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ITV and the BBC are to launch a free digital satellite service
Things could get very interesting over the next year or 2. :)
---- ITV and the BBC are to launch a free digital satellite service in a long-anticipated move to take on market-leading pay-TV company BSkyB. The broadcasters said today they were working together to develop a Freesat service that would "complement" Freeview, the digital terrestrial service that has been sold to more than 5 million homes. Freesat will be aimed at the 25% of UK households that cannot receive Freeview and is aiming to be operational in the first half of next year. The new service will compete with Sky's own Freesat service, which launched in October offering 120 TV channels and 80 radio stations for a one-off installation charge of £150. Sky is also the market leader in pay television, with 7.8 million subscribers to its Sky Digital satellite service that gives access to premium channels. ITV - which announced a rise in revenues and profits as it unveiled first-half results today - also said it would start broadcasting all its channels "in the clear", following the BBC's lead in dispensing with Sky's encryption services. The new Freesat service will showcase all of ITV's digital channels along with those of the BBC and other broadcasters. Charles Allen, the ITV chief executive, said the company wanted its channels to be as widely available as possible. "As we move from an analogue to a digital environment, Freesat - and Freeview - will enable every family in the UK to enjoy a wide range of quality channels for free," he said http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertain...io/4221722.stm http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/mai...4/cnsatl04.xml http://www.companyannouncements.net/...01219337Q.html http://www.sharecast.com/cgi-bin/sha...tory_id=534946 -- Blueyonder Photographic Group http://groups.msn.com/BlueyonderPhotographic |
"^^artnada^^" wrote in message .uk... Things could get very interesting over the next year or 2. :) ---- So technically how will this work? Will it be the same satellite/transponder used by Sky and this new Freeview? Or will every one be duplicated? Will a Sky digibox do? If one uses a normal digital box now one does not get the Sky EPG etc. so will we have to buy new boxes, I do not suppose BBC/ITV will give them away as Sky do. Quite frankly I feel Sky should be involved with the BBC and ITV in this and they all work together. I feel a bigger mess arriseing than now comeing on. -- Regards, David Please reply to News Group |
On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 08:43:36 GMT, "David"
wrote: So technically how will this work? The ITV and BBC channels will be FTA so you'll be able to use a receiver without a card slot. They will still be broadcast from the same satellites and will still be available on Sky receivers. ITV/BBC are merely seeking publicity by saying that they are launching a new "service". sponix |
David wrote:
"^^artnada^^" wrote in message .uk... Things could get very interesting over the next year or 2. :) So technically how will this work? Will it be the same satellite/transponder used by Sky and this new Freeview? Or will every one be duplicated? Will a Sky digibox do? If one uses a normal digital box now one does not get the Sky EPG etc. so will we have to buy new boxes, I do not suppose BBC/ITV will give them away as Sky do. Quite frankly I feel Sky should be involved with the BBC and ITV in this and they all work together. I feel a bigger mess arriseing than now comeing on. It's almost certain that existing BBC and ITV transmissions on the 'Sky platform' will be unaffected as far as existing Sky digibox users are concerned. The only difference is that it seems ITV transmissions will become FTA (just as the Beeb's did in July 2003) It will be interesting to see how ITV propose to regionally allocate their services on the 'non Sky' boxes, (I suppose the Beeb with employ the same method) ? -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. |
David wrote:
"^^artnada^^" wrote in message .uk... Things could get very interesting over the next year or 2. :) So technically how will this work? Will it be the same satellite/transponder used by Sky and this new Freeview? Or will every one be duplicated? Will a Sky digibox do? If one uses a normal digital box now one does not get the Sky EPG etc. so will we have to buy new boxes, I do not suppose BBC/ITV will give them away as Sky do. Quite frankly I feel Sky should be involved with the BBC and ITV in this and they all work together. I feel a bigger mess arriseing than now comeing on. It's almost certain that existing BBC and ITV transmissions on the 'Sky platform' will be unaffected as far as existing Sky digibox users are concerned. The only difference is that it seems ITV transmissions will become FTA (just as the Beeb's did in July 2003) It will be interesting to see how ITV propose to regionally allocate their services on the 'non Sky' boxes, (I suppose the Beeb with employ the same method) ? -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. |
