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topgooner71 September 3rd 05 12:18 PM

Parents have been customers for 14 years..... not happy
 
Hi all.. hope someone can help.

My parents were over at mine the other day and say my sky+ box.. they
were hooked, and want one too. I presume you all know where this is
going now....

Now they have been with sky since 1991. always on the full package of
sports and movies.

My mother called them last night to ask if they could get a skyplus box
too. "only if you give us £259" was the response.

But we have been with you for all this time, and you are giving them to
new customers for £99.... surely as a loyal customer I should have one
for that too.....?? she said..

they said no till she said she wanted to cancel her subscription..then
they magically could match it at £99.


No she said.. I want it free, as I have been such a good customer....
they offered a reconditioned one at £50 (is this guaranteed does anyone
know?)

anyway my mother said no, cancel it, and has now given a months notice....

My parents WILL call back to reinstate it in a week or two as my old man
cant live without his football.


BUT are they likely to get a sky+ box for free if they do cancel their
subscription?

thanks.

Charlie

Nige September 3rd 05 01:18 PM

topgooner71 wrote:
Hi all.. hope someone can help.

My parents were over at mine the other day and say my sky+ box.. they
were hooked, and want one too. I presume you all know where this is
going now....

Now they have been with sky since 1991. always on the full package of
sports and movies.

My mother called them last night to ask if they could get a skyplus
box too. "only if you give us £259" was the response.

But we have been with you for all this time, and you are giving them
to new customers for £99.... surely as a loyal customer I should
have one for that too.....?? she said..

they said no till she said she wanted to cancel her subscription..then
they magically could match it at £99.


No she said.. I want it free, as I have been such a good customer....
they offered a reconditioned one at £50 (is this guaranteed does
anyone know?)

anyway my mother said no, cancel it, and has now given a months
notice....
My parents WILL call back to reinstate it in a week or two as my old
man cant live without his football.


BUT are they likely to get a sky+ box for free if they do cancel their
subscription?

thanks.

Charlie


What makes THEM better than any other existing customer??

Nothing, buy it or shut the **** up.

--
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Landrover 110 County Station Wagon (Tyson)

'"Say hello to my little friend"



topgooner71 September 3rd 05 01:20 PM

Nige wrote:

topgooner71 wrote:

Hi all.. hope someone can help.

My parents were over at mine the other day and say my sky+ box.. they
were hooked, and want one too. I presume you all know where this is
going now....

Now they have been with sky since 1991. always on the full package of
sports and movies.

My mother called them last night to ask if they could get a skyplus
box too. "only if you give us £259" was the response.

But we have been with you for all this time, and you are giving them
to new customers for £99.... surely as a loyal customer I should
have one for that too.....?? she said..

they said no till she said she wanted to cancel her subscription..then
they magically could match it at £99.


No she said.. I want it free, as I have been such a good customer....
they offered a reconditioned one at £50 (is this guaranteed does
anyone know?)

anyway my mother said no, cancel it, and has now given a months
notice....
My parents WILL call back to reinstate it in a week or two as my old
man cant live without his football.


BUT are they likely to get a sky+ box for free if they do cancel their
subscription?

thanks.

Charlie



What makes THEM better than any other existing customer??

Nothing, buy it or shut the **** up.

--
Subaru WRX (Annabel)

Landrover 110 County Station Wagon (Tyson)

'"Say hello to my little friend"


hmmm... having a bad day...?
I never said they were better than anyone.

Are you this rude to everyone in your life? or just online?


charlie

Nige September 3rd 05 01:26 PM

topgooner71 wrote:
Nige wrote:

topgooner71 wrote:

Hi all.. hope someone can help.

My parents were over at mine the other day and say my sky+ box..
they were hooked, and want one too. I presume you all know where
this is going now....

Now they have been with sky since 1991. always on the full package
of sports and movies.

My mother called them last night to ask if they could get a skyplus
box too. "only if you give us £259" was the response.

But we have been with you for all this time, and you are giving them
to new customers for £99.... surely as a loyal customer I should
have one for that too.....?? she said..

they said no till she said she wanted to cancel her
subscription..then they magically could match it at £99.


