DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
Brian McIlwrath wrote:

C4's Chief Exec, Andy Duncan, seems to be one of the biggest fans of the
free-to-air model, so I reckon C4 will join for the launch.

I think so too, Andy Duncan in his previous job at the BBC was one of
Freeview's main architects.

five is
another matter though, but haven't they just been taken over by RTL?

An outfit running German and Dutch FTA D-Sat channels :-)

Once the BBC and ITV start advertising Freesat on their TV channels and
****loads of people get Freesat then the economics of subscription
versus FTA start tipping in the favour of FTA, and five will eventually
get on-board. Well, that's my theory anyway,

Mine too.

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"Mark Carver" wrote in message
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DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:

Once the BBC and ITV start advertising Freesat on their TV channels and
****loads of people get Freesat then the economics of subscription
versus FTA start tipping in the favour of FTA, and five will eventually
get on-board. Well, that's my theory anyway,

Mine too.

You would think that Five have quite a lot to gain by going FTA on satellite as
they have the poorest terrestrial anlaogue cover.

I wonder if Sky will keep their £150 non subscription installation price (if it
still available now). I doubt that you could get a non sky system installed for
this price.

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David wrote:
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Things could get very interesting over the next year or 2. :)

So technically how will this work?
Will it be the same satellite/transponder used by Sky and this new
Freeview? Or will every one be duplicated?
Will a Sky digibox do? If one uses a normal digital box now one
does not get the Sky EPG etc. so will we have to buy new boxes, I
do not suppose BBC/ITV will give them away as Sky do.
Quite frankly I feel Sky should be involved with the BBC and ITV
in this and they all work together. I feel a bigger mess
arriseing than now
comeing on.

It's almost certain that existing BBC and ITV transmissions on the
'Sky platform' will be unaffected as far as existing Sky digibox
users are concerned. The only difference is that it seems ITV
transmissions will become FTA (just as
as
the Beeb's did in July 2003)


What about the interactive support? Do any of the present non sky
satellite receivers handle the interactive system used on the Sky
platform?

Will channels 4 and 5 follow?

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I feel that Channel 5 is going to be the hardest nut to crack, as one
possible reason that they've stayed so cosy with Sky is that at one
time there was considerable speculation about them being bought out
by Mr Murdoch. Something which didn't prevail, but maybe they're
still hoping, in which case it's unlikely that they will be doing
anything to rock the boat.

five are wholey owned by RTL

On 7/9/05 9:16 am, in article
, "^^artnada^^"
wrote:


ITV and the BBC are to launch a free digital satellite service in a
long-anticipated move to take on market-leading pay-TV company BSkyB.



[snip]

Unless I'm mistaken you've lifted this story without attribution or byline
from he

http://media.guardian.co.uk/site/sto...564348,00.html

On Wed, 7 Sep 2005 10:42:16 +0100, "Agamemnon"
wrote:


"s--p--o--n--i--x" wrote in message
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On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 08:43:36 GMT, "David"
wrote:

So technically how will this work?

The ITV and BBC channels will be FTA so you'll be able to use a
receiver without a card slot.

And what about interactive text. Will it use the Sky system or the standard
European system built into all non-Sky boxes ?

Dunno. If they have any sense then it'll work...

On Wed, 7 Sep 2005 11:42:10 +0100, "Ivan"
wrote:
e FTA

I feel that Channel 5 is going to be the hardest nut to crack, as one
possible reason that they've stayed so cosy with Sky is that at one time
there was considerable speculation about them being bought out by Mr
Murdoch. Something which didn't prevail, but maybe they're still hoping, in
which case it's unlikely that they will be doing anything to rock the boat.

Five were recently bought by RTL.

"s--p--o--n--i--x" wrote in message
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On Wed, 7 Sep 2005 11:42:10 +0100, "Ivan"
wrote:
e FTA

I feel that Channel 5 is going to be the hardest nut to crack, as one
possible reason that they've stayed so cosy with Sky is that at one time
there was considerable speculation about them being bought out by Mr
Murdoch. Something which didn't prevail, but maybe they're still hoping,
in
which case it's unlikely that they will be doing anything to rock the
boat.

Five were recently bought by RTL.



I hadn't realised that, so things could be starting to look more hopeful,
from the point of view of RTL already owning FTA satellite channels.

I've often wondered with Channel 5 being so readily available digitally on
satellite and Freeview, why the analogue channel hasn't been put to more
useful use and converted to digital... possibly as an SFN network?

On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 13:24:48 +0100, U n d e r a c h i e v e r
wrote:

| On 7/9/05 9:16 am, in article
| , "^^artnada^^"
| wrote:
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| ITV and the BBC are to launch a free digital satellite service in a
| long-anticipated move to take on market-leading pay-TV company BSkyB.
|
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|
| [snip]
|
| Unless I'm mistaken you've lifted this story without attribution or byline
| from he
|
| http://media.guardian.co.uk/site/sto...564348,00.html

It was also on BBC1 1 o'clock news


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Nigel Barker wrote:
On Wed, 7 Sep 2005 13:15:03 +0100, "Michael Chare"


Five _were_ FTA on Astra 19.2 analogue before Sky switched entirely to digital.
For the pedants they were actually soft encrypted in that you needed a
videocrypt decoder but did not require a card.

....and I was told there was some alarm when it became clear to C5 and their
rights holders how 'widespread' the viewing on that output actually was !

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In article , Mark Carver
wrote:

It will be interesting to see how ITV propose to regionally allocate
their services on the 'non Sky' boxes, (I suppose the Beeb with employ
the same method) ?

Phil: Its easy: - the home user does it when they start up their box.
One of our boxes (can't remember which it was now) simply asks you for
your Post Code when you set it up (also advertisable as an antitheft
deterrant?) - then it simply selects from its look up table. If you then
want to see from a different region, simply enter that regions postcode.

(might be the Philips HDD/DVDR with Gemstar's off-air EPG broadcasts which
can be tailored t your region as a result?

Time to start packing and head back for another Dutch Beer 8-)

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