Reply from BBC BBC3 DOG
 

quote:

Dear *********

Thank you for your e-mail.

I understand that you find the new BBC THREE identifier distracting.

Viewers' feedback is important to us so we have taken on board the concerns
and will be reducing its intrusiveness immediately.

We use identifiers in common with other broadcasters because, as the number
of digital channels continues to grow, we believe it is important to ensure
that viewers can quickly identify when they are watching a BBC service.

The channel identifier is at the top left-hand part of the picture to avoid
clashing with subtitles or captions, and this area of the screen rarely
contains sensitive material which it might obscure or interfere.

Please be assured that your concerns have been registered for the attention
of our programme makers and senior management.

Finally, I have attached an invitation, from our Head of Customer Services,
asking you to participate in our customer survey. We would welcome your
views on our service.

Thank you again for taking the time to contact the BBC.

Regards

Terry Coyle
BBC Information

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Interesting bit:

"Viewers' feedback is important to us so we have taken on board the concerns
and will be reducing its intrusiveness immediately."

Gripper

In article , Gripper
writes

Interesting bit:

"Viewers' feedback is important to us so we have taken on board the concerns
and will be reducing its intrusiveness immediately."

They have definitely reduced the intensity of it (or increased its
transparency) since it first appeared.
--
Tim Mitchell

wowfabgroovy wrote:
"Gripper" went:


We use identifiers in common with other broadcasters because, as the number
of digital channels continues to grow, we believe it is important to ensure
that viewers can quickly identify when they are watching a BBC service.


i'm not sure which device doesn't tell you which channel you're
watching as soon as you change channels, but they could do that by
having the logo as part of the "press red for some crap" that pops up
periodically. at least you can get that to go away.

those scrolly arrow things that announce what's going to be on next
mid-programme are a lot more annoying than logos in the corner. those
completely destroy any atmosphere the programme may have built up.


Yeah, well spotted. Those scrolly things are also a bloody nuisance. I'm
rapidly coming to the conclusion that TV broadcasters are hell-bent on
treating the viewing public like idiots, come what may. There's
absolutely no need for the continued presence of on-screen dogs or
scrolling bars telling us what's on next. That's what the EPG is for.
The fact that these self same companies choose to ignore such a facility
speaks volumes in my book of just what they think of viewers - mindless
drones with attention of goldfish, methinks.

As I mentioned in a previous post, the more that things like logos and
banners intrude into programmes the less I shall watch them. Bloody
minded? Maybe, but I really have had just about enough of being treated
like a moron by these people. I'm quite capable of working-out what I'm
watching. A logo isn't going to do anything for me whilst the vast
majority of stuff broadcast nowadays is utter pap. Channel 5 got rid of
their dog and I can still manage to work-out that I'm watching
House/Stargate/The Shield/whatever without these visual intrusions, as
can other viewers given that C5's viewing figures continue to rise.

I was a member of the BBC's London regional advisory council some years
back. At every meeting I was asked to raise the issue of on-screen dogs
and suchlike then. If an 'insider' couldn't do anything, what chance has
Joe Public got? None, by my reckoning.


Clem


Clem

"Clem Dye" wrote in message
...
Yeah, well spotted. Those scrolly things are also a bloody nuisance.
I'm
rapidly coming to the conclusion that TV broadcasters are hell-bent on
treating the viewing public like idiots, come what may. There's
absolutely no need for the continued presence of on-screen dogs or
scrolling bars telling us what's on next. That's what the EPG is for.
The fact that these self same companies choose to ignore such a
facility
speaks volumes in my book of just what they think of viewers -
mindless
drones with attention of goldfish, methinks.

The EPG on Sky doesn't tell you what channel you are watching,
unfortunately (it always goes to channel 101), you have to press the 'i'
button.
Regards Mike.

Mike GW8IJT wrote:
"Clem Dye" wrote in message
...

Yeah, well spotted. Those scrolly things are also a bloody nuisance.

I'm

rapidly coming to the conclusion that TV broadcasters are hell-bent on
treating the viewing public like idiots, come what may. There's
absolutely no need for the continued presence of on-screen dogs or
scrolling bars telling us what's on next. That's what the EPG is for.
The fact that these self same companies choose to ignore such a

facility

speaks volumes in my book of just what they think of viewers -

mindless

drones with attention of goldfish, methinks.


The EPG on Sky doesn't tell you what channel you are watching,
unfortunately (it always goes to channel 101), you have to press the 'i'
button.
Regards Mike.

Yeah, but a quick press of the 'select' button brings-up the now & next
display, so you can work it out from that. I haven't seen my EPG default
to channel 101.


Clem

In article , Gripper
writes
Interesting bit:

"Viewers' feedback is important to us so we have taken on board the
concerns and will be reducing its intrusiveness immediately."

Unless such feedback is contrary to preconceived marketing notions.
--
Ian G8ILZ

"Gripper" wrote in message
...
quote:

Dear *********

Thank you for your e-mail.

I understand that you find the new BBC THREE identifier distracting.

Viewers' feedback is important to us so we have taken on board the
concerns and will be reducing its intrusiveness immediately.

We use identifiers in common with other broadcasters because, as the
number of digital channels continues to grow, we believe it is important
to ensure that viewers can quickly identify when they are watching a BBC
service.

The channel identifier is at the top left-hand part of the picture to
avoid...

.... me accidentally tuning to BBC Three for more than a second? Their
presentation suits the content.

Very noble of the Beeb to run this Early Warning System if you ask me, if
you look at the viewing figures it seems to work remarkably well.

wowfabgroovy wrote:

i would suspect part of the reasoning behind it would be to deter
people from making their own dvds rather than buying official
releases.

No it's not - they put it on BBC One if that were the case - much more
high quality content, all DOG free. The "better" BBC Three stuff goes
out on BBC One or Two DOG free eventually anyway.

like the way bbc7 announcers always talk over the opening
and closing parts of the programmes that are available commercially.

They do that to hide dated music or continuity, in order to make the
station sound more treny. They've said as much in their news letter or
on their message board.

Cheers,
David.

"wowfabgroovy" wrote in message
...
Clem Dye went:

a quick press of the 'select' button brings-up the now & next
display, so you can work it out from that.

if they wrote press select to see which channel you are watching in
the corner of the screen it would just confuse freeview users who
don't have a select button.



Some man on my telly keeps telling me to 'press red for more info' blah blah
blah.

Every time i do, the telly goes into standby :p

In article , James
writes

"wowfabgroovy" wrote in message
...
Clem Dye went:

a quick press of the 'select' button brings-up the now & next
display, so you can work it out from that.

if they wrote press select to see which channel you are watching in
the corner of the screen it would just confuse freeview users who
don't have a select button.



Some man on my telly keeps telling me to 'press red for more info' blah blah
blah.

Every time i do, the telly goes into standby :p

Then you are probably better informed.

--
Ian G8ILZ