No she said.. I want it free, as I have been such a good
customer.... they offered a reconditioned one at £50 (is this
guaranteed does anyone know?)

anyway my mother said no, cancel it, and has now given a months
notice....
My parents WILL call back to reinstate it in a week or two as my old
man cant live without his football.


BUT are they likely to get a sky+ box for free if they do cancel
their subscription?

thanks.

Charlie



What makes THEM better than any other existing customer??

Nothing, buy it or shut the **** up.

--
Subaru WRX (Annabel)

Landrover 110 County Station Wagon (Tyson)

'"Say hello to my little friend"


hmmm... having a bad day...?
I never said they were better than anyone.

Are you this rude to everyone in your life? or just online?


charlie


Well, I bought my sky+ box, i didn't ask for it free. Are you usually such a sponger or just online?

FFS, it's a product, why should sky give it to you free? I despise Sky myslef, but it's a monopoly & you
either buy it or you dont.

Read your post again.
--
Subaru WRX (Annabel)

Landrover 110 County Station Wagon (Tyson)

'"Say hello to my little friend"



topgooner71 September 3rd 05 01:32 PM

Nige wrote:

topgooner71 wrote:

Nige wrote:


topgooner71 wrote:


Hi all.. hope someone can help.

My parents were over at mine the other day and say my sky+ box..
they were hooked, and want one too. I presume you all know where
this is going now....

Now they have been with sky since 1991. always on the full package
of sports and movies.

My mother called them last night to ask if they could get a skyplus
box too. "only if you give us £259" was the response.

But we have been with you for all this time, and you are giving them
to new customers for £99.... surely as a loyal customer I should
have one for that too.....?? she said..

they said no till she said she wanted to cancel her
subscription..then they magically could match it at £99.


No she said.. I want it free, as I have been such a good
customer.... they offered a reconditioned one at £50 (is this
guaranteed does anyone know?)

anyway my mother said no, cancel it, and has now given a months
notice....
My parents WILL call back to reinstate it in a week or two as my old
man cant live without his football.


BUT are they likely to get a sky+ box for free if they do cancel
their subscription?

thanks.

Charlie


What makes THEM better than any other existing customer??

Nothing, buy it or shut the **** up.

--
Subaru WRX (Annabel)

Landrover 110 County Station Wagon (Tyson)

'"Say hello to my little friend"



hmmm... having a bad day...?
I never said they were better than anyone.

Are you this rude to everyone in your life? or just online?


charlie



Well, I bought my sky+ box, i didn't ask for it free. Are you usually such a sponger or just online?

FFS, it's a product, why should sky give it to you free? I despise Sky myslef, but it's a monopoly & you
either buy it or you dont.

Read your post again.
--
Subaru WRX (Annabel)

Landrover 110 County Station Wagon (Tyson)

'"Say hello to my little friend"




I wouldn't call it being a sponger....

They wanted £259 for it.... Then they were quite happy to accept £99.

They then offered a reconditioned one for £50, and I asked the group if
this would be guaranteed.

Do you always buy everyting at the 'offered price'?

If you do, then perhaps you should reconsider your purchases.

I have re-read my post.... certainly nothing wrong with it.

Thanks for your time in responding.

Charlie

topgooner71 September 3rd 05 01:33 PM

Mike Henry wrote:

In , topgooner71
wrote:


they said no till she said she wanted to cancel her subscription..then
they magically could match it at £99.



That would have been for a brand new box then, from what you say below.
The £99 offer to new subscribers is for a reconditioned box. She was
right to threaten to cancel, but blew everything when she went through
with it.


No she said.. I want it free, as I have been such a good customer....
they offered a reconditioned one at £50 (is this guaranteed does anyone
know?)



For 3 months.


anyway my mother said no, cancel it, and has now given a months notice....

My parents WILL call back to reinstate it in a week or two as my old man
cant live without his football.

BUT are they likely to get a sky+ box for free if they do cancel their
subscription?



No. Your mother is very greedy! Hardware is not free, and both offers
(new for £99, 2nd hand for £50) are much better offers than those for
the new customers. So her loyalty was rewarded in the end, but that
still wasn't enough for her!