"s--p--o--n--i--x" wrote in message ... On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 08:43:36 GMT, "David" wrote: So technically how will this work? The ITV and BBC channels will be FTA so you'll be able to use a receiver without a card slot. They will still be broadcast from the same satellites and will still be available on Sky receivers. ITV/BBC are merely seeking publicity by saying that they are launching a new "service". sponix Do you think they'll get their monkey out again? ;-) |
"David" wrote:
So technically how will this work? Best guesses follow: Will it be the same satellite/transponder used by Sky and this new Freeview? It'll be Astra 2D, same as now. Or will every one be duplicated? itv-1 and BBC are already duplicated a lot to show regional news/ads. They don't seem to merge transmissions when they're showing the same programme, which is what German and Austrian channels do (frees up capacity which can be used for other channels the rest of the time). I'm told that was because Sky digiboxes don't cope well with merges and splits. Will a Sky digibox do? You should be able to get all these channels. If one uses a normal digital box now one does not get the Sky EPG etc. so will we have to buy new boxes, I do not suppose BBC/ITV will give them away as Sky do. Hopefully BBC and ITV will start broadcasting the normal EPG (DVB-SI EIT) in addition to the Sky one. Sky don't give boxes away: you're tied into their subscription if you take a freebie, else you pay. Quite frankly I feel Sky should be involved with the BBC and ITV in this and they all work together. I feel a bigger mess arriseing than now comeing on. I don't want to buy from Murdoch. This might cause a little short-term mess, but might make Sky end the non-standard dodgy digibox approach, by promoting standards and competition. Now, if Ceefax returns as part of this, all will be right with the world... -- MJR/slef astefaq updated with itv news: http://mjr.towers.org.uk/comp/astefaq.txt |
"Mark Carver" wrote in message
... David wrote: "^^artnada^^" wrote in message .uk... Things could get very interesting over the next year or 2. :) So technically how will this work? Will it be the same satellite/transponder used by Sky and this new Freeview? Or will every one be duplicated? Will a Sky digibox do? If one uses a normal digital box now one does not get the Sky EPG etc. so will we have to buy new boxes, I do not suppose BBC/ITV will give them away as Sky do. Quite frankly I feel Sky should be involved with the BBC and ITV in this and they all work together. I feel a bigger mess arriseing than now comeing on. It's almost certain that existing BBC and ITV transmissions on the 'Sky platform' will be unaffected as far as existing Sky digibox users are concerned. The only difference is that it seems ITV transmissions will become FTA (just as the Beeb's did in July 2003) What about the interactive support? Do any of the present non sky satellite receivers handle the interactive system used on the Sky platform? Will channels 4 and 5 follow? -- Michael Chare |
I don't want to buy from Murdoch. This might cause a little short-term mess, but might make Sky end the non-standard dodgy digibox approach, by promoting standards and competition. Now, if Ceefax returns as part of this, all will be right with the world... Amen. It was one week after Sept 11th that Ceefax was switched off - the BBC ******s - so I think it is the 18th Sept 2005 that will be the 4th anniversary of CEEFAX's digital demise. |
"Michael Chare" wrote in message ... "Mark Carver" wrote in message ... David wrote: "^^artnada^^" wrote in message .uk... Things could get very interesting over the next year or 2. :) So technically how will this work? Will it be the same satellite/transponder used by Sky and this new Freeview? Or will every one be duplicated? Will a Sky digibox do? If one uses a normal digital box now one does not get the Sky EPG etc. so will we have to buy new boxes, I do not suppose BBC/ITV will give them away as Sky do. Quite frankly I feel Sky should be involved with the BBC and ITV in this and they all work together. I feel a bigger mess arriseing than now comeing on. It's almost certain that existing BBC and ITV transmissions on the 'Sky platform' will be unaffected as far as existing Sky digibox users are concerned. The only difference is that it seems ITV transmissions will become FTA (just as the Beeb's did in July 2003) What about the interactive support? Do any of the present non sky satellite receivers handle the interactive system used on the Sky platform? Will channels 4 and 5 follow? -- Michael Chare Well firstly, Interactive Software should have been developed using a common standard, not the closed "open TV" proprietary system. Secondly, Interactive TV isn't really interactive TV since its too slow for gaming and "interactivity" and is mainly good for "channel switching". If broadcasters want to make people switch channels, there is no reason why they can't do it the same way Freeview / DTT does it with some high-band channel numbers like 701, 702, 705, allocated to alternate screens. |
^^artnada^^ wrote:
Things could get very interesting over the next year or 2. :) ---- ITV and the BBC are to launch a free digital satellite service in a long-anticipated move to take on market-leading pay-TV company BSkyB. Hallefkingluyah. I was getting worried that ITV were going to stay encrypted. -- Steve - www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - Digital Radio News & Info Find the cheapest Freeview, DAB & MP3 Player Prices: http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/fr..._receivers.htm http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/da...tal_radios.htm http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/mp...rs_1GB-5GB.htm http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/mp...e_capacity.htm |
"s--p--o--n--i--x" wrote in message ... On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 08:43:36 GMT, "David" wrote: So technically how will this work? The ITV and BBC channels will be FTA so you'll be able to use a receiver without a card slot. And what about interactive text. Will it use the Sky system or the standard European system built into all non-Sky boxes ? They will still be broadcast from the same satellites and will still be available on Sky receivers. ITV/BBC are merely seeking publicity by saying that they are launching a new "service". sponix |
"MJ Ray" wrote in message news:431eb0ea$0$32182 snip Now, if Ceefax returns as part of this, all will be right with the world... MJR/slef Hopefully also opens up the prospect of subscription free PVR boxes to end the Sky + racket. Time to sell Sky shares methinks! Dave W. |
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David Westerman popped a head above the parapet and announced forth in a bold strong and almost manly voice: "MJ Ray" wrote in message news:431eb0ea$0$32182 snip Now, if Ceefax returns as part of this, all will be right with the world... MJR/slef Hopefully also opens up the prospect of subscription free PVR boxes to end the Sky + racket. Time to sell Sky shares methinks! Dave W. Definatly. This rip off should have been stopped along time ago. It's like going into Dixons and buying a DVD recorder only to be told, "you can't use the remote unless you pay us another £10 per month Sir". Look out for more info soon ;) |
In uk.media.tv.sky David Westerman wrote:
: Hopefully also opens up the prospect of subscription free PVR boxes to end : the Sky + racket. But Sky themselves are already thinking of making Sky+ subscription free! : Time to sell Sky shares methinks! But all this excitment is premature! There will be no C4 and C5 for some years and I would confidently expect that something like 95+% of DSAT viewing will end up still being on Digiboxes (which are very cheap second-hand from ebay etc.)!! |
Agamemnon wrote:
"s--p--o--n--i--x" wrote in message ... On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 08:43:36 GMT, "David" wrote: So technically how will this work? The ITV and BBC channels will be FTA so you'll be able to use a receiver without a card slot. And what about interactive text. Will it use the Sky system or the standard European system built into all non-Sky boxes ? They will still be broadcast from the same satellites and will still be available on Sky receivers. ITV/BBC are merely seeking publicity by saying that they are launching a new "service". sponix And what about the cost of the equipment? will I be forking out for the receiver+ the bloody TV licence? Graham |
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"MJ Ray" wrote in message news:431eb0ea$0$32182 Now, if Ceefax returns as part of this, all will be right with the world... (By the way, Ceefax news is still on BBC World on some satellites, and is the audio out of sync on Hotbird for anyone else?) Hopefully also opens up the prospect of subscription free PVR boxes to end the Sky + racket. Hopefully also allows DIY PVRs like www.mythtv.org work better. |
"wowfabgroovy" wrote in message
... (s--p--o--n--i--x) went: The ITV and BBC channels will be FTA so you'll be able to use a receiver without a card slot. if there's no card, how would they stop foreigners from watching it? i thought that was why they weren't fta now. film rights or something? The BBC has been FTA for about 2 years. When they went FTA they changed to a satellite footprint that is more closely focused on the UK making reception in places like Spain more difficult. I think a few sports programmes are omitted from the satellite transmissions. ITV's main reason for encryption was that they could target advertising to geographic areas. Many (maybe most) German and French programmes are FTA -- Michael Chare |
Brian McIlwrath wrote:
In uk.media.tv.sky David Westerman wrote: : Hopefully also opens up the prospect of subscription free PVR boxes to end : the Sky + racket. But Sky themselves are already thinking of making Sky+ subscription free! ...and all the time they think, they're still billing people while apologists try to placate people! : Time to sell Sky shares methinks! But all this excitment is premature! There will be no C4 and C5 for some years [...] Last September, Channel 4 bought its own space on Astra 2D for ~14 channels for 10 years at a cost of 80M EUR. I guess the Sky encryption will be used for FilmFour for the full duration of their Sky contract, but what's the obstacle to FTA C4 now? If the transponder-news report about More4 is accurate, that will be FTA from launch. Don't care too much about five. Don't get that here now anyway. I quite expect Sky to pull some cunning stunts in response. When they do, let's all say "well look what fairer competition does! We need more!" ;-) |
