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Larry Bud September 16th 05 02:50 PM

Damn you, Survivor!!
 
First ep of Survivor was on last night, AGAIN not recorded in HD. It's
a PERFECT venue for HD, out in the jungle/ocean and a couple of hot
babes.


Curmudgeon September 16th 05 04:34 PM

Larry Bud wrote:
First ep of Survivor was on last night, AGAIN not recorded in HD. It's
a PERFECT venue for HD, out in the jungle/ocean and a couple of hot
babes.

Bad shows look even worse in HD. Count your blessings.

Ryan Lago September 17th 05 12:30 AM

On 16 Sep 2005 05:50:36 -0700, "Larry Bud"
wrote:

First ep of Survivor was on last night, AGAIN not recorded in HD. It's
a PERFECT venue for HD, out in the jungle/ocean and a couple of hot
babes.


A HD cam is worth about $ 100.000.
They're using old Betacam SP camcorders which do not cost that much.
Camcorders actually don't like the tropical climate ... the salty air
and all the dirt are bad for them.

You cant rent twenty HD camcorders for Survivor. They won't let you.
Because afterwards the camcorders are crap.

By the way, all the costly editing equipment has to be replaced also.
In case you didnt know already - the episodes are edited on location.

Norm September 17th 05 06:33 AM

How much are those Sony prosumer 3 chippers? $4000 with XLRs and all that
stuff you really need. Editors are computers nowadays. My buddy can shoot on
those little deals and edit in HD at home. Whats CBS's excuse? HD doesn't
make any broadcasters any money so the really could care less.
Norm



Ryan Lago September 17th 05 10:04 AM

On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 04:33:01 GMT, "Norm"
wrote:

How much are those Sony prosumer 3 chippers? $4000 with XLRs and all that
stuff you really need. Editors are computers nowadays. My buddy can shoot on
those little deals and edit in HD at home. Whats CBS's excuse? HD doesn't
make any broadcasters any money so the really could care less.
Norm


There is no prosumer HD cam that produces editable material.
Lenses are crap also.

[email protected] September 17th 05 02:21 PM

On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 10:04:22 +0200 Ryan Lago wrote:
| On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 04:33:01 GMT, "Norm"
| wrote:
|
|How much are those Sony prosumer 3 chippers? $4000 with XLRs and all that
|stuff you really need. Editors are computers nowadays. My buddy can shoot on
|those little deals and edit in HD at home. Whats CBS's excuse? HD doesn't
|make any broadcasters any money so the really could care less.
|Norm
|
|
| There is no prosumer HD cam that produces editable material.

So you are saying what ... that it produces only non-editable material?


| Lenses are crap also.

I can certainly believe that.

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Jeff Rife September 17th 05 06:02 PM

Ryan Lago ) wrote in alt.tv.tech.hdtv:
How much are those Sony prosumer 3 chippers? $4000 with XLRs and all that
stuff you really need. Editors are computers nowadays. My buddy can shoot on
those little deals and edit in HD at home.


There is no prosumer HD cam that produces editable material.


All of them seem to output HDV, and I know of at least two fairly
inexpensive programs that can handle that format (Adobe Premiere Pro and
Pinnacle Studio Plus 10). You can get Pinnacle for less than $100.

--
Jeff Rife | "I've never understood the female capacity to
| avoid a direct answer to any question."
|
| -- Mr. Spock, "This Side of Paradise"

Ryan Lago September 17th 05 08:25 PM

On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 12:02:49 -0400, Jeff Rife wrote:

Ryan Lago ) wrote in alt.tv.tech.hdtv:
How much are those Sony prosumer 3 chippers? $4000 with XLRs and all that
stuff you really need. Editors are computers nowadays. My buddy can shoot on
those little deals and edit in HD at home.


There is no prosumer HD cam that produces editable material.


All of them seem to output HDV, and I know of at least two fairly
inexpensive programs that can handle that format (Adobe Premiere Pro and
Pinnacle Studio Plus 10). You can get Pinnacle for less than $100.


Regarding HDV: Have fun trying to cut accurately!

Jeff Rife September 17th 05 09:21 PM

Ryan Lago ) wrote in alt.tv.tech.hdtv:
All of them seem to output HDV, and I know of at least two fairly
inexpensive programs that can handle that format (Adobe Premiere Pro and
Pinnacle Studio Plus 10). You can get Pinnacle for less than $100.


Regarding HDV: Have fun trying to cut accurately!


How is it different from DV or HD MPEG-2?

--
Jeff Rife | Sam: Hey, how's life treating you there, Norm?
|
| Norm: Beats me...then it kicks me and leaves me
| for dead.

Ritz September 17th 05 10:06 PM

Jeff Rife wrote:
Ryan Lago ) wrote in alt.tv.tech.hdtv:

How much are those Sony prosumer 3 chippers? $4000 with XLRs and all that
stuff you really need. Editors are computers nowadays. My buddy can shoot on
those little deals and edit in HD at home.


There is no prosumer HD cam that produces editable material.



All of them seem to output HDV, and I know of at least two fairly
inexpensive programs that can handle that format (Adobe Premiere Pro and
Pinnacle Studio Plus 10). You can get Pinnacle for less than $100.



And, of course, Final Cut Pro can handle it. If anyone is doing
anything remotely professional for TV broadcast, I imagine they'd use
this plus a Mac(s) to get the job done.

Cheers,


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