "thetape" to reply)



Dickie mint October 19th 05 01:20 PM

New Freeview Channel Numbers
 
snip
Who has informed the 4 million Freeview users who don't read this or
other net based forums of the change?


That was one of the points frequently made in the several DS threads!
The advice can only be to complain to the Broadcasters.

Radio Times sort of hints at it, on CBBC for example it lists "channel
30", "70 from Tuesday"!

In my days at the beeb I used to suggest that a little trail be made
advertising the change, if only locally.

Max Demian October 19th 05 01:25 PM

New Freeview Channel Numbers
 
"Dickie mint" wrote in message
...
snip
Who has informed the 4 million Freeview users who don't read this or
other net based forums of the change?


That was one of the points frequently made in the several DS threads!
The advice can only be to complain to the Broadcasters.

Radio Times sort of hints at it, on CBBC for example it lists "channel
30", "70 from Tuesday"!


Actually it has a message at the bottom of page 97.

--
Max Demian



Dickie mint October 19th 05 05:50 PM

New Freeview Channel Numbers
 
Max Demian wrote:
"Dickie mint" wrote in message
...

snip

Who has informed the 4 million Freeview users who don't read this or
other net based forums of the change?


That was one of the points frequently made in the several DS threads!
The advice can only be to complain to the Broadcasters.

Radio Times sort of hints at it, on CBBC for example it lists "channel
30", "70 from Tuesday"!



Actually it has a message at the bottom of page 97.

Wow!

Mark Tranchant October 20th 05 10:53 AM

New Freeview Channel Numbers
 
Max Demian wrote:

Radio Times sort of hints at it, on CBBC for example it lists "channel
30", "70 from Tuesday"!


Actually it has a message at the bottom of page 97.


"Beware of the Leopard"...

--
Mark.
http://tranchant.plus.com/

Paul Ratcliffe October 20th 05 06:27 PM

New Freeview Channel Numbers
 
On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 12:20:45 +0100, Dickie mint
wrote:

Who has informed the 4 million Freeview users who don't read this or
other net based forums of the change?


In my days at the beeb I used to suggest that a little trail be made
advertising the change, if only locally.


I bet that went down like a lead balloon....


Roger Wilmut October 21st 05 11:26 AM

New Freeview Channel Numbers
 
On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 12:20:45 +0100, Dickie mint
wrote:

Who has informed the 4 million Freeview users who don't read this or
other net based forums of the change?


BBCi has detailed information in its 'help' section - printed in white
on a light blue background so it's almost illegible.


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