Your mother HAS already cancelled her subscription, from what you say,
and blown away the (very good) £99/£50 offers. Game over. She is now
back to square one (£259 for Sky+). All she can do is phone back and say
she has changed her mind and doesn't want to cancel - that would get the
viewing back, with the ordinary digibox.

I'd be astonished if the lower prices would be offered to her again,
because the only way to get them is to threaten to cancel. Second time
around they know she is crying wolf.

HTH

Cool, thanks Mike.

Charlie

Dragon September 3rd 05 06:25 PM


"topgooner71" wrote in message
...
Hi all.. hope someone can help.

My parents were over at mine the other day and say my sky+ box.. they were
hooked, and want one too. I presume you all know where this is going
now....

Now they have been with sky since 1991. always on the full package of
sports and movies.

My mother called them last night to ask if they could get a skyplus box
too. "only if you give us £259" was the response.

But we have been with you for all this time, and you are giving them to
new customers for £99.... surely as a loyal customer I should have one
for that too.....?? she said..

they said no till she said she wanted to cancel her subscription..then
they magically could match it at £99.


No she said.. I want it free, as I have been such a good customer.... they
offered a reconditioned one at £50 (is this guaranteed does anyone know?)

anyway my mother said no, cancel it, and has now given a months notice....

My parents WILL call back to reinstate it in a week or two as my old man
cant live without his football.


BUT are they likely to get a sky+ box for free if they do cancel their
subscription?

thanks.

Charlie


hi charlie i have been with sky from day one in the 80s, did i get a free
one no, did i get it cheaper no, thats sky and loyalty for you but i just
got on with it

dave



Nick September 3rd 05 08:27 PM

On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 11:18:10 +0100, topgooner71
wrote:

No she said.. I want it free, as I have been such a good customer....
they offered a reconditioned one at £50 (is this guaranteed does anyone
know?)


I work in Customer Relations for a large company and I think your
parents are taking the ****. They wanted it at the price of a new
subscriber, they were told they could have it, then they said they
wanted it for free, Sky said they could have it for £50 and that's not
good enough.

Perhaps you can swap your parents for some that are more reasonable?
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mugen September 3rd 05 09:15 PM


"Nige" wrote in message
...
topgooner71 wrote:
Nige wrote:

topgooner71 wrote:

Hi all.. hope someone can help.

My parents were over at mine the other day and say my sky+ box..
they were hooked, and want one too. I presume you all know where
this is going now....

Now they have been with sky since 1991. always on the full package
of sports and movies.

My mother called them last night to ask if they could get a skyplus
box too. "only if you give us £259" was the response.

But we have been with you for all this time, and you are giving them
to new customers for £99.... surely as a loyal customer I should
have one for that too.....?? she said..

they said no till she said she wanted to cancel her
subscription..then they magically could match it at £99.


No she said.. I want it free, as I have been such a good
customer.... they offered a reconditioned one at £50 (is this
guaranteed does anyone know?)

anyway my mother said no, cancel it, and has now given a months
notice....
My parents WILL call back to reinstate it in a week or two as my old
man cant live without his football.


BUT are they likely to get a sky+ box for free if they do cancel
their subscription?

thanks.

Charlie


What makes THEM better than any other existing customer??

Nothing, buy it or shut the **** up.

--
Subaru WRX (Annabel)

Landrover 110 County Station Wagon (Tyson)

'"Say hello to my little friend"


hmmm... having a bad day...?
I never said they were better than anyone.

Are you this rude to everyone in your life? or just online?


charlie


Well, I bought my sky+ box, i didn't ask for it free. Are you usually such
a sponger or just online?

FFS, it's a product, why should sky give it to you free? I despise Sky
myslef, but it's a monopoly & you either buy it or you dont.

Read your post again.
--
Subaru WRX (Annabel)

Landrover 110 County Station Wagon (Tyson)

'"Say hello to my little friend"

your obviously an idiot.. accepting the sticker price for whatever,...
i've a10 year old v/hall nova i want to sell.. maybe you could buy it for
8k.. after all thats the sticker price



topgooner71 September 3rd 05 09:45 PM

Nick wrote:

On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 11:18:10 +0100, topgooner71
wrote:


No she said.. I want it free, as I have been such a good customer....
they offered a reconditioned one at £50 (is this guaranteed does anyone
know?)