"Heracles Pollux" wrote in message
... Well firstly, Interactive Software should have been developed using a common standard, not the closed "open TV" proprietary system. Yes I agree. Secondly, Interactive TV isn't really interactive TV since its too slow for gaming and "interactivity" and is mainly good for "channel switching". I would happily argue that 'Interactive' is a misnomer since there is no return path to the originator. If broadcasters want to make people switch channels, there is no reason why they can't do it the same way Freeview / DTT does it with some high-band channel numbers like 701, 702, 705, allocated to alternate screens. The BBC have similar satellite channels which they used during Wimbledon and Glastonbury. You can view them with a Non Sky receiver. -- Michael Chare |
"Michael Chare" wrote:
The BBC has been FTA for about 2 years. When they went FTA they changed to a satellite footprint that is more closely focused on the UK making reception in places like Spain more difficult. ITV is on that footprint now. C4 have hired space, but C4 is on 2A North. I think a few sports programmes are omitted from the satellite transmissions. Some Scottish football, but I think that's because of viewers in the rest of the UK, not any non-UK overspill coverage. Any others? |
"Michael Chare" wrote in message ... "Mark Carver" wrote in message ... David wrote: "^^artnada^^" wrote in message .uk... Things could get very interesting over the next year or 2. :) So technically how will this work? Will it be the same satellite/transponder used by Sky and this new Freeview? Or will every one be duplicated? Will a Sky digibox do? If one uses a normal digital box now one does not get the Sky EPG etc. so will we have to buy new boxes, I do not suppose BBC/ITV will give them away as Sky do. Quite frankly I feel Sky should be involved with the BBC and ITV in this and they all work together. I feel a bigger mess arriseing than now comeing on. It's almost certain that existing BBC and ITV transmissions on the 'Sky platform' will be unaffected as far as existing Sky digibox users are concerned. The only difference is that it seems ITV transmissions will become FTA (just as the Beeb's did in July 2003) What about the interactive support? Do any of the present non sky satellite receivers handle the interactive system used on the Sky platform? Will channels 4 and 5 follow? -- I feel that Channel 5 is going to be the hardest nut to crack, as one possible reason that they've stayed so cosy with Sky is that at one time there was considerable speculation about them being bought out by Mr Murdoch. Something which didn't prevail, but maybe they're still hoping, in which case it's unlikely that they will be doing anything to rock the boat. Michael Chare |
But all this excitment is premature! There will be no C4 and C5 for some years and I would confidently expect that something like 95+% of DSAT viewing will end up still being on Digiboxes (which are very cheap second-hand from ebay etc.)!! HDTV may speed things up a bit. With the BBC committed to HDTV, and there not being any capacity available for it on Freeview.... FreeSat is the obvious choice to push the HDTV services. C4 & C5 will have to follow. S. |
In uk.media.tv.sky Michael Chare wrote:
: The BBC has been FTA for about 2 years. When they went FTA they changed to a : satellite footprint that is more closely focused on the UK making reception in : places like Spain more difficult. More difficult but NOT impossible. The BBC are possibly paying just as much in increased costs for programme rights as they ever did to be encrypted! |
In uk.media.tv.sky Ivan wrote:
: I feel that Channel 5 is going to be the hardest nut to crack, as one : possible reason that they've stayed so cosy with Sky is that at one time : there was considerable speculation about them being bought out by Mr : Murdoch. Something which didn't prevail, but maybe they're still hoping, in : which case it's unlikely that they will be doing anything to rock the boat. C4 need to remain friendly with Sky who do the subscriptions for FilmFour for them. C4 also currently get free uplinking of C4 and E4 done by Sky as well and would need to make arrangements for others to do this! |
In uk.tech.digital-tv MJ Ray wrote:
: Now, if Ceefax returns as part of this, all will be right with the world... Ceefax will NOT return. Sky Digiboxes could always (and still can) support VBI teletext - but most Freeview STBs cannot. As part of the BBCs desire to concentrate on Digital Teletext (and to even the playing field) the removal of Ceefax was a totally political decision! |
Brian McIlwrath wrote:
