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Stephen September 28th 05 02:12 AM

There's going to be a shuffle of the EPG positions on 18th October.
Channel 13 is currently occupied by S4C2, which will be moving to 86.

Once S4C2 is out of the way, More4 can move nationwide to 13, which has
the advantage of (a) being a lower number, (b) next to E4 on 14

Full details on the changes he
http://www.sbmedia.netfirms.com/free...x_page0003.htm


It's a nonsense that on Freeview ITV2 is Channel 6, and BBC3 is Channel 7
etc. One day they could rationalise Freeview in a different way, taking
account of the fact that there are multiple channels from each broadcaster.
Something like this perhaps:

11 BBC1
12 BBC2
13 BBC3
14 BBC4
15 BBC News
16 CBBC
17 CBeebies
18 BBCi

31 ITV1
32 ITV2
33 ITV3
34 ITV4
35 ITV News
36 CITV

41 Channel 4
42 E4
43 E4+1
44 More 4
45 Quiz Call (from Channel 4)

51 five
52 More five ?
53 ftn (shared ownership with five)

61 Sky One (you never know, they might do this)
62 Sky Two
63 Sky Three
64 Sky Four?
65 Sky News
66 Sky Sports News

71 MTV Hits
72 MTV 2
73 MTV Base
74 MTV Dance
75 TMF
76 The Hits

81 QVC
82 Ideal World
83 Bid-Up TV
84 Price Drop TV
85 another shopping channel

91 UK Gold
92 UK History
93 UK Documentary
94 UK Boring Ideas

101 Radio 1
102 Radio 2
103 Radio 3
104 Radio 4
105 Radio 5
106 Radio 6
107 Radio 7

111 Radio 1 Extra
114 Radio 4 Daily Service
115 Radio 5 Extra

901 Adult Channel
902 Television X
903 Red Hot
904 Spice Platinum



Stephen September 28th 05 02:41 AM

"Dave Newt" wrote in message
...
Stephen wrote:
"Graham" wrote in message

...

Why don't channels have the same channel number on Freeview, Sky, NTL


and

Telewest?


What is it the French say?
Viva Le Difference!



C'est Vive LA Difference, actuellement!


Er, that's "différence".

Oh, and "actuellement" doesn't mean "actually".

You got the gender right though :-)


Zut alors! Il s'avère que je réellement ne comprends pas la langue Française
après tous!



Mark Carver September 28th 05 08:13 AM

Stephen wrote:

It's a nonsense that on Freeview ITV2 is Channel 6, and BBC3 is Channel 7
etc. One day they could rationalise Freeview in a different way, taking
account of the fact that there are multiple channels from each broadcaster.
Something like this perhaps:

11 BBC1
12 BBC2
13 BBC3
14 BBC4
15 BBC News
16 CBBC
17 CBeebies
18 BBCi

31 ITV1
32 ITV2
33 ITV3


ISTR that Ofcom dictate that BBC 1, BBC 2, ITV-1, C4, and Five have to have
'due prominence' on any UK EPG. Therefore they are always the first 5 slots in
that order.

--
Mark
Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply.

Dave Newt September 28th 05 08:41 AM

Stephen wrote:
"Dave Newt" wrote in message
...

Stephen wrote:

"Graham" wrote in message


...

Why don't channels have the same channel number on Freeview, Sky, NTL

and


Telewest?


What is it the French say?
Viva Le Difference!


C'est Vive LA Difference, actuellement!


Er, that's "différence".

Oh, and "actuellement" doesn't mean "actually".

You got the gender right though :-)



Zut alors! Il s'avère que je réellement ne comprends pas la langue Française
après tous!


Hehe, "touché", as they say :-)

Stephen September 28th 05 04:48 PM

"Mark Carver" wrote in message
...
Stephen wrote:

It's a nonsense that on Freeview ITV2 is Channel 6, and BBC3 is Channel

7
etc. One day they could rationalise Freeview in a different way, taking
account of the fact that there are multiple channels from each

broadcaster.
Something like this perhaps:

11 BBC1
12 BBC2
13 BBC3
14 BBC4
15 BBC News
16 CBBC
17 CBeebies
18 BBCi

31 ITV1
32 ITV2
33 ITV3


ISTR that Ofcom dictate that BBC 1, BBC 2, ITV-1, C4, and Five have to

have
'due prominence' on any UK EPG. Therefore they are always the first 5

slots in
that order.