I work in Customer Relations for a large company and I think your
parents are taking the ****. They wanted it at the price of a new
subscriber, they were told they could have it, then they said they
wanted it for free, Sky said they could have it for £50 and that's not
good enough.

Perhaps you can swap your parents for some that are more reasonable?

Nick..

Can't help but agree with you...


charlie




Alan Truelove Jr. September 3rd 05 09:52 PM

"Nick" wrote in message
...

I work in Customer Relations for a large company and I think your
parents are taking the ****. They wanted it at the price of a new
subscriber, they were told they could have it, then they said they
wanted it for free, Sky said they could have it for £50 and that's not
good enough.

Perhaps you can swap your parents for some that are more reasonable?


ROFL. ROFL. ROFL.



Colin Wilson September 3rd 05 10:55 PM

Are you this rude to everyone in your life? or just online?

No, he's like that with every freeloading ****.

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Colin Wilson September 3rd 05 10:57 PM

Can't help but agree with you...

LOL

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Jomtien September 4th 05 08:22 AM

topgooner71 wrote:

they offered a reconditioned one at £50 (is this guaranteed does anyone
know?)


Ignore the guarantee. UK law provides that all items sold should be
fit for the purpose and of merchantable quality. There are no time
limits on this though the length of time a thing can be expected to
work depends on its relative cost.

The other thing to remember is that the Sky+ contains just one moving
part that is likely to break down: the hard drive. A reconditioned
Sky+ will probably contain a new drive and if ever it goes wrong you
can fit another yourself for little cost.

Personally I would cancel and re-subscribe as a new subscriber, thus
getting the £99 new box offer.

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UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
BBC reception questions? ; http://www.astra2d.com/
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----
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No monies return'd. ;-)

Nigel September 4th 05 11:39 AM

topgooner71 typed:

Hi all.. hope someone can help.

My parents were over at mine the other day and say my sky+ box.. they
were hooked, and want one too. I presume you all know where this is
going now....

Now they have been with sky since 1991. always on the full package of
sports and movies.

My mother called them last night to ask if they could get a skyplus box
too. "only if you give us £259" was the response.

But we have been with you for all this time, and you are giving them to
new customers for £99.... surely as a loyal customer I should have one
for that too.....?? she said..

they said no till she said she wanted to cancel her subscription..then
they magically could match it at £99.


No she said.. I want it free, as I have been such a good customer....
they offered a reconditioned one at £50 (is this guaranteed does anyone
know?)

anyway my mother said no, cancel it, and has now given a months notice....

My parents WILL call back to reinstate it in a week or two as my old man
cant live without his football.


BUT are they likely to get a sky+ box for free if they do cancel their
subscription?

thanks.

Charlie


If you take a look at the Sky+ Forum on Digitial Spy;
http://forum.digitalspy.co.uk/board/...splay.php?f=35 this has been
discussed several times on what people have been offered and the "new" box
for £99 or a "recon" box for £50 seems to be the norm. No one has been
offered a free box.

Personally, I'm the same. I've been with Sky since 1991, always on the top
package, so I would automatically consider myself a loyal customer and would
expect something more than the usual 'as advertised price' .. but whilst I
know I'd have to jump through hoops and haggle a bit to get a reduction, I
wouldn't personally expect it for nothing. If I wanted it that badly I'd be
happy to pay £99 for it :)

--
Nige

--
Nige


RCE Defiant September 4th 05 01:01 PM

"Jomtien" wrote in message
...
topgooner71 wrote:

they offered a reconditioned one at £50 (is this guaranteed does anyone
know?)


Ignore the guarantee. UK law provides that all items sold should be
fit for the purpose and of merchantable quality. There are no time
limits on this though the length of time a thing can be expected to
work depends on its relative cost.

The other thing to remember is that the Sky+ contains just one moving
part that is likely to break down: the hard drive. A reconditioned
Sky+ will probably contain a new drive and if ever it goes wrong you
can fit another yourself for little cost.

Personally I would cancel and re-subscribe as a new subscriber, thus
getting the £99 new box offer.


That brings up a question. How long does someone have to wait after
cancelling Sky before they are treated as a new customer for offer purposes?