C4 also currently get free uplinking of C4 and E4 done by Sky as well and would need to make arrangements for others to do this! No, that's done by NTL (Aquiva), however Sky do uplink C5. -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. |
"Brian McIlwrath" wrote in message ... In uk.media.tv.sky Ivan wrote: : I feel that Channel 5 is going to be the hardest nut to crack, as one : possible reason that they've stayed so cosy with Sky is that at one time : there was considerable speculation about them being bought out by Mr : Murdoch. Something which didn't prevail, but maybe they're still hoping, in : which case it's unlikely that they will be doing anything to rock the boat. C4 need to remain friendly with Sky who do the subscriptions for FilmFour for them. C4 also currently get free uplinking of C4 and E4 done by Sky as well and would need to make arrangements for others to do this! No they don't need to "remain friendly". FilmFour's CAM contract is on commercial terms, and is a requirement regulated by ****Off-Com. It makes no difference what C4 does, since Sky have no choice in providing "standard terms" of business to any broadcaster. |
On 07 Sep 2005 10:23:13 GMT, MJ Ray wrote:
wrote: "MJ Ray" wrote in message news:431eb0ea$0$32182 Now, if Ceefax returns as part of this, all will be right with the world... (By the way, Ceefax news is still on BBC World on some satellites, and is the audio out of sync on Hotbird for anyone else?) Hopefully also opens up the prospect of subscription free PVR boxes to end the Sky + racket. Hopefully also allows DIY PVRs like www.mythtv.org work better. Yes! Lipsync poor on BBC World/Hotbird here too. *Extract FINGER for email* |
Brian McIlwrath wrote:
In uk.media.tv.sky Ivan wrote: I feel that Channel 5 is going to be the hardest nut to crack, as one possible reason that they've stayed so cosy with Sky is that at one time there was considerable speculation about them being bought out by Mr Murdoch. Something which didn't prevail, but maybe they're still hoping, in which case it's unlikely that they will be doing anything to rock the boat. C4 need to remain friendly with Sky who do the subscriptions for FilmFour for them. C4 also currently get free uplinking of C4 and E4 done by Sky as well and would need to make arrangements for others to do this! C4's Chief Exec, Andy Duncan, seems to be one of the biggest fans of the free-to-air model, so I reckon C4 will join for the launch. five is another matter though, but haven't they just been taken over by RTL? Once the BBC and ITV start advertising Freesat on their TV channels and ****loads of people get Freesat then the economics of subscription versus FTA start tipping in the favour of FTA, and five will eventually get on-board. Well, that's my theory anyway, although I suppose I'm biased towards that view anyway. -- Steve - www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - Digital Radio News & Info Find the cheapest Freeview, DAB & MP3 Player Prices: http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/fr..._receivers.htm http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/da...tal_radios.htm http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/mp...rs_1GB-5GB.htm http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/mp...e_capacity.htm |
DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
Brian McIlwrath wrote: C4's Chief Exec, Andy Duncan, seems to be one of the biggest fans of the free-to-air model, so I reckon C4 will join for the launch. I think so too, Andy Duncan in his previous job at the BBC was one of Freeview's main architects. five is another matter though, but haven't they just been taken over by RTL? An outfit running German and Dutch FTA D-Sat channels :-) Once the BBC and ITV start advertising Freesat on their TV channels and ****loads of people get Freesat then the economics of subscription versus FTA start tipping in the favour of FTA, and five will eventually get on-board. Well, that's my theory anyway, Mine too. -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. |
"Mark Carver" wrote in message
... DAB sounds worse than FM wrote: Once the BBC and ITV start advertising Freesat on their TV channels and ****loads of people get Freesat then the economics of subscription versus FTA start tipping in the favour of FTA, and five will eventually get on-board. Well, that's my theory anyway, Mine too. You would think that Five have quite a lot to gain by going FTA on satellite as they have the poorest terrestrial anlaogue cover. I wonder if Sky will keep their £150 non subscription installation price (if it still available now). I doubt that you could get a non sky system installed for this price. -- Michael Chare |
Ivan wrote:
"Michael Chare" wrote in message ... "Mark Carver" wrote in message ... David wrote: "^^artnada^^" wrote in message .uk... Things could get very interesting over the next year or 2. :) So technically how will this work? Will it be the same satellite/transponder used by Sky and this new Freeview? Or will every one be duplicated? Will a Sky digibox do? If one uses a normal digital box now one does not get the Sky EPG etc. so will we have to buy new boxes, I do not suppose BBC/ITV will give them away as Sky do. Quite frankly I feel Sky should be involved with the BBC and ITV in this and they all work together. I feel a bigger mess arriseing than now comeing on. It's almost certain that existing BBC and ITV transmissions on the 'Sky platform' will be unaffected as far as existing Sky digibox users are concerned. The only difference is that it seems ITV transmissions will become FTA (just as as the Beeb's did in July 2003) What about the interactive support? Do any of the present non sky satellite receivers handle the interactive system used on the Sky platform? Will channels 4 and 5 follow? -- I feel that Channel 5 is going to be the hardest nut to crack, as one possible reason that they've stayed so cosy with Sky is that at one time there was considerable speculation about them being bought out by Mr Murdoch. Something which didn't prevail, but maybe they're still hoping, in which case it's unlikely that they will be doing anything to rock the boat. five are wholey owned by RTL |
On 7/9/05 9:16 am, in article
, "^^artnada^^" wrote: ITV and the BBC are to launch a free digital satellite service in a long-anticipated move to take on market-leading pay-TV company BSkyB. [snip] Unless I'm mistaken you've lifted this story without attribution or byline from he http://media.guardian.co.uk/site/sto...564348,00.html |
On Wed, 7 Sep 2005 10:42:16 +0100, "Agamemnon"
wrote: "s--p--o--n--i--x" wrote in message ... On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 08:43:36 GMT, "David" wrote: So technically how will this work? The ITV and BBC channels will be FTA so you'll be able to use a receiver without a card slot. And what about interactive text. Will it use the Sky system or the standard European system built into all non-Sky boxes ? Dunno. If they have any sense then it'll work... |
On Wed, 7 Sep 2005 11:42:10 +0100, "Ivan"
wrote: e FTA I feel that Channel 5 is going to be the hardest nut to crack, as one possible reason that they've stayed so cosy with Sky is that at one time there was considerable speculation about them being bought out by Mr Murdoch. Something which didn't prevail, but maybe they're still hoping, in which case it's unlikely that they will be doing anything to rock the boat. Five were recently bought by RTL. |
"s--p--o--n--i--x" wrote in message ... On Wed, 7 Sep 2005 11:42:10 +0100, "Ivan" wrote: e FTA I feel that Channel 5 is going to be the hardest nut to crack, as one possible reason that they've stayed so cosy with Sky is that at one time there was considerable speculation about them being bought out by Mr Murdoch. Something which didn't prevail, but maybe they're still hoping, in which case it's unlikely that they will be doing anything to rock the boat. Five were recently bought by RTL. I hadn't realised that, so things could be starting to look more hopeful, from the point of view of RTL already owning FTA satellite channels. I've often wondered with Channel 5 being so readily available digitally on satellite and Freeview, why the analogue channel hasn't been put to more useful use and converted to digital... possibly as an SFN network? |
On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 13:24:48 +0100, U n d e r a c h i e v e r
wrote: | On 7/9/05 9:16 am, in article | , "^^artnada^^" | wrote: | | | ITV and the BBC are to launch a free digital satellite service in a | long-anticipated move to take on market-leading pay-TV company BSkyB. | | | | [snip] | | Unless I'm mistaken you've lifted this story without attribution or byline | from he | | http://media.guardian.co.uk/site/sto...564348,00.html It was also on BBC1 1 o'clock news -- Dave Fawthrop dave hyphenologist co uk "Intelligent Design?" my knees say *not*. "Intelligent Design?" my back says *not*. |
Nigel Barker wrote:
On Wed, 7 Sep 2005 13:15:03 +0100, "Michael Chare" Five _were_ FTA on Astra 19.2 analogue before Sky switched entirely to digital. For the pedants they were actually soft encrypted in that you needed a videocrypt decoder but did not require a card. ....and I was told there was some alarm when it became clear to C5 and their rights holders how 'widespread' the viewing on that output actually was ! -- Mark Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply. |
In article , Mark Carver
wrote: It will be interesting to see how ITV propose to regionally allocate their services on the 'non Sky' boxes, (I suppose the Beeb with employ the same method) ? Phil: Its easy: - the home user does it when they start up their box. One of our boxes (can't remember which it was now) simply asks you for your Post Code when you set it up (also advertisable as an antitheft deterrant?) - then it simply selects from its look up table. If you then want to see from a different region, simply enter that regions postcode. (might be the Philips HDD/DVDR with Gemstar's off-air EPG broadcasts which can be tailored t your region as a result? Time to start packing and head back for another Dutch Beer 8-) -- Phil Spiegelhalter: ==== Technical Training for Broadcasters ===== *RE CUE Mobile DV Multi-Camera Production and Non-Linear Editing* |
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