OK, so how about keeping to that for 1,2,3,4,5 but having two numbers for
each of these channels in order to maintain a logical sequence in the
multiple channel groups. For example you would access the same ITV1stream by
pressing 3 or 31, and the same BBC1 stream by pressing 1 or 11. My idea is
to have all the BBC channels starting with a 1, all the ITV channels
starting with a 3, and all the Channel 4 channels starting with a 4 etc, and
it would never look right if you had to have a gap at the start of each
sequence of multiple channels. I wonder if it is possible to have two
different channel numbers for the same stream though?



Richard Watkinson September 28th 05 09:43 PM

In message
"Stephen" wrote:

There's going to be a shuffle of the EPG positions on 18th October.
Channel 13 is currently occupied by S4C2, which will be moving to 86.

Once S4C2 is out of the way, More4 can move nationwide to 13, which has
the advantage of (a) being a lower number, (b) next to E4 on 14

Full details on the changes he
http://www.sbmedia.netfirms.com/free...x_page0003.htm


It's a nonsense that on Freeview ITV2 is Channel 6, and BBC3 is Channel 7
etc. One day they could rationalise Freeview in a different way, taking
account of the fact that there are multiple channels from each broadcaster.
Something like this perhaps:

11 BBC1
12 BBC2
13 BBC3
14 BBC4
15 BBC News
16 CBBC
17 CBeebies
18 BBCi

31 ITV1
32 ITV2
33 ITV3
34 ITV4
35 ITV News
36 CITV

41 Channel 4
42 E4
43 E4+1
44 More 4
45 Quiz Call (from Channel 4)

51 five
52 More five ?
53 ftn (shared ownership with five)

61 Sky One (you never know, they might do this)
62 Sky Two
63 Sky Three
64 Sky Four?
65 Sky News
66 Sky Sports News

71 MTV Hits
72 MTV 2
73 MTV Base
74 MTV Dance
75 TMF
76 The Hits

81 QVC
82 Ideal World
83 Bid-Up TV
84 Price Drop TV
85 another shopping channel

91 UK Gold
92 UK History
93 UK Documentary
94 UK Boring Ideas

101 Radio 1
102 Radio 2
103 Radio 3
104 Radio 4
105 Radio 5
106 Radio 6
107 Radio 7

111 Radio 1 Extra
114 Radio 4 Daily Service
115 Radio 5 Extra

901 Adult Channel
902 Television X
903 Red Hot
904 Spice Platinum


I know this is not true for all digiboxes but in a lot of cases you
can rearrange the logical channel numbers to suit yourself. It is a
bit of a bind with Twins since each time you rescan you also have to
set it all up again.

One advantage of doing this is that the EPG will show the channels you
are mainly interested in.

Naturally if your box does not have this feature it is back to square
1.

--
Richard Watkinson

Treasurer Sheffield Folk Festival

http://www.sheffieldfolkfestival.org/

Turn left where the chip shop used to be.

Mark Carver October 10th 05 02:37 PM


Industrial wrote:
Mark Carver wrote:
http://www.channel4.com/more4/

Umm, it says "Free To Air" on D-Sat, I wonder if they really mean that ?


Why wouldn't they?

They know "Freesat" is coming.

They know the BBC is FTA.

They know ITV3 is FTA.

They're not stupid.


Well Mr 'Industial' stupid or not, by C4's amended web site, More 4
won't even be FTV on D-Sat, it's subs only.

http://www.channel4.com/more4/getmore4.html

Quote:-
More4 is in the basic channel package through subscription on Sky, ntl
and Telewest. If you have a digital box that receives Freeview, you can

watch More4 for free without subscription.


[email protected] October 10th 05 02:49 PM


Stephen wrote:
"Dave Newt" wrote in message
...
Stephen wrote:
"Graham" wrote in message

...

Why don't channels have the same channel number on Freeview, Sky, NTL

and

Telewest?


What is it the French say?
Viva Le Difference!


C'est Vive LA Difference, actuellement!


Er, that's "diff=E9rence".

Oh, and "actuellement" doesn't mean "actually".

You got the gender right though :-)


Zut alors! Il s'av=E8re que je r=E9ellement ne comprends pas la langue Fr=

an=E7aise
apr=E8s tous!


Mange tout Rodney, mange tout!



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