--
RCE Defiant



loz September 4th 05 08:33 PM


"Mike Henry" wrote in message
...

No. Your mother is very greedy! Hardware is not free


There are rumours that Sky+ boxes will indeed soon be free

Loz



zaax September 5th 05 02:13 AM

Colin Wilson wrote:

Are you this rude to everyone in your life? or just online?


No, he's like that with every freeloading ****.


ROLF so he can't bargain. Hint: The sticker price is the starting price

--
--
zaax

Jomtien September 5th 05 07:18 AM

RCE Defiant wrote:

Personally I would cancel and re-subscribe as a new subscriber, thus
getting the £99 new box offer.


That brings up a question. How long does someone have to wait after
cancelling Sky before they are treated as a new customer for offer purposes?


Forever. You have to use another name.

--
Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these.
The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/7rm2m
UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
BBC reception questions? ; http://www.astra2d.com/
Fed up with on-screen logos? : http://logofreetv.org/
----
Only the truth as I see it.
No monies return'd. ;-)

Jomtien September 5th 05 07:18 AM

wowfabgroovy wrote:

do they use normal ide hard disks?


Yes.


if so can you put them in a pc to
get the transport stream for the unencrypted channels? (bbc, etc).


No.


or
have lots of them to use like blank videos in the sky+ and just keep
swapping them round when they get full?


You could but I doubt that many would want the inconvenience.


i know the encrypted stuff
wouldn't work outside the sky+, but is there any time limit on how
long you can keep recordings? would they still play 10 years from now?


Surely not. Sky make changes to the software, encryption and viewing
cards from time to time and this often results in old recordings being
rendered useless.

--
Digibox problem? : A reboot solves 90% of these.
The Sky Digital FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/7rm2m
UK TV overseas: http://tinyurl.com/6p73
BBC reception questions? ; http://www.astra2d.com/
Fed up with on-screen logos? : http://logofreetv.org/
----
Only the truth as I see it.
No monies return'd. ;-)

spam September 8th 05 10:38 PM

On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 12:25:22 +0100, Mike Henry
wrote:

In , topgooner71
wrote:

they said no till she said she wanted to cancel her subscription..then
they magically could match it at £99.


That would have been for a brand new box then, from what you say below.
The £99 offer to new subscribers is for a reconditioned box. She was
right to threaten to cancel, but blew everything when she went through
with it.

No she said.. I want it free, as I have been such a good customer....
they offered a reconditioned one at £50 (is this guaranteed does anyone
know?)


For 3 months.

anyway my mother said no, cancel it, and has now given a months notice....

My parents WILL call back to reinstate it in a week or two as my old man
cant live without his football.

BUT are they likely to get a sky+ box for free if they do cancel their
subscription?


No. Your mother is very greedy! Hardware is not free, and both offers
(new for £99, 2nd hand for £50) are much better offers than those for
the new customers. So her loyalty was rewarded in the end, but that
still wasn't enough for her!

Your mother HAS already cancelled her subscription, from what you say,
and blown away the (very good) £99/£50 offers. Game over. She is now
back to square one (£259 for Sky+). All she can do is phone back and say
she has changed her mind and doesn't want to cancel - that would get the
viewing back, with the ordinary digibox.

I'd be astonished if the lower prices would be offered to her again,
because the only way to get them is to threaten to cancel. Second time
around they know she is crying wolf.

HTH



I would of taken it at £50, after all I paid £300 + £50
installation....but then that was on day 1 of launch ;-/
Box is still going strong....famous last words

Ric September 12th 05 08:11 PM

Jomtien wrote:
RCE Defiant wrote:


Personally I would cancel and re-subscribe as a new subscriber, thus
getting the £99 new box offer.


That brings up a question. How long does someone have to wait after
cancelling Sky before they are treated as a new customer for offer purposes?



Forever. You have to use another name.


assuming the OP's father is the name on the bill, the OP's mother should
phone sky for a new install. say you've just moved in if you must, or a
messy divorce is going through and you want it in your name.
when you get an install date, the OP's father should cancel.
time it right and you have about an hours' downtime: worked perfectly
for me and my partner.

ric


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